Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-30 Thread David Kelly


On Mar 30, 2006, at 5:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I tried with OpenBSD 3.8 and got similar performance to FreeBSD.
I might try NetBSD in the weekend, someone mentioned that, and it's  
probably

a good idea.


I suggested earlier that you verify how fast your "disk" interface  
runs. Am guessing its a CF card. Something as simple as "dd  
if=testfile of=/dev/null". Not all CF cards read/write as fast as  
others.


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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-30 Thread johnryan_852
Thanks for all the excellent replies to this question.
Dinesh's answer looks like exactly what I'm experiencing.
Unfortunately I can't use FreeBSD 4, because I don't think FASTIPSEC with
the HiFn card is supported there.
I tried with OpenBSD 3.8 and got similar performance to FreeBSD.
I might try NetBSD in the weekend, someone mentioned that, and it's probably
a good idea.
Oh well, at the moment we've only got a 2Mbit link anyway, so they should
suffice for a couple of years.

Regards
John Ryan


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>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:03:43 +0800
>From: Dinesh Nair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Mike Tancsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Soekris Net4801 performance
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>On 03/30/06 09:28 Mike Tancsa said the following:
>> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:19:25 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
>> you wrote:
>>>ftp put is around 3Mbytes/sec and ftp get is around 2Mbytes/sec
>>>ifconfig says:
>
>> They are not the fastest around, but it depends what you want to do
>> with them. On an older 4501, I get about 7Mb.  You should be able to
>> get that at least.
>
>m0n0wall, a freebsd based router/firewall project is built for both the

>soekris net45xx and net48xx boxes. m0n0wall 1.2 is based on freebsd 4.x
and
>
>m0n0wall 1.3 (which i'm currently maintaining) is based on freebsd 6.x.

>we've seen clear degradation of network throughput between m0n0 1.2 and

>1.3. we usually use iperf for throughput testing with the m0n0wall sitting
>
>in between. search the m0n0wall lists for past throughput comparisons.
>
>[1] http://m0n0.ch/wall/
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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread Dinesh Nair



On 03/30/06 09:28 Mike Tancsa said the following:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:19:25 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:

ftp put is around 3Mbytes/sec and ftp get is around 2Mbytes/sec
ifconfig says:



They are not the fastest around, but it depends what you want to do
with them. On an older 4501, I get about 7Mb.  You should be able to
get that at least.


m0n0wall, a freebsd based router/firewall project is built for both the 
soekris net45xx and net48xx boxes. m0n0wall 1.2 is based on freebsd 4.x and 
m0n0wall 1.3 (which i'm currently maintaining) is based on freebsd 6.x. 
we've seen clear degradation of network throughput between m0n0 1.2 and 
1.3. we usually use iperf for throughput testing with the m0n0wall sitting 
in between. search the m0n0wall lists for past throughput comparisons.


[1] http://m0n0.ch/wall/

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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread Mike Tancsa
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:19:25 +0200, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:

>Hi, I've just bought 2 soekris net4801-60 boxes and am having trouble getting
>them to perform under FreeBSD.
>
>They are on a 100Mbit network and the network works fine for other machines
>- FreeBSD, Linux and Windows.
>
>I've tried a custom kernel running FreeBSD 6.1 PRELEASE and a GENERIC kernel
>running FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE.
>Custom kernel has
>options CPU_GEODE 
>
>ftp put is around 3Mbytes/sec and ftp get is around 2Mbytes/sec
>ifconfig says:
>sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
>options=8
>inet 172.20.36.56 netmask 0xf800 broadcast 172.20.39.255
>inet6 fe80::200:24ff:fec5:cf48%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
>ether 00:00:24:c5:cf:48
>media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
>status: active
>
>Has anyone got any experience with these machines and any advice?


They are not the fastest around, but it depends what you want to do
with them. On an older 4501, I get about 7Mb.  You should be able to
get that at least.

