Re: pkg upgrade problem with Perl 5.24

2017-01-13 Thread Chris H
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:38:59 + Matthew Seaman  wrote

> On 2017/01/13 16:31, Chris H wrote:
> > As a general rule:
> > install from pkg(8) remove with pkg(8)
> > install from ports(7), remove with ports(7)
> > 
> 
> Sorry -- this is completely bogus.
Not entirely.

>  You can freely mix and match either
> way. Just make sure that the package names match up.
> 
> In fact the ports removes packages using pkg(8), so it all comes down to
> the same thing in the end.
That is the *intended* outcome, to be sure. *But* as noted in the OP[1],
and from some edge cases I've personally run into; the "general rule"
I listed, does apply. :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Matthew

I have now removed the package using pkg delete -f -n perl5-5.24.1.r4_1 and was
then able to install from ports without problems:

[1] root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
Name   : perl5.24
Version: 5.24.1.r5_1
Installed on   : Thu Jan 12 17:53:45 2017 CET
Origin : lang/perl5.24

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Re: pkg upgrade problem with Perl 5.24

2017-01-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 2017/01/13 16:31, Chris H wrote:
> As a general rule:
> install from pkg(8) remove with pkg(8)
> install from ports(7), remove with ports(7)
> 

Sorry -- this is completely bogus.  You can freely mix and match either
way. Just make sure that the package names match up.

In fact the ports removes packages using pkg(8), so it all comes down to
the same thing in the end.

Cheers,

Matthew



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Re: pkg upgrade problem with Perl 5.24

2017-01-13 Thread Chris H
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:43:41 + Holger Kipp  wrote

> Dear all,
> 
> I upgraded Perl to 5.24(1.r4_1) (via pkg upgrade).
> When I now try to install the latest version from ports (1.r5_1), the system
> can’t install the new version because of the older version, but can’t
> deinstall(*) the older version (eg. via make deinstall && make reinstall).
> 
> 
> 
> root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info | grep perl
> p5-Data-Dumper-2.161   Stringified perl data structures, suitable for
> both printing and eval p5-Pg-2.1.1_4,1Interface for using
> perl5 to access PostgreSQL databases p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.45,1Perl
> subroutines that would be nice to have in the perl core perl5-5.24.1.r4_1
>  Practical Extraction and Report Language 
>
> so currently via pkg upgrade I got perl5-5.24.1.r4_1, which perl itself
> confirms: root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # perl -v
> 
> This is perl 5, version 24, subversion 1 (v5.24.1) built for
> amd64-freebsd-thread-multi (with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more
> detail) 
>
> This is then obviously the version from FreeBSD repository.
> 
> If I try to install the latest version from ports (perl5-5.24.1.r5_1), I get
> the following (make install just to get the messages): 
>
> 
> root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # make install
> ===>  Installing for perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
> ===>  Checking if perl5.24 already installed
> ===>   Registering installation for perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
> Installing perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1...
> pkg-static: perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1 conflicts with perl5-5.24.1.r4_1 (installs
> files into the same place).  Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.24.1
> *** Error code 70
> 
> Stop.
> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.24
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop.
> make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.24
> 
> 
> Deinstalling the existing version does not work:
> 
> root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # make deinstall
> ===>  Deinstalling for perl5.24
> ===>   perl5.24 not installed, skipping
> 
> But according to pkg info it is installed:
> 
> root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info perl5
> perl5-5.24.1.r4_1
> Name   : perl5
> Version: 5.24.1.r4_1
> Installed on   : Thu Jan 12 12:51:03 2017 CET
> Origin : lang/perl5.24
> 
> 
> This sees to be a bit strange.
> 
> (*) I have now removed the package using pkg delete -f -n perl5-5.24.1.r4_1
> and was then able to install from ports without problems: 
>
> root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
> perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
> Name   : perl5.24
> Version: 5.24.1.r5_1
> Installed on   : Thu Jan 12 17:53:45 2017 CET
> Origin : lang/perl5.24
> 
> 
> Any ideas what happened here? I’m not sure if this is expected behaviour.
> 
> Many thanks and best regards,
> Holger
As a general rule:
install from pkg(8) remove with pkg(8)
install from ports(7), remove with ports(7)

That said; I didn't notice any evidence of which version of
FreeBSD, you're running (uname -a) --
It's important where Perl is concerned.

