Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-26 Thread anubis
SNIP --DUN DUNH-- Dude, that is the worst sound for an admin to hear. Never heard it while working on any of my bsd boxes. Heard it twice this weekend. Upgrading a windas 2000 sbs to windas 2003 sbs box. Then I went Aiee. I like the fact that freebsd just works with no problems or

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-26 Thread anubis
I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux? Honest question. It makes you smarter. I learnt more about computing and networking setting up freebsd boxes for 1 month than years of being a gui jockey for the other systems, including linux. Now the tables have been turned. I am in

RE: Why BSD?

2004-01-26 Thread Philip Payne
This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux? My personal experience. 4 years ago I

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-25 Thread Jason M. Leonard
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Jason M. Leonard wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Mark
what about security between the two ? which if either is better secure ? easier to secure ? more likely to be cracked ? lets say for newbies mostly. thanks all - Original Message - From: Puna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Why

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner
Am Samstag, 24. Januar 2004 09:26 schrieb Mark: what about security between the two ? There are ways for both to harden your system. which if either is better secure ? In which cases? easier to secure ? It's a fact of patches and a fact of your ability to use 'vi' ;) more likely to be

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 23 January 2004 10:40 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than

RE: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread yo _
This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux? Honest question. Thanks, Jeff why not? -rian

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Robert Huff
Mark writes: what about security between the two ? which if either is better secure ? easier to secure ? more likely to be cracked ? lets say for newbies mostly. There's an old saying: The least safe part of any car is the nut behind the wheel.. Both Linux and *BSD are

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux? Honest question. For

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread John Adams
Hi, folks, All these very intelligent, well-reasoned, sometimes philosophical answers--mine is nothing like that. A company for which I want to work uses FreeBSD extensively, so I'm learning something about it at home. That simple, John A see me fulminate at

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Saturday 24 January 2004 03:26 pm, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Occasion 2.) Got sick of Win 98 SE on my wife's computer, so I decided to give Linux a second chance. This time I WANTED to go with Red Hat, since it's arguably the most popular Linux distro. However, one look at their

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Micheal Patterson
- Original Message - From: Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Why BSD? Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 23 January 2004 11:40 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux?

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Jason M. Leonard
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Lucas Holt
BSD is arguably more popular. Mac OS X uses BSD code for portions of the kernel and the userland. 10.3 uses FreeBSD 5.0 code, and previous releases used FreeBSD 3.2 or NetBSD code. SInce Apple is the number one supplier of *NIX, i'd say that is a good reason. Apple has shipped more OS X

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-24 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Jason M. Leonard wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Jesse Guardiani wrote: Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian

Why BSD?

2004-01-23 Thread Jeff Elkins
This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD rather than Linux? Honest question. Thanks, Jeff

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-23 Thread Gautam Gopalakrishnan
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:40:39PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-23 Thread Chris
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 23 January 2004 10:40 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-23 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Chris wrote: On Friday 23 January 2004 10:40 pm, Jeff Elkins wrote: This is not a troll. I've installed FreeBSD 5.2 on a spare SCSI drive and am compiling kernels, updating ports, etc,etc. Thus far, other than some minor hassles, it's equivilent to my Debian sid. I have to ask: Why FreeBSD

Re: Why BSD?

2004-01-23 Thread Puna
It's also about quality of the underlying work. On average, Linux base code runs 10% faster under FreeBSD. Linux works toward patches for what everyone wants because it competes for the Windows market share. FreeBSD works toward solutions because it competes with no one. Jonathan T. Sage