On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 15:12, Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote:
> tom ehlert wrote:
> > unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires
> > written consent from all contributors ;)
>
> Most GPL'd programs have this statement:
>
> This program is free software; you can redistribut
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:45:33 -0600, you wrote:
Hi Jim,
>Just thought I'd forward this to the list: looks like Slashdot has
>listed FreeDOS as an option in their new poll: "Favorite hobby OS".
>
>http://slashdot.org/index.pl
>
>
>:-)
FreeDOS is "more than a hobby"! ;-)
I'm trying to use Termina
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:22:38 -0600, you wrote:
Hi Michael,
>That's interesting. MPXPLAY lets me play a CD with a NUL output, which is mildly
>amusing to watch. I can run MPXPLAY fine with NOEMS, or EMS set, with DOS=HIGH,UMB,
>or DOS=HIGH (without UMB). Maybe the problem is with VCPI and you
Hi!
18-Мар-2004 18:35 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> program). Before this, I suggest, we may pack executables freely.
A> NOT AT ALL. Following SCO example, if we do that, _every_ FreeDOS user
A> could be sued. That would be catastrophic.
This example proves nothin
Just thought I'd forward this to the list: looks like Slashdot has
listed FreeDOS as an option in their new poll: "Favorite hobby OS".
http://slashdot.org/index.pl
:-)
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Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote:
tom ehlert wrote:
unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires
written consent from all contributors ;)
Most GPL'd programs have this statement:
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the
Arkady V.Belousov escreveu:
I agreed: even if someone makes _real_ complain ("why you use my
proprietary compression program?"), then we may find workaround or we may
drop exepacking at all (especially because _this is not essential part of
program). Before this, I suggest, we may pack execu
tom ehlert wrote:
unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires
written consent from all contributors ;)
Most GPL'd programs have this statement:
This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published b
Luchezar,
>> and that's the point where it hurts: that I can't exepack KERNEL.SYS and
>> FREECOM.COM with aPack to save some Kbyte
LG> You may be able to do this "Real Soon Now" (in the FSF's sense, which
LG> means some months ;-)
unlikely. changing the license (from GPL2 to GPL3) requires
writt
Hi!
18-Мар-2004 17:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
LG> was a sarcasm! Why? Because we care more about the letter and not the
LG> spirit of the GPL.
LG> What is the goal of the GPL? Providing freedom and ensuring that nobody
LG> can deprive anybody from it. Do
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:42:52 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
and that's the point where it hurts: that I can't exepack KERNEL.SYS and
FREECOM.COM with aPack to save some Kbyte
You may be able to do this "Real Soon Now" (in the FSF's sense, which
means some months ;-)
Those tiny 200 bytes provoked the
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:12:41 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he wrote several files from
scratch?
several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB,
should he ask me.
As an active Linux developer he probably doesn't care, and even if it does
this,
Hello Jim,
JH> Yes, looks like BG. Looking at the mkeyb 0.40 zip file:
right - he provided 2 bulgarian layouts.
>>
>> JH> Or perhaps Henrique Peron, the original author?
>> there never was, is, or will ever be a single line from henrique
>> peron. stop dreaming.
JH> Comments in the code imply o
Bart,
BO> Who can sue Tom for changing the license? The copyright holders.
There aren't any.
contributing to a project doesn't mean you get a copyright.
BO> Will they
BO> sue Tom? They'll have a tough time in court (because the contributions
BO> are minor and close to fair use)
only 'close' to fa
tom ehlert wrote:
Hello Jim,
JH> I assume you mean yourself? Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he
JH> wrote several files from scratch?
several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB,
should he ask me.
Yes, looks like BG. Looking at the mkeyb 0.40 zip file:
/* keydefbg.h
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote:
> JH> What about Pat Villani, who wrote prf.c and portab.h?
> this prf.c was written by the author of mkeyb, NOT pat villani.
yes, prf.c was completely recoded in the early days I started maintaining
the kernel. It's had some more updates from me in the kern
Hi, criminal news...
I share the point of view that I can compile things with museum Turbo C
and even spread them. But I cannot spread Turbo C itself easily: I am
supposed to send people to the Borland museum to fetch their own copy
if they want one. If you disagree about that, I can publish sour
Hello Jim,
JH> I assume you mean yourself? Or do you mean Anton Zinoviev, since he
JH> wrote several files from scratch?
several ? and I will immediately remove the BG keyboard from MKEYB,
should he ask me.
JH> Or perhaps Henrique Peron, the original author?
there never was, is, or will ever be
Hi!
18-Мар-2004 08:14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>>Don't know if Bart has a TC/BC license; else all old kernels (compiled
>>with TC), are illegal, too.
MD> Shhh! The Borland Compliance Engineer may hear you. I wonder how one goes
MD> about getting a complianc
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Jim Hall wrote:
> Correct - if both modules (the apack stub and the original program) are
> part of the same exe, they are no longer aggregates. They have become a
> single executable. That is what Dave Turner (FSF) was trying to
> communicate.
