Re: tiny ukbd num lock issue

2010-08-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
 oh freaking wow!!!
 
 this just got weirder!!!
 
 i haven't had the two-press thing again, but since you listed the status 
 of the keys themselves, i decided to check just now...
 
 numlock off = numbers
 numlock on = cursor pad

nope. not the case here neither on the console nor under Xorg:

numlock off = cursor pad
numlock on = numbers

i'm not sure however if the issue where i need to press num lock multiple
times occurs only under Xorg or also when i'm just on the console and haven't
started Xorg at all.

i'll get back to you on that one.

cheers.
alex

 
 we have two different behaviors here.  please double check yours just in 
 case.  i just double-checked, my keypad is operating opposite the way it 
 should be.
 
 motherboard: intel dq45ek, most recent bios (mid august), numlock 
 defaults to on in bios cmos setting.
 
 just in case, i double-checked, my external keypad is hooked up to the 
 laptop, not this - no conflicts there.
 
 xorg is configured or default behavior, as is kde4.
 
 this might be a xorg or kde issue.  i just checked syscons.  normal 
 behavior there.  nums only when numlock is on.
 
 in kde system settings: leave unchanged is the enabled option.
 
 if you have kde4 installed (or any other wm) please check under x for 
 reverse behavior.
 
 Alexander Best wrote:
 On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
   
 when you had to press it twice, was that only for the first attempt, and 
 did pressing it once after that turn it off?  and once after that, on?
 
 
 exactly. it might be a bit easier to understand if i explain it this way:
 
 instance |   num lock led|   number keys working
 ---  | - | -
 no key press |   on  |   no
 1st key press|   on  |   no
 2nd key press|   off |   no
 3rd key press|   on  |   yes
 4th key press|   off |   no
 5th key press|   on  |   yes
 ...
 
 (key press refering to the num lock key)
 
 cheers.
 alex
 
   
 i just read your note here, and the following one about the long delays 
 (kern/99538), and was able to duplicate the two-press thing.
 
 amd64 here, under kde, and the keyboard is a compaq pos ps/2 via a 
 generic mouse/kb dongle/adapter for usb i got on ebay from hong kong:
 
 ukbd1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
 on usbus2
 ums1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
 on usbus2
 
 it seems that the press-twice scenario was only needed the first 
 attempt.  normal behaviour after that.
 
 8.1-stable last cvsup/build:
 
 FreeBSD orb.electron-tube.net 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 
 25 03:44:55 CDT 2010 
 jbry...@orb.electron-tube.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORB  amd64
 
 
 Alexander Best wrote:
 
 hi there,
 
 i have a very tiny num lock issue with ukbd on HEAD (amd64; r211393). in 
 my
 bios i have enabled the boot with num lock enabled feature. when i 
 fire up
 freebsd the num lock light on my keyboard is on. however the num lock 
 keys
 don't work. if i press the num lock button once nothing happens. if i 
 hit it
 twice the num lock led goes off. to make the num lock feature work i 
 have to
 actually hit the num lock key thrice.
 
 is this a known issue?
 
 cheers.
 alex
 
  
   
 
   

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Re: tiny ukbd num lock issue

2010-08-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
 oh freaking wow!!!
 
 this just got weirder!!!

just found PR 139144. maybe that's the cause for the problem? are you loading a
a specific keymap?

i'm using german.iso

cheers.
alex

 
 i haven't had the two-press thing again, but since you listed the status 
 of the keys themselves, i decided to check just now...
 
 numlock off = numbers
 numlock on = cursor pad
 
 we have two different behaviors here.  please double check yours just in 
 case.  i just double-checked, my keypad is operating opposite the way it 
 should be.
 
 motherboard: intel dq45ek, most recent bios (mid august), numlock 
 defaults to on in bios cmos setting.
 
 just in case, i double-checked, my external keypad is hooked up to the 
 laptop, not this - no conflicts there.
 
 xorg is configured or default behavior, as is kde4.
 
 this might be a xorg or kde issue.  i just checked syscons.  normal 
 behavior there.  nums only when numlock is on.
 
 in kde system settings: leave unchanged is the enabled option.
 
 if you have kde4 installed (or any other wm) please check under x for 
 reverse behavior.
 
 Alexander Best wrote:
 On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
   
 when you had to press it twice, was that only for the first attempt, and 
 did pressing it once after that turn it off?  and once after that, on?
 
 
 exactly. it might be a bit easier to understand if i explain it this way:
 
 instance |   num lock led|   number keys working
 ---  | - | -
 no key press |   on  |   no
 1st key press|   on  |   no
 2nd key press|   off |   no
 3rd key press|   on  |   yes
 4th key press|   off |   no
 5th key press|   on  |   yes
 ...
 
