Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:34:51 +0700, kyanh  wrote:
> I just use the default setting from Pidgin. I don't know what is
> the kind of sound though I guess that's *.wav.

For WAV files, the play command from the port audio/sox is fine.
I think it's a bit "heavy" to employ mplayer for this simple job.



> When I press "Browse" in Pidgin Configuration Page for Sound I
> don't get the right place of default sound file. Pidgin may use
> files from GTK collection.

If you want to find this out, just check the configuration files
of Pidgin and grep for "wav" or "mp3", you'll find where the files
come from.



> When I use Arch Linux I can use "play %s" but "play" isnot installed
> as default on FreeBSD.

Of course not, it doesn't belong to the operating system. :-)
You can simply "pkg_add -r sox" to get this program.



> I install `mpg123` but I still get small sound.

The sound volume doesn't depend on the player. If the files
are "weak", it may be useful to increase their audio level.



> I see. I often use vol == 90 and pcm == 75.

And you're sure that the audio isn't loud enough everywhere?
Maybe the output level of your sound card - or nowadays a
built-in sound card emulation through the CPU :-) - hasn't
enough power for your speakers. (I don't have such trouble,
I use a system with a separate amplifier.)



> > Do other applications (music and movie player, games etc.) play
> > louder sounds?
> > 
> 
> The music and others sounds are normal.

So it really seems to be that

a) Pidgin uses strange mixer settings on its own

b) the files that Pidgin plays are too "weak" in
   terms of audio level.


> Thank you. I've learned from your message that I should use
> "louder" for sound instead of "bigger". Still find "smaller"
> sound :D

This is because the price of the mainboard is less expensive
while the CPU temperature is hot. :-)



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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-11 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:56:17 +0700, kyanh  wrote:
>> Second, the sound files you are using might simply be a bit low on
>> the volume side.  You may want to load them into something like
>> audacity to increase their loudness.
>
> The problem is that I use Pidgin's default sound files. I cannot
> locate those files (pkg_info -L pidgin).

IIRC, pidgin uses the sound files from libpurple:

  $ pkg_info -L libpurple-2\* | fgrep /sounds/
  /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
  /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/login.wav
  /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/logout.wav
  /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/receive.wav
  /usr/local/share/sounds/purple/send.wav
  $

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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread kyanh
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:07:04 -0600
Geoff Fritz  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:51:35PM +0700, kyanh wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring
> > Pidgin, I use
> > mplayer %s
> > to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as
> > pidgin's volume is small (while the system mixer is almost
> > 100:100). Is there anyway to have a bigger sound in Pidgin?
> > 
> > Thank you!
> 
> I use the same method you do.  Just a tip: since you use mplayer,
> as opposed to the default gstreamer, you can clear a *lot* of cruft
> from your system by reconfiguring the pidgin port and turning off
> the gstreamer option, re-installing pidgin, then uninstalling the
> gstreamer stuff.  I find that the ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves port is
> execllent for such cleaning.
> 

I wil try. Knowing `pkg_cutleaves` is a bonus :P

> Onto your question.  I have two thoughts.
> 
> First, make sure that /usr/sbin/mixer shows "vol" and "pcm" both at
> a a reasonable level.  I find that 60:60 is usually sufficient for
> me, whether I used headphones or speakers.
> 

I did this before configuring Pidgin.

> Second, the sound files you are using might simply be a bit low on
> the volume side.  You may want to load them into something like
> audacity to increase their loudness.
> 

The problem is that I use Pidgin's default sound files. I cannot locate those 
files (pkg_info -L pidgin).

> 
> > PS: sorry for my terrible English :)
> 
> No apologies needed.  Your written English is excellent!

Thank you for your helps and your kind words :)

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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread kyanh
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:35:04 +0200
Polytropon  wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:35 +0700, kyanh  wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring
> > Pidgin, I use mplayer %s
> > to make Pidgin play stuff.
> 
> First, maybe mplayer is a bit "heavy stuff" for notification sounds.
> What are these files? If they are *.wav, use "play %s" command, and
> if they are *.mp3, use "madplay %s" or "mpg123 %s", as well as
> "ogg123 %s" for *.ogg files. Check out the manpages for these
> programs if you think you need further options.
> 

I just use the default setting from Pidgin. I don't know what is the kind of 
sound though I guess that's *.wav. When I press "Browse" in Pidgin 
Configuration Page for Sound I don't get the right place of default sound file. 
Pidgin may use files from GTK collection.

