Re: x-forwarding problem - no window contents

2004-06-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 06:06:24PM -0600, Simon Timms wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 08:59:31AM -0600, Simon Timms wrote:
> >
> > > Oooh, you know I think I'm just doing 'ssh' and expecting it to work or
> > > give me a huge obvious error.  I have enabled ForwardX11 in
> > > /etc/ssh/ssh_conf on the desktop.  You're probably right that it is a
> > > question of '-X' or '-Y'.  I shall have to try this out when I get home
> > > tonight.  What is the difference between trusted and untrusted X11
> > > forwarding?
> >
> > Untrusted is safer when you don't trust the security of the machine
> > you're connecting to, but it doesn't work for a lot of X applications.
> 
> You were right a -Y did it.  I'm sure i've done this with just -X before.
> Oh well.  Thanks a bunch.

Yeah, ssh only sprouted a -Y recently.

Kris


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Re: x-forwarding problem - no window contents

2004-06-04 Thread Simon Timms
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 08:59:31AM -0600, Simon Timms wrote:
>
> > Oooh, you know I think I'm just doing 'ssh' and expecting it to work or
> > give me a huge obvious error.  I have enabled ForwardX11 in
> > /etc/ssh/ssh_conf on the desktop.  You're probably right that it is a
> > question of '-X' or '-Y'.  I shall have to try this out when I get home
> > tonight.  What is the difference between trusted and untrusted X11
> > forwarding?
>
> Untrusted is safer when you don't trust the security of the machine
> you're connecting to, but it doesn't work for a lot of X applications.

You were right a -Y did it.  I'm sure i've done this with just -X before.
Oh well.  Thanks a bunch.
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Re: x-forwarding problem - no window contents

2004-06-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 08:59:31AM -0600, Simon Timms wrote:

> Oooh, you know I think I'm just doing 'ssh' and expecting it to work or
> give me a huge obvious error.  I have enabled ForwardX11 in
> /etc/ssh/ssh_conf on the desktop.  You're probably right that it is a
> question of '-X' or '-Y'.  I shall have to try this out when I get home
> tonight.  What is the difference between trusted and untrusted X11
> forwarding?

Untrusted is safer when you don't trust the security of the machine
you're connecting to, but it doesn't work for a lot of X applications.

Kris


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Re: x-forwarding problem - no window contents

2004-06-04 Thread Simon Timms
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 08:10:08AM -0600, Simon Timms wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I.m having a problem with x-forwarding.  I have looked through past
> > questions but I haven.t seen anything on this particular topic.  I have
> > two FreeBSD 5.2_1 machines at home, one of which I run headless.  Usually
> > I manage the headless machine from windows using x-forwarding and either
> > exceed or x-win and putty.  Recently I decided that I hate windows so much
> > that it was time to change fulltime to FreeBSD on my desktop however a
> > problem arises.  When I forward anything from the server to my desktop
> > machine I don't get the contents of any window.  The window frame appears
> > along with the title and is sized correctly but there is nothing inside
> > the frame.
> >
> > I have tried using several different window managers and different users
> > in the hopes it was some sort of setting I had accidentally triggered
> > but to no avail.  Has anybody seen this before and how do I fix it?
> > I assume that it is a problem on the desktop machine since forwarding
> > does work between the server and other boxes.
>
> How are you doing the "X Forwarding"?  Exporting DISPLAY directly?
> Tunneling over SSH with "ssh -X" or "ssh -Y" (you probably want the
> latter)?

Oooh, you know I think I'm just doing 'ssh' and expecting it to work or
give me a huge obvious error.  I have enabled ForwardX11 in
/etc/ssh/ssh_conf on the desktop.  You're probably right that it is a
question of '-X' or '-Y'.  I shall have to try this out when I get home
tonight.  What is the difference between trusted and untrusted X11
forwarding?

> Kris
>

Thanks for your insight, Kris.
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Re: x-forwarding problem - no window contents

2004-06-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 08:10:08AM -0600, Simon Timms wrote:
> Hi,
> I.m having a problem with x-forwarding.  I have looked through past
> questions but I haven.t seen anything on this particular topic.  I have
> two FreeBSD 5.2_1 machines at home, one of which I run headless.  Usually
> I manage the headless machine from windows using x-forwarding and either
> exceed or x-win and putty.  Recently I decided that I hate windows so much
> that it was time to change fulltime to FreeBSD on my desktop however a
> problem arises.  When I forward anything from the server to my desktop
> machine I don't get the contents of any window.  The window frame appears
> along with the title and is sized correctly but there is nothing inside
> the frame.
> 
> I have tried using several different window managers and different users
> in the hopes it was some sort of setting I had accidentally triggered
> but to no avail.  Has anybody seen this before and how do I fix it?
> I assume that it is a problem on the desktop machine since forwarding
> does work between the server and other boxes.

How are you doing the "X Forwarding"?  Exporting DISPLAY directly?
Tunneling over SSH with "ssh -X" or "ssh -Y" (you probably want the
latter)?

Kris


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Re: x-forwarding problem - no window contents

2004-06-04 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jun 4, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Simon Timms wrote:
I have tried using several different window managers and different 
users
in the hopes it was some sort of setting I had accidentally triggered
but to no avail.  Has anybody seen this before and how do I fix it?
I assume that it is a problem on the desktop machine since forwarding
does work between the server and other boxes.
Does compression (-C) on ssh have any effect?  I've noticed some 
programs run very slow without compression (and even then, 
still run with a bit of lag...like Pan... :-(

Does it work better if you connect to a ssh-forwarded VNC session?
Anything showing up in logs for ssh?
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