 (key press refering to the num lock key)
 
 cheers.
 alex
 
   
 i just read your note here, and the following one about the long delays 
 (kern/99538), and was able to duplicate the two-press thing.
 
 amd64 here, under kde, and the keyboard is a compaq pos ps/2 via a 
 generic mouse/kb dongle/adapter for usb i got on ebay from hong kong:
 
 ukbd1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
 on usbus2
 ums1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
 on usbus2
 
 it seems that the press-twice scenario was only needed the first 
 attempt.  normal behaviour after that.
 
 8.1-stable last cvsup/build:
 
 FreeBSD orb.electron-tube.net 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 
 25 03:44:55 CDT 2010 
 jbry...@orb.electron-tube.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORB  amd64
 
 
 Alexander Best wrote:
 
 hi there,
 
 i have a very tiny num lock issue with ukbd on HEAD (amd64; r211393). in 
 my
 bios i have enabled the boot with num lock enabled feature. when i 
 fire up
 freebsd the num lock light on my keyboard is on. however the num lock 
 keys
 don't work. if i press the num lock button once nothing happens. if i 
 hit it
 twice the num lock led goes off. to make the num lock feature work i 
 have to
 actually hit the num lock key thrice.
 
 is this a known issue?
 
 cheers.
 alex
 
  
   
 
   

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Re: tiny ukbd num lock issue

2010-08-27 Thread Alexander Best
On Fri Aug 27 10, Alexander Best wrote:
 On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
  oh freaking wow!!!
  
  this just got weirder!!!
 
 just found PR 139144. maybe that's the cause for the problem? are you loading 
 a
 a specific keymap?
 
 i'm using german.iso
 
 cheers.
 alex
 
  
  i haven't had the two-press thing again, but since you listed the status 
  of the keys themselves, i decided to check just now...
  
  numlock off = numbers
  numlock on = cursor pad
  
  we have two different behaviors here.  please double check yours just in 
  case.  i just double-checked, my keypad is operating opposite the way it 
  should be.
  
  motherboard: intel dq45ek, most recent bios (mid august), numlock 
  defaults to on in bios cmos setting.
  
  just in case, i double-checked, my external keypad is hooked up to the 
  laptop, not this - no conflicts there.
  
  xorg is configured or default behavior, as is kde4.
  
  this might be a xorg or kde issue.  i just checked syscons.  normal 
  behavior there.  nums only when numlock is on.

ok. i did some tests and it seems this is indeed an xorg problen. i couldn't
reproduce this on the console. i think this is an issue with hal. because i
also noticed that if i unplug my keyboard or mouse and plug it in again it
won't work properly under xorg (some keys don't work anymore). what i need to
do is switch to the console using ctrl+alt+[1-9] and then switch back to xorg
again. after that everything's back to normal.

so this not an usb issue it seems but related to xorg (most likely hal).

cheers.
alex

  
  in kde system settings: leave unchanged is the enabled option.
  
  if you have kde4 installed (or any other wm) please check under x for 
  reverse behavior.
  
  Alexander Best wrote:
  On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:

  when you had to press it twice, was that only for the first attempt, and 
  did pressing it once after that turn it off?  and once after that, on?
  
  
  exactly. it might be a bit easier to understand if i explain it this way:
  
  instance   |   num lock led|   number keys working
  ---| - | -
  no key press   |   on  |   no
  1st key press  |   on  |   no
  2nd key press  |   off |   no
  3rd key press  |   on  |   yes
  4th key press  |   off |   no
  5th key press  |   on  |   yes
  ...
  
  (key press refering to the num lock key)
  
  cheers.
  alex
  

  i just read your note here, and the following one about the long delays 
  (kern/99538), and was able to duplicate the two-press thing.
  
  amd64 here, under kde, and the keyboard is a compaq pos ps/2 via a 
  generic mouse/kb dongle/adapter for usb i got on ebay from hong kong:
  
  ukbd1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
  on usbus2
  ums1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
  on usbus2
  
  it seems that the press-twice scenario was only needed the first 
  attempt.  normal behaviour after that.
  
