> Don't forget Hampa Hug's PCE - PC Emulator:
> http://www.hampa.ch/pce/pce-ibmpc.html
It turns out that PCE has a custom BIOS so it's pretty easy to detect. I was
thinking it would be set up more like PCem and 86Box which actually use images
of the original ROMs from the original computers way
Hi,
> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:11 PM, Robert Riebisch wrote:
>
> Hi Jerome,
>
>> Without going into great details, I have made a couple programs that
>> can do some (i think) neat visual tricks that require VGA support. One
>> such visual trick works on nearly all REAL hardware and in DOSBox.
>> H
> Don't forget Hampa Hug's PCE - PC Emulator:
> http://www.hampa.ch/pce/pce-ibmpc.html
I'll experiment with that one too, but it's really hard to detect emulations of
really old hardware. You usually need things like PCI and CPUID to detect
things reliably.
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> What VPC are we talking about?
> VPC as in Virtual PC?
> The one made by Microsoft?
> I doubt, any version of VPC included FreeDOS, but feel free to prove
> me wrong. :-)
I might have misspoke there -- I thought it was JPC he was talking about (JPC
does come with a version of FreeDOS). Virtual
Hi Bret,
> 86Box
> Bochs
> DOSBox
> DOSBox-X
> DOSEmu / DOSEmu2
> Hyper-V
> JPC
> KVM
> Parallels
> PCem
> QEMU
> vDOS
> VirtualBox
> VirtualPC (Connectix)
> VirtualPC (Microsoft)
> VMWare
Don't forget Hampa Hug's PCE - PC Emulator:
http://www.hampa.ch/pce/pce-ibmp
Hi Bret,
>> VPC uses FreeDOS?? Not sure.
>
> Yes.
What VPC are we talking about?
VPC as in Virtual PC?
The one made by Microsoft?
I doubt, any version of VPC included FreeDOS, but feel free to prove me
wrong. :-)
Cheers,
Robert
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DOS ain't dead h
Hi Jerome,
> Without going into great details, I have made a couple programs that
> can do some (i think) neat visual tricks that require VGA support. One
> such visual trick works on nearly all REAL hardware and in DOSBox.
> However, it does not work in any other tested VM. Therefore testing for
On 10/26/2022 7:43 AM, Danilo Pecher wrote:
Since thengraphics cards of VMs are, as far as I'm aware generally
VESA compatible, unless you specifically decide not to use one in qemu
or bochs, you should have a relatively high hitrate by using the 4Fh
interrupt to query the VESA info. In the case
Since thengraphics cards of VMs are, as far as I'm aware generally
VESA compatible, unless you specifically decide not to use one in qemu
or bochs, you should have a relatively high hitrate by using the 4Fh
interrupt to query the VESA info. In the case of Virtualbox/VMWare,
you'll definitely find o
Rugxulo said:
>I can't remember exactly (would have to check), but I think I just
>used BERNDPCI.COM.
What: a program in assemble to search a PCI device with a specified vendor ID
and device ID
helpmsg db "BerndPCI, the simple PCI device counter",13,10
db "A Public Domain
> It also has a general Emulation detection. But, that rarely detects
> a generic VM.
AFAIK, it's not possible to detect a generic VM, though I think when I get done
with what I'm doing I can come pretty close. In your case, though, it sounds
like you actually need that capability for your VGA
> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:24 PM, Bret Johnson wrote:
>
>> Jerome's V8Power Tools will detect some VMs, IIRC:
>
> Yes, I checked that out. In the version I looked at, it detects 3 different
> VMs all using the same method (looking for a specific identification string
> in BIOS memory). That
> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:40 AM, Ralf Quint wrote:
>
> On 10/24/2022 6:38 PM, Bret Johnson wrote:
>> Anyway, I'm wondering how "involved" FreeDOS should be in the VM world (I
>> think in today's world the vast majority of users install DOS under a VM
>> rather than on real hardware, though I p
> VirtualBox gives you the chance to have 5 different network cards;
> other virtualizers probably similar.
I would know which Ethernet NIC I have configured in VirtualBox. In VirtualBox
you can also detect the Ethernet card though PCI, but that's not true in every
VM. In addition, just becaus
> One of the main things that started me down this rabbit trail was
> the need to know which Ethernet card is being virtualized in a
> particular VM so I can load the correct packet driver.
> I have a
> single ETHERNET.BAT file I run to install the packet driver, and
> since detecting which netw
> Since what you need to know is which Ethernet card is being
> virtualized, perhaps it would be sufficient to simply scan the PCI
> bus to see what class 2 devices reside there?
> ...
> Of course, if the majority of cards for which you need to search are
> non-PCI (e.g. some old ISA stuff) then th
> One of the main things that started me down this rabbit trail was
> the need to know which Ethernet card is being virtualized in a
> particular VM so I can load the correct packet driver.
ca. 30 years ago PCI enumerating has been invented.
> I have a
> single ETHERNET.BAT file I run to inst
On 10/24/2022 6:38 PM, Bret Johnson wrote:
Anyway, I'm wondering how "involved" FreeDOS should be in the VM world
(I think in today's world the vast majority of users install DOS under
a VM rather than on real hardware, though I personally do both). How
involved in testing/recommending applicat
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