OK, I'm trying to hook into t
Steve,
>> AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to
>> 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled programs,
>>you have to buy a license'
SNUW> Someone asked what they meant and they said it simply meant you can't
SNUW> redistribute the compiler. (This wa
tom ehlert wrote:
MKEYB 0.40 released
changes:
now uses APACK for 200 byte smaller executable
licensing changed to allow distribution of APACK'ed executables
JH> What you have indicated in your release is that you modified the license
JH> to allow distribution of the aPack'ed binary. However, yo
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote:
> >> Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of
> >> watcom).
>
> LG> ...and the Borland Museum compilers.
>
> AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to
> 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compil
Correct - if both modules (the apack stub and the original program) are
part of the same exe, they are no longer aggregates. They have become a
single executable. That is what Dave Turner (FSF) was trying to
communicate.
-jh
In the FSF terminology, aPack is "semi-free", not proprietary. SY2
Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
Hi!
17-Мар-2004 08:12 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hall) wrote to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
MKEYB 0.40 released
As sayed Lucho there is 0.39.
JH> I think there's a problem here. If you recall the discussion with Dave
JH> Turner (FSF), he said:
I heard that you were considerin
tom ehlert wrote:
AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to
'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled programs,
you have to buy a license'
Someone asked what they meant and they said it simply meant you can't
redistribute the compiler. (This was on their
At 02:56 PM 3/18/2004 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
>>> Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of
>>> watcom).
>
>LG> ...and the Borland Museum compilers.
>
>AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to
> 'free for personal use. if you want to distribute comp
>> Neither are most compilers in use for FreeDOS (with the exception of
>> watcom).
LG> ...and the Borland Museum compilers.
AFAIR, the Borland museum compilers have a license similar to
'free for personal use. if you want to distribute compiled programs,
you have to buy a license'
Unfor
At 08:59 PM 3/18/2004 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote:
>>MPXPLAY requires a sound card and my machine's Creative Labs CT4810 doesn't have
>>drivers that work under DOS and fails all SB legacy checks, so I can't check
>>anything with sound.
>
>The different is it works fine under another memory manager.
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:24:27 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote:
Lucho may want to squeeze the program into a flash disk or ROM, that's
why every byte is precious.
Not only Lucho :)
But ASPACK is not free! I'm worry about the copyright problem will
happen again.
ASPACK is a Russian PE executable packer.
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:24:06 -0600, you wrote:
Hi Michael,
>QuickView Pro is documented on the vendor's site as failing at exit due to ZRDX
>extender under FreeDOS. Whatever the heck ZRDX is doing or not doing, it's been
>doing it for a while. You might try their patch to move it to PMODE/W,
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:55:07 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Lucho,
>> That's why another author László Molnár remain silent.
>Because NRV isn't available even to him!!! :-( Have you ever signed an NDA?
I mean UPX totally silent because Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer is having
his own project NRV ... that why not
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:28:16 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
Even flash disks allocate space on a sector base, so Bart's point is
valid.
Yes, but (1) sector size may be only 128 bytes in a ROM-disk, and (2) it
may be compressed through LHA (used for Award BIOS modules) so unused
spaces vanish and only
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:32:17 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote:
Here is the explanation why NRV isn't included in UPX.
Sorry, I meant that it isn't included in the UPX *source*.
That's why another author LÃszlà MolnÃr remain silent.
Because NRV isn't available even to him!!! :-( Have you ever signed an ND
At 04:17 PM 3/18/2004 +0800, Johnson Lam wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:41:37 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>I've tested QuickView PRO 2.53 (Multimedia viewer) and MPXPLAY 2.30
>(latest build).
>
>When I quit from QV after watching VCD, the display show black. When I
>try using MODE CO80 to change mode if
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:46:21 +0100 (MET), Eric Auer wrote:
luckily both the non-NRV versions of UPX (i.e. the compile yourself
ones, which I have to use in Linux anyway because there are no
precompiled
UPX binaries for my ooold libc) and Info-ZIP are find in combination with
GPL license-wise. So
Hello Johnson,
>>I wonder why you'd want to save 200 bytes anyway, when the disk space used
>>is exactly the same (8002 -> 7802, both 16 sectors)?
JL> Lucho may want to squeeze the program into a flash disk or ROM, that's
JL> why every byte is precious.
Even flash disks allocate space on a sector
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael
> Devore
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Another EMM386 release, bugfixes and
> enhancements
>
[...]
> I downloaded Duke Nukem 3D,
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:41:37 -0600, you wrote:
Hi Michael,
>Since the VCPI basic mechanics are working well, and the various descriptor tables
>are all passed off at startup and then are the responsibility of the client, I'm not
>sure where the problem could be. Mouse and extended video, is th
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