On Tue, 11 Jun 2024, Chelson a via Freedos-devel wrote:
Yes obviously the legal side of things prevents using that code, it's also
a good reference of how it all works and you could build from scratch.
Do that and you'll be sued into the ground faster than you can say
"Chinese wall".
-uso.
On Sun, 9 Jun 2024, daniel silva ferreira bruno via Freedos-devel wrote:
Hi, people.
What about the ArcaOS? It can run Windows 16-bit applications among other
applications.
Cheers,
Daniel,
An enthusiastic for DOS from Brazil.
OS/2 is the rights snarl to end all rights snarls.
Also, it
On Thu, 30 May 2024, Wolf Bergenheim via Freedos-devel wrote:
I'm using Borland C++ 3.1 for now as that's the compiler I used 22 years
ago... Looks like porting to Watcom will require a bit of work... It is
something I want to do eventually, I think. Just need to read up on the
inline assembler
On Mon, 27 May 2024, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
My email to the list bounced as undeliverable, but I'm sending this test
just in case it was a temporary hiccup.
Can someone reply to this thread if you can see this message?
*sent May 27 11:20pm
Second attempt - first one immediately
On Wed, 22 May 2024, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote:
it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix it.
and those who care about zoo have no clue.
I regret that I have to say this.
Tom
Was zoo even popular in its heyday?
I feel like when it comes to DOS, for
On Fri, 10 May 2024, Green Fog via Freedos-devel wrote:
There you go. The 2 requirements for free dos being a thing are just not
there. not ease of use. I need to use an antique mail list for
communication and wiki/documentation. It's absurd and very not efficient. I
am very busy, and I can't
On Tue, 7 May 2024, Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel wrote:
I don't think there is really a point in trying to get the whole thing
compiled with FOSS tools. This is just a Sisyphos task, for no or very
little gain. There is a reason why they included the old, matching tools
in the release.
I
On Sat, 4 May 2024, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote:
Hello Steve,
Some of the code's pretty braindead, too. Especially what looks to
have come from IBM. I mean...house styles vary, but Algolization is
still just hideous-looking. But it goes beyond that - think some of
the
On Fri, 3 May 2024, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
On Fri, May 3, 2024, 10:53 PM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
So I've had some thoughts regarding the MS-DOS 4 source drop, regarding
[...]
(The obvious question:
Why not use what F
So I've had some thoughts regarding the MS-DOS 4 source drop, regarding
things I'd like to do with the code. I'm not really that good of a coder
and probably would only be able to do some of them myself. (I'd kill for
a 3.3 drop - would obviate a lot of these things! And 5 and 6.2 even
On Thu, 2 May 2024, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote:
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 08:25, Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel
wrote:
Everything but himem, dosshell, gwbasic, and parts of xmaem/xma2ems,
apparently. I got most of it compiled using the tools in the archive.
That being the case
On Thu, 2 May 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote:
Hi!
I have no life - I can devote the time and energy to it, just don't have
the brainpower I'd like to think I have.
I hope that will get better :-o
Eric
Well, I certainly know more about C, 8088 ASM, and MS-DOS than I did going
On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote:
I have no idea why I would recompile old MS stuff, but as a hobby it's
ok.
6.21 would be much more useful and no doubt a lot more people would want
to do what I'm trying to do for 4.01 with a 6.21 source drop.
(Even 5.0 would be more
On Tue, 30 Apr 2024, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote:
Sadly not. Only the binaries are released under MIT through the repository.
Does that mean we finally have a genuinely open sourced OMF linker?
-hpa
It's my opinion that including them was more of a fortuitous accident than
On Sun, 28 Apr 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote:
- Use the Microsoft versions of HIMEM and EMM386 and SMARTDRV
(bundled with Windows, alternatively from MIT-released MSDOS 4?)
so update your config and autoexec accordingly
HIMEM 2.04 is included in 4.0, but it wasn't in the source
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote:
As mentioned by DOSEMU2 people, this is a somewhat exotic,
but interesting MS DOS 4.00, not the once widespread 4.01:
Actually, apart from having the io.sys sources to the multitasking 4, this
is the regular 4.x line from 1988. Most of
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote:
Microsoft and IBM released the source code of MS-DOS 4.0 under MIT
license [1]. To me, it looks fairly complete.
Everything but himem, dosshell, gwbasic, and parts of xmaem/xma2ems,
apparently. I got most of it compiled using the
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
I'm looking for a way to keep my text files (like README.TXT) tidy and
easy to read. One problem is that if I modify a plain text file in a
regular text editor, and change the line length in the middle of a
paragraph, now I have to fix all
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
I actually never learned DOS assembly programming, but decided I'd
like to start.
What assembler do you recommend, and where is a good place to start
learning about DOS assembly programming? Start with a "Hello world"
program and
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023, Rugxulo via Freedos-devel wrote:
Ryzen (Zen 1) was brand new in 2017, redesigned from scratch. I doubt
the current Zen 4 (2022) has that bug, but who knows. (Now that the
BIOS and CSM are dead, they may not care to fix it. And the whole
"x86-S" rumors imply legacy is going
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Deposite Pirate via Freedos-devel wrote:
You should read again what he said. A 286 running a DOS doesn't need
"maintained drivers". If fdxms286 works on a 286, there is no reason it's not
going to work or in a lesser way now. DOS is not Linux/BSD.
People forget that it's
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Harald Arnesen via Freedos-devel wrote:
Jim Hall via Freedos-devel [02/11/2023 11.12]:
So now phishers are pretending to be FreeDOS emails. That's pretty
targeted phishing (aka "spear phishing" where attackers customize the
email to be very specific to the recipient).
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote:
On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 10:29, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel
wrote:
The best solution would be three disks:
BaseCD - no bigger than 300MB, only basic tools
ApplicationCD - Editors, Gemes, Utilities - the lot
DeveloperCD
I agree
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 at 00:13, Rugxulo via Freedos-devel
wrote:
(DJGPP v1 SDK)
What does DV have to do with DJGPP?
I'm not sure it was *DJGPP*. It *was* based on GCC - and I do think it
was GCC 1 - but that's the extent of my
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023, Rugxulo via Freedos-devel wrote:
Long story short: I don't think FreeDOS not having a DOSshell clone is
a significant omission. Nobody will write the "program switcher" code
(too complex), and we already have file managers. So I don't see what
else it would offer. Feel free
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote:
Yeah, around 1993 was when the first ones arrived.
I know I was hearing about CD-ROM drives connected to the Apple IIgs when
I was still in grade school (so no later than mid-1990)...
-uso.
On Mon, 7 Aug 2023, Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote:
The first one I can remember was the Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S single speed
drive, which was the one I had. It had its own card because it was
non-IDE despite the fact that the cable and plug looked exactly like
IDE. They did use a
On Sun, 30 Jul 2023, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote:
*Aside: I thought QBASIC would only run on MS-DOS, but I checked the
screenshot the user sent me; it's really MS-DOS QBASIC, not QuickBASIC
or something else. And the series of screenshots they sent indicated
QBASIC was running on FreeDOS.
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023, Jose Senna via Freedos-devel wrote:
While I am just an user, I also think that a
GUI for DOS is not an important improvement.
As Liam Proven, I think that a shell that
is a good app launcher, file manager and
provides fast task switching with a small
memory footprint would
On Sun, 23 Jul 2023, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote:
ISTM that all the other graphical shells in FreeDOS are even less
useful than GEM, and it would be no loss to remove them... but adding
GEOS would be a win.
in what way is GEOS even related to FreeDOS which runs on PC's?
unless
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