Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-22 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, to answer some specific parts of your mail: Yes, it is useful to have two different boot style CD images and not only the more compatible variant plus a boot floppy image. Because the latter would mean that people which could boot CD only in the less common style would need a floppy

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 17, 2022, at 4:05 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 20:15, Robert Riebisch wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> >>> I suspect the term is regional :-) It's the same thing as a USB thumb >>> drive or USB flash drive. >>> >>> USB flash drive is the more common term. >> >>

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Liam Proven
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 20:15, Robert Riebisch wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > I suspect the term is regional :-) It's the same thing as a USB thumb > > drive or USB flash drive. > > > > USB flash drive is the more common term. > > In Germany it's often called "USB stick". Agreed. USB key/stick/thumb

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim, > I suspect the term is regional :-) It's the same thing as a USB thumb > drive or USB flash drive. > > USB flash drive is the more common term. In Germany it's often called "USB stick". Cheers, Robert -- +++ BTTR Software +++ Home page:

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > I think it's better not to hide features - so yes, the FloppyEdition > installer should get its own entry in the CD boot menu. But from your > description, maybe it needs a different name. Hi, > On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Jim Hall

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Jim Hall
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 21:35, Jim Hall wrote: > > > I write the ISO image to a USB fob drive On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:11 AM Liam Proven wrote: > > I don't think I've ever heard them called that before! :-) >[..] I suspect the term is regional :-) It's the same thing as a USB thumb drive

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Liam Proven
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 21:35, Jim Hall wrote: > I write the ISO image to a USB fob drive I don't think I've ever heard them called that before! :-) > I think you can do the same with Rufus. It writes the image and makes the > USB fob drive bootable. I would think so. I have not tried.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-17 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Something I've wondered is if we really need the USB installer at all. Not as > in "let's get rid of the USB installer for the sake of getting rid of it." I > know that some people do use the USB installer (comes up in questions on >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-16 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-devel
On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 3:34 PM, Jim Hall wrote: > ... > I run Linux, and use Fedora on my PC. When I download a new version of > [Fedora Workstation](https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/), it > comes as a DVD ISO image. But my PC doesn't have a DVD drive (my previous >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-16 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 6:33 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > [..] > We come to UEFI and modern hardware. With modern hardware vendors dropping > support for Legacy BIOS and users wanting to run FreeDOS on modern > machines, I only see three solutions. > > First… Oh well, they can run it in a virtual

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-16 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 6:33 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > [..] > A lot of users want to run FreeDOS from USB. As I see it, there are > several issues with that. > > First, you cannot guarantee that when booted from USB that drive will be > writable. Personally, I’ve never seen when it was write

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-16 Thread Jim Hall
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 6:33 AM Jerome Shidel wrote: > Hello all, > > I’ve got a couple thoughts regarding the OS release media I wanted to > throw out to you all. These are just things I was pondering and by no means > I’m I saying any of these are going to happen. They are just some ideas I’d

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-15 Thread TK Chia
Hello Jerome, Second… I really haven’t looked into this one at all. But, I think it would be possible to use Core Boot, SeaBios or something else to provide Legacy BIOS support ourselves on UEFI only systems. This would be a good deal of work. It also still leaves the problem of sound

Re: [Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-15 Thread Aitor Santamaría
Hi, For me the last option (use Linux as VMM) would be the most sensible, needing the least support effort for hardware and drivers: the Linux guys will do it :) Hardware-based DOS distributions will never get outdated because Linux never will. I think we talked about this option some time in

[Freedos-devel] Contemplations, Considerations and some Conclusions

2022-01-15 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hello all, I’ve got a couple thoughts regarding the OS release media I wanted to throw out to you all. These are just things I was pondering and by no means I’m I saying any of these are going to happen. They are just some ideas I’d like to share with you and get feedback on… As you know, the