When I use Arch Linux I can use "play %s" but "play" isnot installed as default 
on FreeBSD. I install `mpg123` but I still get small sound.

> 
> 
> > But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume is small (while
> > the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a
> > bigger sound in Pidgin?
> 
> Check the other volumes as well. PCM should be 100:100, too.
> If vol == 100:100 and pcm == 10:10, it will be very silent. :-)
> 

I see. I often use vol == 90 and pcm == 75.

> Do other applications (music and movie player, games etc.) play
> louder sounds?
> 

The music and others sounds are normal.

> 
> 
> > PS: sorry for my terrible English :)
> 
> I'm not sure mine is better, don't mind. The guys on that list have
> a lot of translational phantasy. :-)

Thank you. I've learned from your message that I should use "louder" for sound 
instead of "bigger". Still find "smaller" sound :D


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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread kyanh
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:06:39 -0500 (CDT)
Wes Morgan  wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, kyanh wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring
> > Pidgin, I use mplayer %s
> > to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as
> > pidgin's volume is small (while the system mixer is almost
> > 100:100). Is there anyway to have a bigger sound in Pidgin?
> >
> > Thank you!
> 
> I would recommend installing the audio/normalize port, and using 
> that to increase the volume of the sound files. If you don't want
> to alter the audio files, try using this as your sound command:
> 
> mplayer -af volume=20 %s

Thank you. I didn't read carefully mplayer's man page.

When I use `mplayer -af volume=n` within `n > 10`, I get so much noises. The 
acceptable value is 9 or 10. 

The sound files are taken from default installation of Pidgin, and I shouldnot 
ormalize them :) -- unless I want some lourder notifications.

Regards,

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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread Wes Morgan

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, kyanh wrote:


Hello all,

I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I use
mplayer %s
to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume 
is small (while the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a 
bigger sound in Pidgin?

Thank you!


I would recommend installing the audio/normalize port, and using 
that to increase the volume of the sound files. If you don't want to alter 
the audio files, try using this as your sound command:


mplayer -af volume=20 %s
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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread Geoff Fritz
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:51:35PM +0700, kyanh wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I
>  use
>   mplayer %s
> to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's
> volume is small (while the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway
> to have a bigger sound in Pidgin?
> 
> Thank you!

I use the same method you do.  Just a tip: since you use mplayer, as opposed to
the default gstreamer, you can clear a *lot* of cruft from your system by
reconfiguring the pidgin port and turning off the gstreamer option,
re-installing pidgin, then uninstalling the gstreamer stuff.  I find that
the ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves port is execllent for such cleaning.

Onto your question.  I have two thoughts.

First, make sure that /usr/sbin/mixer shows "vol" and "pcm" both at a
a reasonable level.  I find that 60:60 is usually sufficient for me, whether
I used headphones or speakers.

Second, the sound files you are using might simply be a bit low on the
volume side.  You may want to load them into something like audacity to
increase their loudness.

-- Geoff

> PS: sorry for my terrible English :)

No apologies needed.  Your written English is excellent!
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Re: sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:51:35 +0700, kyanh  wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I use
>   mplayer %s
> to make Pidgin play stuff.

First, maybe mplayer is a bit "heavy stuff" for notification sounds.
What are these files? If they are *.wav, use "play %s" command, and if
they are *.mp3, use "madplay %s" or "mpg123 %s", as well as "ogg123 %s"
for *.ogg files. Check out the manpages for these programs if you
think you need further options.



> But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume is small (while
> the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a
> bigger sound in Pidgin?

Check the other volumes as well. PCM should be 100:100, too.
If vol == 100:100 and pcm == 10:10, it will be very silent. :-)

Do other applications (music and movie player, games etc.) play
louder sounds?



> PS: sorry for my terrible English :)

I'm not sure mine is better, don't mind. The guys on that list have
a lot of translational phantasy. :-)



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sound configuration for pidgin

2009-04-10 Thread kyanh
Hello all,

I'd like to hear some notification from Pidgin. When configuring Pidgin, I use
mplayer %s
to make Pidgin play stuff. But it's hard to hear the sound as pidgin's volume 
is small (while the system mixer is almost 100:100). Is there anyway to have a 
bigger sound in Pidgin?

Thank you!

PS: sorry for my terrible English :)

-- 
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Homepage: http://viettug.org/
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