Re: Backup solution suggestions [ggated]

2008-01-18 Thread Tom Judge
Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: On Jan 18, 2008 9:11 AM, Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your no,barely, bad hell no seems to fit pretty good.. I did some testing during the night with the above (non-production) setup. What I did was doing some rsyncing over the night: while true ; do e

Re: Backup solution suggestions [ggated]

2008-01-18 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Jan 18, 2008 9:11 AM, Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your no,barely, bad hell no seems to fit pretty good.. I did some > testing during the night with the above (non-production) setup. > What I did was doing some rsyncing over the night: > > while true ; do > echo "`date` Clea

Re: Backup solution suggestions [ggated]

2008-01-18 Thread Johan Ström
On Jan 17, 2008, at 09:30 , Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: On Jan 17, 2008 1:31 AM, Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Export the disk on the backup server with ggated. Bind it on the client with ggatec. Slap a GELI or GBDE encryption on top of it and then put a ZFS on top of it. You can mount/im

Re: Backup solution suggestions [ggated]

2008-01-17 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Jan 17, 2008 1:31 AM, Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Export the disk on the backup server with ggated. Bind it on the > > client > > with ggatec. Slap a GELI or GBDE encryption on top of it and then > > put a > > ZFS on top of it. > > > > You can mount/import this "remote" ZFS at wil

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-16 Thread Johan Ström
On Jan 16, 2008, at 19:02 , Toomas Aas wrote: Johan Ström wrote: My main problem with existing solutions is this "gap" of encryption on the backup server side. I dont want it to be readable outside of my box (without encryption keys ofcourse), so as soon as I send it of from my box I want

Re: Backup solution suggestions [ggated]

2008-01-16 Thread Johan Ström
On Jan 16, 2008, at 23:27 , Ulrich Spoerlein wrote: On Wed, 16.01.2008 at 00:26:34 +0100, Johan Ström wrote: I create regular tarball (gziped maybee) with some files i want to backup, Then i encrypt this file with ie gpg. Then i send of this file using some unspecified network protocol to t

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-16 Thread Ulrich Spoerlein
On Wed, 16.01.2008 at 00:26:34 +0100, Johan Ström wrote: > I create regular tarball (gziped maybee) with some files i want to backup, > Then i encrypt this file with ie gpg. Then i send of this file using some > unspecified network protocol to the storage server. > Encrypted all the way, from my

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-16 Thread Toomas Aas
Johan Ström wrote: My main problem with existing solutions is this "gap" of encryption on the backup server side. I dont want it to be readable outside of my box (without encryption keys ofcourse), so as soon as I send it of from my box I want it to be encrypted over the link, and down on the

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-16 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 00:26 +0100, Johan Ström wrote: > > Simple Example: > > I create regular tarball (gziped maybee) with some files i want to > backup, Then i encrypt this file with ie gpg. Then i send of this > file using some unspecified network protocol to the storage server. > Encrypte

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-16 Thread Tuomo Latto
Johan Ström wrote: I create regular tarball (gziped maybee) with some files i want to backup, Then i encrypt this file with ie gpg. Then i send of this file using some unspecified network protocol to the storage server. Encrypted all the way, from my end to the remote disk.. The downside is tha

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Johan Ström
On Jan 15, 2008, at 22:09 , Aristedes Maniatis wrote: On 15/01/2008, at 8:52 PM, Johan Ström wrote: I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some kind of NAS (a 4-disk 1U NAS or something in that size). The thing is that I won't be the only one with access to this bo

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Aristedes Maniatis
On 15/01/2008, at 8:52 PM, Johan Ström wrote: I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some kind of NAS (a 4-disk 1U NAS or something in that size). The thing is that I won't be the only one with access to this box, thus I would like to secure my data. What I would l

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Johan Ström
On Jan 15, 2008, at 13:44 , Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:40:02PM +0100, Vladimir Botka wrote: Dne Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:52:56 +0100 Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): Hello I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some kind of NAS (a 4-disk 1

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Johan Ström
On Jan 15, 2008, at 15:03 , Ronald Klop wrote: This sounds like a problem for 'tarsnap'. It's from the same author as portsnap. http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-09-13-encrypted-backup.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-08-29-tarsnap-update.html http://www.tarsnap.com/ I never use

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Ronald Klop
This sounds like a problem for 'tarsnap'. It's from the same author as portsnap. http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2006-09-13-encrypted-backup.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2007-08-29-tarsnap-update.html http://www.tarsnap.com/ I never used it so I don't know more about it than you can fi

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Johan Ström
First of all, thanks for your extensive answer! On Jan 15, 2008, at 13:34 , Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:52:56AM +0100, Johan Ström wrote: I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some kind of NAS (a 4-disk 1U NAS or something in that size). The thi

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 12:40:02PM +0100, Vladimir Botka wrote: > Dne Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:52:56 +0100 > Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > > > Hello > > > > I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some > > kind of NAS (a 4-disk 1U NAS or something in that size)

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:52:56AM +0100, Johan Ström wrote: > I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some kind > of NAS (a 4-disk 1U NAS or something in that size). The thing is that I > won't be the only one with access to this box, thus I would like to secure > my dat

Re: Backup solution suggestions

2008-01-15 Thread Vladimir Botka
Dne Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:52:56 +0100 Johan Ström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > Hello > > I'm looking to invest in some new hardware for backup. probably some > kind of NAS (a 4-disk 1U NAS or something in that size). The thing > is that I won't be the only one with access to this box, thus I