Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:12:37PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: I've not had a single crash / power outage that background fsck has been able to deal with. 90% of the time the machine will fail to even boot to single user mode :( You should turn write caching off on your drives. Steve

Re: 5.4 Installer + Promise FT100TX2 = Loader crash

2005-06-30 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:57, Doug White wrote: Try: . Zero off the first megabyte or so of the subdisks with dd or similar tool. . Force an array initialize from the controller BIOS. Wait for it to finish. . Install some other OS that recognizes the array, write the MBR and partition

RE: ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (problems booting - SATA hard disk not recognised) -

2005-06-30 Thread Alan Jay
Hi, Thought I would report back what I discovered. Following some suggestions on this list I booted into safe mode and installed the operating system successfully. I still couldn't get the machine to boot except in safe mode. After updating the source to the latest stable incarnation via

Re: ATA_Identify timeout ERROR - using Tyan S5350 with FreeBSD 5.4 (problems booting - SATA hard disk not recognised) -

2005-06-30 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:07:54 +0100 Alan Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After updating the source to the latest stable incarnation via cvsup I did a makeworld and rebuilt the kernel to take advantage of SMP support of our twin processors. At the end of that process the server boots fine. Not

i386/81215 - Any help on how to investigate a system freeze?

2005-06-30 Thread pcasidy
Hi! A few weeks ago I submitted this PR and obviously, there was not enough information provided to get some help. The PR is http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/81215 As I am getting more and more headaches using an ugly resolution I would like to make another round of

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread JM
Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:12:37PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: I've not had a single crash / power outage that background fsck has been able to deal with. 90% of the time the machine will fail to even boot to single user mode :( You should turn

Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes

2005-06-30 Thread Igor Robul
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: As far as I understand, the *only* people who can make that driver exists again are NVidia. I suggest you contact them and ask why they removed support for your graphics card. I don't expect that they will care or do anything, but they certainly won't if you don't tell

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Jorn Argelo
JM wrote: Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:12:37PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: I've not had a single crash / power outage that background fsck has been able to deal with. 90% of the time the machine will fail to even boot to single user mode :( You

Re: NVIDIA TNT2 woes

2005-06-30 Thread Igor Robul
Igor Robul wrote: If you cvsup your ports, then you'll get support for legacy cards in nvidia-driver port. Sorry, I have posted to incorrect list :-( ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Jails that won't die...

2005-06-30 Thread Eirik Øverby
On 29. jun. 2005, at 20.58, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:28:09PM +0200, Eirik Øverby wrote: On 28. jun. 2005, at 16.58, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:37:29AM +0200, Eirik Øverby wrote: Hi, I have, since upgrading to 5.x and

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Ronald Klop
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:50:33 +0200, Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JM wrote: Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:12:37PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: I've not had a single crash / power outage that background fsck has been able to deal with. 90% of the time

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Steven Hartland
Original Message - From: JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should turn write caching off on your drives. and in addition to that... you can enable a foreground fsck at boot which might be the better option if boot times aren't an issue. Normally they wouldn't but on some of our machines

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Jorn Argelo
Ronald Klop wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:50:33 +0200, Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JM wrote: Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:12:37PM +0100, Steven Hartland wrote: I've not had a single crash / power outage that background fsck has been able to deal

Error with cyrus-imapd22!!

2005-06-30 Thread Fracesco Cecconi
Error in installation of cyrus-imapd22!! mail/cyrus-imapd22/make install clean === Installing for cyrus-imapd-2.2.12_1 === cyrus-imapd-2.2.12_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Pod/Parser.pm - found === cyrus-imapd-2.2.12_1 depends on file:

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Christian Laursen
Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /me looks forward to a journaling FS The FS is the one area that really lets FreeBSD down in my opinion. Wish I had 1. the time and 2. the knowledge to help out with dev in the area but unfortunately I have neither :( Remember that if you are having

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Matthias Buelow
Christian Laursen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember that if you are having trouble with softupdates and background fsck reporting inconsistencies, journalling will just give you silent filesystem corruption instead. What makes you believe so? mkb.

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Christian Laursen
Matthias Buelow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christian Laursen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember that if you are having trouble with softupdates and background fsck reporting inconsistencies, journalling will just give you silent filesystem corruption instead. What makes you believe so?

Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
I've been trying to get 5.x installed on a machine in order to evaluate upgrading from 4.x, but am running into a host of troubles. First, I tried to install 5.2. Booting from CD, BTX would halt with a register dump. Next, I tried to install 5.3. Booting from CD, I'd eventually reach the Beastie

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be frozen. Next, I installed 4.10 (which installs fine) and tried to cvsup to -stable, but had problems with buildworld. More information required (as almost always): - type and model of maxhine? - dmesg output from

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:27:17PM +0200 I heard the voice of Torfinn Ingolfsen, and lo! it spake thus: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The machine is a clunker - P2-266 with 48MB RAM and a couple of 2GB ATA drives. And you are not running out of

Re: Error with cyrus-imapd22!!

