Re: pIII coppermine?

2008-01-02 Thread Chris Maness

Erik Trulsson wrote:

On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:11:42PM -0500, Rob wrote:
  

Chris Maness wrote:

I have an ABIT VP6 dual socket that I want to use as my FreeBSD server.  I 
only have one CPU installed, and I was told that if I were to add another 
CPU that the serial numbers of the CPU had to be sequential.  Is this 
true?  I see these processors on e-bay for $7 it would be nice to 
  

I assume you mean "BP6".



Why?  The Abit BP6 and Abit VP6 both exist, and are two different
motherboards, with the VP6 being newer and supporting faster CPUs.

I see no reason to not believe he did mean "VP6". 




  
 It's best that they be the same "stepping" 
number;  this is like an engineering revision level in Intelese. Usually 
looks like "SLQ7" or similar.  But it wasn't required on those boards.  Of 
course Intel never sanctioned Dual Celerons, which is what made it so cool 
:)  I still have one of those with very low hours that I keep thinking I 
should dust off and recommission for sumpthin'.


I hope you're not using this machine for any critical applications.  All 
the ABIT boards of that day (circa 1999) had really low quality 
electrolytic capacitors in the voltage regulators that are notorious for 
failing.  And the BP6 had one cap that got a totally wrong value installed 
on the board.  Google BP6 capacitors and you'll find lots. Also www.BP6.com 
 Have fun.



Both the BP6 and VP6 have a reputation for bad capacitors (the VP6 even more
so than the BP6.)



  
I built the machine in 2000 and used it with no problems all the way up 
to 2005.  I lucked out.  It just so happens they have the same 
"stepping" number, so they should work perfect together.  I am going to 
be using it as a file server/backup server.  If it runs stable, I might 
make it my main server, because with both processors running it will be 
better than  the other oldie I have as my main server.  I used the VP6 
as my main desktop for 5 years before Photoshop got too bloated to run 
fast enough for my photography business.  If something was going to give 
as far as the caps on the board, would they still be a high risk if the 
board has been very reliable thus far?


I just use the main server to host a couple of small traffic web sites 
from my house.  It has been running fine for almost 8 years, and I only 
recently added a hard drive as a precaution.


Thanks,

--
Chris Maness
(909) 223-9179
http://www.chrismaness.com

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Re: pIII coppermine?

2008-01-02 Thread Rob

Erik Trulsson wrote:

I assume you mean "BP6".


Why?  The Abit BP6 and Abit VP6 both exist, and are two different
motherboards, with the VP6 being newer and supporting faster CPUs.
I see no reason to not believe he did mean "VP6". 


Yes, thanks, I stand corrected.  I googled and found the VP6.  Hadn't 
heard of that one.  By about that time (2001) I'd come full circle and 
was disgusted with ABIT's products, and was building AMD systems anyway.


  -Rob

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Re: pIII coppermine?

2008-01-02 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:11:42PM -0500, Rob wrote:
> Chris Maness wrote:
>> I have an ABIT VP6 dual socket that I want to use as my FreeBSD server.  I 
>> only have one CPU installed, and I was told that if I were to add another 
>> CPU that the serial numbers of the CPU had to be sequential.  Is this 
>> true?  I see these processors on e-bay for $7 it would be nice to 
> 
> I assume you mean "BP6".

Why?  The Abit BP6 and Abit VP6 both exist, and are two different
motherboards, with the VP6 being newer and supporting faster CPUs.

I see no reason to not believe he did mean "VP6". 



>  It's best that they be the same "stepping" 
> number;  this is like an engineering revision level in Intelese. Usually 
> looks like "SLQ7" or similar.  But it wasn't required on those boards.  Of 
> course Intel never sanctioned Dual Celerons, which is what made it so cool 
> :)  I still have one of those with very low hours that I keep thinking I 
> should dust off and recommission for sumpthin'.
> 
> I hope you're not using this machine for any critical applications.  All 
> the ABIT boards of that day (circa 1999) had really low quality 
> electrolytic capacitors in the voltage regulators that are notorious for 
> failing.  And the BP6 had one cap that got a totally wrong value installed 
> on the board.  Google BP6 capacitors and you'll find lots. Also www.BP6.com 
>  Have fun.

Both the BP6 and VP6 have a reputation for bad capacitors (the VP6 even more
so than the BP6.)



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Re: pIII coppermine?

2008-01-02 Thread Rob

Chris Maness wrote:
I have an ABIT VP6 dual socket that I want to use as my FreeBSD server.  
I only have one CPU installed, and I was told that if I were to add 
another CPU that the serial numbers of the CPU had to be sequential.  Is 
this true?  I see these processors on e-bay for $7 it would be nice to 


I assume you mean "BP6".  It's best that they be the same "stepping" 
number;  this is like an engineering revision level in Intelese. 
Usually looks like "SLQ7" or similar.  But it wasn't required on those 
boards.  Of course Intel never sanctioned Dual Celerons, which is what 
made it so cool :)  I still have one of those with very low hours that I 
keep thinking I should dust off and recommission for sumpthin'.


I hope you're not using this machine for any critical applications.  All 
the ABIT boards of that day (circa 1999) had really low quality 
electrolytic capacitors in the voltage regulators that are notorious for 
failing.  And the BP6 had one cap that got a totally wrong value 
installed on the board.  Google BP6 capacitors and you'll find lots. 
Also www.BP6.com  Have fun.


  -Rob  [don't cc me; this is a bit-bucket address]


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Re: pIII coppermine?

2008-01-02 Thread LtCdData
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 02:20, Chris Maness wrote:
I have an ABIT VP6 dual socket that I want to use as my FreeBSD server.
I only have one CPU installed, and I was told that if I were to add
another CPU that the serial numbers of the CPU had to be sequential.  Is
this true?  I see these processors on e-bay for $7 it would be nice to
be able to boost the power of this box.

Chris Maness
I have 2 PIII coppermine dual cpu boxes here, neither have sequential numbered 
cpus ... dont worry about it  

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Re: pIII coppermine?

2008-01-01 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Chris Maness wrote:
I have an ABIT VP6 dual socket that I want to use as my FreeBSD server.  
I only have one CPU installed, and I was told that if I were to add 
another CPU that the serial numbers of the CPU had to be sequential.  Is 
this true?  I see these processors on e-bay for $7 it would be nice to 
be able to boost the power of this box.


this is nonsense.

What would be helpful is the same stepping number.

As the price is low, jsut go for it.

Older CPUs needed that both CPU have had to be of the same stepping. 
Yours is new enough to work with any CPU of the same type.


Just make sure that this is the case. Same cache size, same clock rate ...

Erich
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pIII coppermine?

2008-01-01 Thread Chris Maness
I have an ABIT VP6 dual socket that I want to use as my FreeBSD server.  
I only have one CPU installed, and I was told that if I were to add 
another CPU that the serial numbers of the CPU had to be sequential.  Is 
this true?  I see these processors on e-bay for $7 it would be nice to 
be able to boost the power of this box.


Chris Maness
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