Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-12 Thread DA Forsyth
On 12 Jun 2008 , DA Forsyth entreated about "Re: xRAID disks": > hmmm, thinking now the gmirror create/remove route will probably > work. let me try it on a blankish disk and see this appears to be the answer to the question: how to stop ar recognizing a disk that used

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-12 Thread DA Forsyth
On 10 Jun 2008 , Erik Trulsson entreated about "Re: xRAID disks": > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:56:07PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer > > > a raid pair, yet 'som

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-12 Thread DA Forsyth
On 10 Jun 2008 , Erik Trulsson entreated about "Re: xRAID disks": > > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable > > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how? > > That kind of information is usually stored last on the

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You do not normally have that much bandwidth even in a modern machine. Typical bandwidth for the northbridge/southbridge connection is 1-2 GB/s for most machines sold today. (For example just about all machines with a recent Intel desktop chipset. The connection between north- and south-bridge on

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:13:31PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > x> hardware support. > > > >> actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is > >> almostnothing to process. > > > > For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support. > > If you use software R

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
Erik Trulsson wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: Hiya I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got the answer. My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" RAID controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD system, it was immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages started coming in, like is there actually any difference in ar and gm

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" RAID controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD system, it was immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages started coming in, like is there actually any difference in ar and gmirror/gstripe except that

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
x> hardware support. actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is almostnothing to process. For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support. If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice (once to each disk), in parallel w

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Erik Trulsson wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: Hiya I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got the answer. My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:56:07PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer > > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and > > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. > > there a

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote: > Hiya > > I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info > but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got > the answer. > > My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago

Re: xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box. there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype. actually there i

xRAID disks....

2008-06-10 Thread DA Forsyth
Hiya I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got the answer. My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server