2005-06-30 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:07:30PM +0200, Fracesco Cecconi wrote: Error in installation of cyrus-imapd22!! mail/cyrus-imapd22/make install clean === Installing for cyrus-imapd-2.2.12_1 === cyrus-imapd-2.2.12_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/Pod/Parser.pm - found

Re: background fsck can be dangerous!

2005-06-30 Thread Luke Crawford
This is not a problem with background fsck... this is the way soft updates is supposed to handle a power failure. Soft updates is designed to allow safe write caching. It orders writes such that the filesystem is always consistent. The worst that can happen in the case of power loss is

Re: named coredumping

2005-06-30 Thread Doug Barton
FYI, I had a chat with the ISC folks this week, and they said in clear terms that enabling threads on current versions of BIND would be a pessimization. I have already turned off threads in the port of 9.3.1, and am looking at doing that for the base as well. Could you give the port a try for now

Re: help with matrox parhelia 256Mb with dual head

2005-06-30 Thread Eric Ekong
* Eric Ekong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050629 23:18]: I am having issues getting dual head to work with this card and freebsd 5.4-STABLE. I previously had it working with the G550 with no problem. I am using Xorg with everything all updated from ports as of 5 minutes ago. As well as I am using

help with matrox parhelia 256Mb with dual head

2005-06-30 Thread Eric Ekong
I am having issues getting dual head to work with this card and freebsd 5.4-STABLE. I previously had it working with the G550 with no problem. I am using Xorg with everything all updated from ports as of 5 minutes ago. As well as I am using the Linux driver for 6.8.2 from Matrox. I am going to

fatal trap 12 in pagedaemon on dual-core opteron machine

2005-06-30 Thread Rob Watt
I've been having stability problems in a new dual-core opteron machine. When it first crashed we were running a number of multicast applications that were listening to, recording, and rebroadcasting data. I have been able to re-simulate the data play upto the crash and can recreate the panic 1 out

Re: fatal trap 12 in pagedaemon on dual-core opteron machine

2005-06-30 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 04:00:47PM -0400, Rob Watt wrote: #7 0x80400c0b in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:171 #8 0xff007c3b00f0 in ?? () #9 0xff007b78c500 in ?? () #10 0x0001840f in ?? () #11 0x in ?? () #12 0x

Re: Jails that won't die...

2005-06-30 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 03:53:56PM +0200, Eirik Øverby wrote: On 29. jun. 2005, at 20.58, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:28:09PM +0200, Eirik Øverby wrote: On 28. jun. 2005, at 16.58, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:37:29AM

Re: Jails that won't die...

2005-06-30 Thread Eirik Øverby
On 30. jun. 2005, at 22.56, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 03:53:56PM +0200, Eirik Øverby wrote: On 29. jun. 2005, at 20.58, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:28:09PM +0200, Eirik Øverby wrote: On 28. jun. 2005, at 16.58, Brian

Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
Hi all, Removing IPF for 5.4-STABLE seems to have made the boxes stable. I switched all the firewalls to PF and they haven't crashed since, its been about 3 days now... (before they were crashing every 12 hours). Here are my worries: 1) If I were to put this machine into production, it

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:07:59PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: Hi all, Removing IPF for 5.4-STABLE seems to have made the boxes stable. I switched all the firewalls to PF and they haven't crashed since, its been about 3 days now... (before they were crashing every 12 hours). Of course,

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Maciej Wierzbicki
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:07:59PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: Removing IPF for 5.4-STABLE seems to have made the boxes stable. I switched all the firewalls to PF and they haven't crashed since, its been about 3 days now... (before they were crashing every 12 hours). The similar situation:

Re: What is considered the best supported RAID controller for 5.x?

2005-06-30 Thread Douglas K. Rand
JM Basicly a process will hang in either ffsfsn (fsync induces this JM write) or getblk (a read), and as far as I can find out, the io JM just never returns even though the underlying block device JM continues to work fine.. I know this is probably a stupid answer, but ... Have you upgraded the

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
After changing to PF I did not notice single crash for month (production servers with, sometimes, heavy load). I would try FreeBSD with PF anyway. Works perfectly. You say it didn't crash for a month, but then you say to try FreeBSD with PF because it works perfectly. To me, a month of

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Maciej Wierzbicki
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:53:20PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: You say it didn't crash for a month, but then you say to try FreeBSD with PF because it works perfectly. To me, a month of uptime isn't perfectly. It is, comparing to two- or three-day uptime periodic when it crashes. With IPF.

