Re: vmware on freebsd?
AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the Server line, but I could be wrong. Does it run under Linux emulation? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
- VM Server isn't supported either. I am not so sure it would be as simple as mapping the linux commands to bsd ones... the fact that it needs the *mod linux commands implies they use linux kernel modules... which I would say are not compatible with BSD. I'd love to be proven wrong :) 100% - and it even has its own proprietary Linux modules that the VMServer loads when starting up (virtual nics, hubs / switches, etc). I just thought that linux modules would be able to operate under linux-emu in BSD. Guess I was wrong on that one :-) But yeah, VMWare Workstation is not really something I'd use in production. VMWare Server only Linux / Windows / etc, and then we have the enterprise class ESX Server, which is a OS in itself ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:53:39 +0200 Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone commented, that its impossible to run VMWare on FreeBSD as a host, > but thats wrong. Sorry, should have been more precise: - latest versions of VMWare Workstation (4.5 + ) are not supported (and most probably dont work) under FBSD as host. I'll have to try my 4.5 key in version 3 ;).. oh,hang on, mine is for a Windows Vmware Workstation. dont you just *love* it? Yes, qemu is much slower than VMware. - VM Server isn't supported either. I am not so sure it would be as simple as mapping the linux commands to bsd ones... the fact that it needs the *mod linux commands implies they use linux kernel modules... which I would say are not compatible with BSD. I'd love to be proven wrong :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) > Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD 6.0? I'm looking >> for comments from people who may have done this. > > I may be completelly off the mark here...but I think the VMWare Server is more > like XEN rather than Qemu ( which is more VMWare workstation). > > AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their > latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the > Server line, but I could be wrong. > > Have you looked into Xen instead? > > Beto well I'm trying vmware3 at the moment using 6.1 as host; the port seems to build fine, and the wizard now runs to build a setup. I need to get a key in order to actually run a machine, but I think overall it will eventually run XP. Had to change my linux compatibility etc etc. The difficulty with Xen at present is that it won't run XP/Win2k etc etc which vmware will. Xen will eventually get there now that they've got agreements with M$. The real problem with these emulations is how far they are from the real hardware. USB is still "new" so I don't expect to get my usb dvbt working even if a virtual XP runs fine. I know the qemu can do some kind of device control under linux, but I suspect it's harder under freeBSD. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Peter > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD 6.0? I'm looking > for comments from people who may have done this. Yes. At out office we are running VMWare3 as a host on FreeBSD 6.1 running Windows XP. It runs perfect. During setup I testet other solutions qemu etc. but found that VMWare out-speeds them all. VMWare is very fast, so fast that you almost wont notice its virtual. Someone commented, that its impossible to run VMWare on FreeBSD as a host, but thats wrong. I highly recommend VMWare3 from ports, eventhough its old. > Peter > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the Server line, but I could be wrong. Quest Yes, Host No. VMServer does support Linux however. The problem is that they have build the server to depend solely on how linux operates. Hard coded commands, specifics about modules (i.e. lsmod, depmod, etc). If they wern't so full of fuzz about the installation, chances are the VMServer would run under linux-emu on BSD. But alas, at the moment BSD lacks the commands that VMServer requires. As far as Linux goes, it runs on just about anything Redhat, SuSe, Slackware, etc. -- Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD 6.0? I'm looking > for comments from people who may have done this. I may be completelly off the mark here...but I think the VMWare Server is more like XEN rather than Qemu ( which is more VMWare workstation). AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the Server line, but I could be wrong. Have you looked into Xen instead? Beto ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 04:27:07AM -0400, Peter wrote: > I am not attached to any one product. I would prefer to go the OSS > route. What limitations does qemu have? Can you connect to the guest > machines remotely? How can you say it is better than vmware if you > have never used it? Thanks for any comments you may have. qemu has -d option which tells to redirect console to vnc. So you can connect remotely via vnc. But I think that QEMU is good for 1 or 2 virtual machines .. no more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
El día Tuesday, August 15, 2006 a las 04:27:07AM -0400, Peter escribió: > I am not attached to any one product. I would prefer to go the OSS > route. What limitations does qemu have? Can you connect to the guest > machines remotely? How can you say it is better than vmware if you > have never used it? Thanks for any comments you may have. > > Peter I run Qemu for a long time in my FreeBSD 6.0-REL laptop to fire up, if I need to do, a XP box or to give talks about the installation of a FreeBSD just doing this in a Qemu virtual machine. Of course you can connect from the underlaying host system or from anywhere else, for example with SSH, to the guest system in Qemu, properly routing setup must done of course before. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
--- Girish Venkatachalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD > > 6.0? I'm looking > > for comments from people who may have done this. > Sorry if I am side tracking but why bother about > vmware when qemu can do a much better job? > > Please feel free to flame me if vmware can do > something that qemu cannot since I have never used > vmware... > > regards, > Girish I am not attached to any one product. I would prefer to go the OSS route. What limitations does qemu have? Can you connect to the guest machines remotely? How can you say it is better than vmware if you have never used it? Thanks for any comments you may have. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
--- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD > 6.0? I'm looking > for comments from people who may have done this. Sorry if I am side tracking but why bother about vmware when qemu can do a much better job? Please feel free to flame me if vmware can do something that qemu cannot since I have never used vmware... regards, Girish > > Peter > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