How about make.conf(5)? Anything interesting in there;
DEFAULT_VERSIONS+=
or
WITH_PKGNG=

HTH

--Chris


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Re: pkg upgrade problem with Perl 5.24

2017-01-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 2017/01/13 15:43, Holger Kipp wrote:
> so currently via pkg upgrade I got perl5-5.24.1.r4_1, which perl itself 
> confirms:
 ^
> ===>  Installing for perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
   

Notice the difference in package names.  One is calling itself 'perl5'
and the other 'perl5.24' which means pkg(8) thinks they are completely
different packages.  This is why compiling from ports can't delete the
version you installed as a pkg.

The reason for the different names is because in one case, that port was
designated the default perl version when the package was built, and in
the other case it wasn't.  5.24 is currently the default version of perl
in the FreeBSD package build cluster, as of the beginning of this month
for the latest quarterly branch.

Check your /etc/make.conf or similar -- do you have a DEFAULT_VERSIONS
setting for perl?  You should use something like:

   DEFAULT_VERSIONS+= perl5=5.24

which will at least make the pkg cluster and your own-build packages
agree on the package name.

Cheers,

Matthew




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pkg upgrade problem with Perl 5.24

2017-01-13 Thread Holger Kipp
Dear all,

I upgraded Perl to 5.24(1.r4_1) (via pkg upgrade).
When I now try to install the latest version from ports (1.r5_1), the system 
can’t install the new version because of the older version, but can’t 
deinstall(*) the older version (eg. via make deinstall && make reinstall).



root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info | grep perl
p5-Data-Dumper-2.161   Stringified perl data structures, suitable for 
both printing and eval
p5-Pg-2.1.1_4,1Interface for using perl5 to access PostgreSQL 
databases
p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.45,1Perl subroutines that would be nice to have in 
the perl core
perl5-5.24.1.r4_1  Practical Extraction and Report Language

so currently via pkg upgrade I got perl5-5.24.1.r4_1, which perl itself 
confirms:
root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # perl -v

This is perl 5, version 24, subversion 1 (v5.24.1) built for 
amd64-freebsd-thread-multi
(with 1 registered patch, see perl -V for more detail)

This is then obviously the version from FreeBSD repository.

If I try to install the latest version from ports (perl5-5.24.1.r5_1), I get 
the following (make install just to get the messages):


root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # make install
===>  Installing for perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
===>  Checking if perl5.24 already installed
===>   Registering installation for perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
Installing perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1...
pkg-static: perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1 conflicts with perl5-5.24.1.r4_1 (installs 
files into the same place).  Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.24.1
*** Error code 70

Stop.
make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.24
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.24


Deinstalling the existing version does not work:

root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # make deinstall
===>  Deinstalling for perl5.24
===>   perl5.24 not installed, skipping

But according to pkg info it is installed:

root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info perl5
perl5-5.24.1.r4_1
Name   : perl5
Version: 5.24.1.r4_1
Installed on   : Thu Jan 12 12:51:03 2017 CET
Origin : lang/perl5.24


This sees to be a bit strange.

(*) I have now removed the package using pkg delete -f -n perl5-5.24.1.r4_1 and 
was then able to install from ports without problems:

root@gw2:/usr/ports/lang/perl5.24 # pkg info perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
perl5.24-5.24.1.r5_1
Name   : perl5.24
Version: 5.24.1.r5_1
Installed on   : Thu Jan 12 17:53:45 2017 CET
Origin : lang/perl5.24


Any ideas what happened here? I’m not sure if this is expected behaviour.

Many thanks and best regards,
Holger

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