[vpn1]% fetch -o /dev/null http://lava.sentex.ca/wifi.mpg
/dev/null  53% of   84 MB  769
kBps 00m52s^C
fetch: transfer interrupted

[vpn1]%

Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Enhanced Am486DX4/Am5x86 Write-Back (486-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x494  Stepping = 4
  Features=0x1
real memory  = 67108864 (64 MB)
avail memory = 60416000 (57 MB)
npx0: [FAST]
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
cpu0 on motherboard
sysctl machdep.i8254_freq=1189161 returns 0

[vpn1]% uname -a
FreeBSD vpn1.sentex.ca 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Sun
Mar 12 16:42:17 EST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/nanobsd.full/usr/src/sys/nano
i386
[vpn1]%

---Mike

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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread David Kelly


On Mar 29, 2006, at 9:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


ftp put is around 3Mbytes/sec and ftp get is around 2Mbytes/sec
ifconfig says:
sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=8
inet 172.20.36.56 netmask 0xf800 broadcast 172.20.39.255
inet6 fe80::200:24ff:fec5:cf48%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ether 00:00:24:c5:cf:48
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active

Has anyone got any experience with these machines and any advice?


If you are running off CF card(s) then 2 to 3 MB/sec is about as fast  
as one can read/write. Some CF cards are faster than others.


Configure it as a router/bridge and see how fast you can ftp thru it,  
rather than with the Soekris as a destination.


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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread Peter

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi, I've just bought 2 soekris net4801-60 boxes and am having trouble
> getting
> them to perform under FreeBSD.
> 
> They are on a 100Mbit network and the network works fine for other
> machines
> - FreeBSD, Linux and Windows.
> 
> I've tried a custom kernel running FreeBSD 6.1 PRELEASE and a GENERIC
> kernel
> running FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE.
> Custom kernel has
> options CPU_GEODE 
> 
> ftp put is around 3Mbytes/sec and ftp get is around 2Mbytes/sec
> ifconfig says:
> sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> options=8
> inet 172.20.36.56 netmask 0xf800 broadcast 172.20.39.255
> inet6 fe80::200:24ff:fec5:cf48%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> ether 00:00:24:c5:cf:48
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
> status: active
> 
> Has anyone got any experience with these machines and any advice?

Yes.  I have two 4801 units and they work very well with OpenBSD 3.7
and 3.8.

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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread wc_fbsd

At 10:19 AM 3/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I've just bought 2 soekris net4801-60 boxes and am having 
trouble getting them to perform under FreeBSD.  They are on a 
100Mbit network and the network works fine for other machines


I've had trouble in the past with NICs using the "Ethernet 
autoselect" option.  Check "man sis" to see how to set it manually, 
and try disabling full-duplex.  Might also try ftp-ing via localhost, 
if that's fast, there's a good chance the problem is in the sis0 
adapter and not the IP stack or OS.


I'm curious to try to Soekris boxes myself;  let us know what you 
figure out,  please.


   -Wayne

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Re: Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, I've just bought 2 soekris net4801-60 boxes and am having trouble getting
> them to perform under FreeBSD.
[ ... ]
> Has anyone got any experience with these machines and any advice?

I've got one or two of the older Soekris 4501's, running NetBSD 2.0 via 128MB
CF.  They booted FreeBSD 4 OK, though, and you might want to retest using 4.11
rather than 6.0 and see whether it does better for you.

Otherwise, give NetBSD a spin, it's targetted more for that type of appliance
role and is going to be tuned more reasonably for the hardware you've got.

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Soekris Net4801 performance

2006-03-29 Thread johnryan_852
Hi, I've just bought 2 soekris net4801-60 boxes and am having trouble getting
them to perform under FreeBSD.

They are on a 100Mbit network and the network works fine for other machines
- FreeBSD, Linux and Windows.

I've tried a custom kernel running FreeBSD 6.1 PRELEASE and a GENERIC kernel
running FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE.
Custom kernel has
options CPU_GEODE 

ftp put is around 3Mbytes/sec and ftp get is around 2Mbytes/sec
ifconfig says:
sis0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=8
inet 172.20.36.56 netmask 0xf800 broadcast 172.20.39.255
inet6 fe80::200:24ff:fec5:cf48%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
ether 00:00:24:c5:cf:48
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active

Has anyone got any experience with these machines and any advice?

Thanks in advance
John Ryan



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