Re: What is considered the best supported RAID controller for 5.x?

2005-06-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Douglas K. Rand wrote this message on Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 16:40 -0500: JM Basicly a process will hang in either ffsfsn (fsync induces this JM write) or getblk (a read), and as far as I can find out, the io JM just never returns even though the underlying block device JM continues to work

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be frozen. Next, I installed 4.10 (which installs fine) and tried to cvsup to -stable, but had problems with buildworld. More information required (as almost always): - type and model of maxhine? It's

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Max Laier
On Thursday 30 June 2005 23:58, Maciej Wierzbicki wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 05:53:20PM -0400, Matt Juszczak wrote: You say it didn't crash for a month, but then you say to try FreeBSD with PF because it works perfectly. To me, a month of uptime isn't perfectly. It is, comparing to

Re: Problems with 5.x [ boot-loader related, NOT hardware related ]

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
On 2005-Jun-30 18:18:16 -0400, Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More information required (as almost always): - type and model of maxhine? It's home-made. It doesn't have a type or model. FWIW, it's ran FreeBSD fine since 3.2. Presumably you bought the motherboard. What brand

Re: 5.4 Installer + Promise FT100TX2 = Loader crash

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:57, Doug White wrote: Try: . Zero off the first megabyte or so of the subdisks with dd or similar tool. . Force an array initialize from the controller BIOS. Wait for it to finish. . Install some other OS that recognizes the array, write the MBR

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:18:16PM -0400, Matt Emmerton wrote: - dmesg output from 4.11 (or 4.10) Don't have it anymore. - describe in detail your buildworld problems (and any other problems), specifically any error messages you might get. Basically, it konks out immediately while

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Dominic Marks
On Thursday 30 June 2005 22:53, Matt Juszczak wrote: After changing to PF I did not notice single crash for month (production servers with, sometimes, heavy load). I would try FreeBSD with PF anyway. Works perfectly. You say it didn't crash for a month, but then you say to try FreeBSD

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Juszczak
Could you not use pfsync to mitigate the problem (at least partially)? As for your original question, I think its less work to change your hardware to something you know works than changing operating systems. Why not use single CPU machines for this? My boss refuses :-(

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 06:18:16PM -0400, Matt Emmerton wrote: - dmesg output from 4.11 (or 4.10) Don't have it anymore. - describe in detail your buildworld problems (and any other problems), specifically any error messages you might get. Basically, it konks out immediately while

Re: 5.4 Installer + Promise FT100TX2 = Loader crash

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Mark Kirkwood wrote: Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:57, Doug White wrote: Try: . Zero off the first megabyte or so of the subdisks with dd or similar tool. . Force an array initialize from the controller BIOS. Wait for it to finish. . Install some other OS that recognizes

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Matt Emmerton wrote: I gave precise descriptions of what happened on 5.[234] and can provide more details if requested Please provide dmesg output from 4.x, as this will help us help you! Cheers Mark ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
Matt Emmerton wrote: I gave precise descriptions of what happened on 5.[234] and can provide more details if requested Please provide dmesg output from 4.x, as this will help us help you! See http://www.gsicomp.on.ca/~matt/5x/dmesg.410 -- Matt Emmerton

Re: Two Options: which to choose?

2005-06-30 Thread Joel
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Matt Juszczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [...] Therefore, part of me is thinking of switching back to either 4.11 or to OBSD 3.7. Problem is, this switch wouldn't be temporary, it would have to be permanant. I couldn't set things up now and then move

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 6/30/05, Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be frozen. Next, I installed 4.10 (which installs fine) and tried to cvsup to -stable, but had problems with buildworld. More information required (as

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
On 6/30/05, Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:57:38 -0400 Matt Emmerton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to be frozen. Next, I installed 4.10 (which installs fine) and tried to cvsup to -stable, but had problems with buildworld. More information

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Matt Emmerton
Matt Emmerton wrote: Processor: Intel Pentium II 266 MHz (Slot 1) Is the above typo, or have you underclocked it ? (from the dmesg : CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (*232.67-MHz* 686-class CPU) Likely a typo -- I built this machine a long time agoand all I know is that it's

Re: Problems with 5.x

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Matt Emmerton wrote: Processor: Intel Pentium II 266 MHz (Slot 1) Is the above typo, or have you underclocked it ? (from the dmesg : CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (*232.67-MHz* 686-class CPU) ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing

init: can't exec getty 'none' for port /dev/console: No such file or directory

2005-06-30 Thread Bashar
Hello, i noticed one of my boxes had the message init: can't exec getty 'none' for port /dev/console: No such file or directory into messages and repeating forever. any idea what does it mean? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list