  8.1-stable last cvsup/build:
  
  FreeBSD orb.electron-tube.net 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 
  25 03:44:55 CDT 2010 
  jbry...@orb.electron-tube.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORB  amd64
  
  
  Alexander Best wrote:
  
  hi there,
  
  i have a very tiny num lock issue with ukbd on HEAD (amd64; r211393). in 
  my
  bios i have enabled the boot with num lock enabled feature. when i 
  fire up
  freebsd the num lock light on my keyboard is on. however the num lock 
  keys
  don't work. if i press the num lock button once nothing happens. if i 
  hit it
  twice the num lock led goes off. to make the num lock feature work i 
  have to
  actually hit the num lock key thrice.
  
  is this a known issue?
  
  cheers.
  alex
  
   

  

 
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Re: tiny ukbd num lock issue

2010-08-26 Thread Alexander Best
On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
 when you had to press it twice, was that only for the first attempt, and 
 did pressing it once after that turn it off?  and once after that, on?

exactly. it might be a bit easier to understand if i explain it this way:

instance|   num lock led|   number keys working
--- | - | -
no key press|   on  |   no
1st key press   |   on  |   no
2nd key press   |   off |   no
3rd key press   |   on  |   yes
4th key press   |   off |   no
5th key press   |   on  |   yes
...

(key press refering to the num lock key)

cheers.
alex

 
 i just read your note here, and the following one about the long delays 
 (kern/99538), and was able to duplicate the two-press thing.
 
 amd64 here, under kde, and the keyboard is a compaq pos ps/2 via a 
 generic mouse/kb dongle/adapter for usb i got on ebay from hong kong:
 
 ukbd1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
 on usbus2
 ums1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
 on usbus2
 
 it seems that the press-twice scenario was only needed the first 
 attempt.  normal behaviour after that.
 
 8.1-stable last cvsup/build:
 
 FreeBSD orb.electron-tube.net 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 
 25 03:44:55 CDT 2010 
 jbry...@orb.electron-tube.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORB  amd64
 
 
 Alexander Best wrote:
 hi there,
 
 i have a very tiny num lock issue with ukbd on HEAD (amd64; r211393). in my
 bios i have enabled the boot with num lock enabled feature. when i fire 
 up
 freebsd the num lock light on my keyboard is on. however the num lock keys
 don't work. if i press the num lock button once nothing happens. if i hit 
 it
 twice the num lock led goes off. to make the num lock feature work i have 
 to
 actually hit the num lock key thrice.
 
 is this a known issue?
 
 cheers.
 alex
 
   
 

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Re: tiny ukbd num lock issue

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Bryant

oh freaking wow!!!

this just got weirder!!!

i haven't had the two-press thing again, but since you listed the status 
of the keys themselves, i decided to check just now...


numlock off = numbers
numlock on = cursor pad

we have two different behaviors here.  please double check yours just in 
case.  i just double-checked, my keypad is operating opposite the way it 
should be.


motherboard: intel dq45ek, most recent bios (mid august), numlock 
defaults to on in bios cmos setting.


just in case, i double-checked, my external keypad is hooked up to the 
laptop, not this - no conflicts there.


xorg is configured or default behavior, as is kde4.

this might be a xorg or kde issue.  i just checked syscons.  normal 
behavior there.  nums only when numlock is on.


in kde system settings: leave unchanged is the enabled option.

if you have kde4 installed (or any other wm) please check under x for 
reverse behavior.


Alexander Best wrote:

On Thu Aug 26 10, Jim Bryant wrote:
  
when you had to press it twice, was that only for the first attempt, and 
did pressing it once after that turn it off?  and once after that, on?



exactly. it might be a bit easier to understand if i explain it this way:

instance|   num lock led|   number keys working
--- | - | -
no key press|   on  |   no
1st key press   |   on  |   no
2nd key press   |   off |   no
3rd key press   |   on  |   yes
4th key press   |   off |   no
5th key press   |   on  |   yes
...

(key press refering to the num lock key)

cheers.
alex

  
i just read your note here, and the following one about the long delays 
(kern/99538), and was able to duplicate the two-press thing.


amd64 here, under kde, and the keyboard is a compaq pos ps/2 via a 
generic mouse/kb dongle/adapter for usb i got on ebay from hong kong:


ukbd1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
on usbus2
ums1: vendor 0x13ba Generic USB K/B, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 
on usbus2


it seems that the press-twice scenario was only needed the first 
attempt.  normal behaviour after that.


8.1-stable last cvsup/build:

FreeBSD orb.electron-tube.net 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #0: Wed Aug 
25 03:44:55 CDT 2010 
jbry...@orb.electron-tube.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORB  amd64



Alexander Best wrote:


hi there,

i have a very tiny num lock issue with ukbd on HEAD (amd64; r211393). in my
bios i have enabled the boot with num lock enabled feature. when i fire 
up

freebsd the num lock light on my keyboard is on. however the num lock keys
don't work. if i press the num lock button once nothing happens. if i hit 
it
twice the num lock led goes off. to make the num lock feature work i have 
to

actually hit the num lock key thrice.

is this a known issue?

cheers.
alex

 
  


  

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