Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-02 Thread Alain M.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? But a commercial app still cannot _statically_ link to it in that case; only dynamically. No, that's the GPL. The LGPL explicitely permits static links to the library for all applications.

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 31-Июл-2006 17:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Imre Leber) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: IL But still it would have been nice to have this kind of compiler when I was IL searching for one before I started writing on FreeDOS. I think this compiler IL might even be better than the one I

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 31-Июл-2006 15:45 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain M.) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: The problem may then be that openwatcom is not GPL licensed. And it is still controlled by a big company that would most likely not want to listen to issues from the FreeDOS project. AM In my

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Blair Campbell
GPL also free for _any_ use (binaries). And, for example, you may compile commercial apps by GCC. BUT IIRC if you compile commercial apps with GCC and don't want to make source available, you have to dynamically link (not possible under DOS except with DJGPP)

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Mark Bailey
Alain M. wrote: Arkady V.Belousov escreveu: GPL also free for _any_ use (binaries). And, for example, you may compile commercial apps by GCC. That is what the comercial says. the hard reality is that you have problems with the lib which cannot be used, with GCC you have worse

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Blair Campbell
Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? But a commercial app still cannot _statically_ link to it in that case; only dynamically. Mark - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Alain M.
Mark Bailey escreveu: Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? There is nowhere to be seen any licence for glibc, not even in it's site. But even in LGPL it is a problem: you have to use the systems's version and it brings many compatibility problems Alain

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Hall
Blair Campbell wrote: Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? But a commercial app still cannot _statically_ link to it in that case; only dynamically. Specifically, the GNU LGPL says this in its preamble: For example, [..] If you link other code

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Hall
Alain M. wrote: Mark Bailey escreveu: Isn't glibc licensed under the Lesser GPL (LGPL) for this very reason? There is nowhere to be seen any licence for glibc, not even in it's site. But even in LGPL it is a problem: you have to use the systems's version and it brings many

[Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Wesley Parish
I found it at: http://www.desmet-c.com/ The Compiler has been placed under the GNU GPL, and the library has been placed under the GNU LGPL. I'm wondering if anyone in the FreeDOS project is considering adopting it for (really) small distributions? Thanks Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Imre Leber
, July 31, 2006 10:28 AM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL I found it at: http://www.desmet-c.com/ The Compiler has been placed under the GNU GPL, and the library has been placed under the GNU LGPL. I'm wondering if anyone

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Blair Campbell
Does openwatcom support overlays? Yes. Maybe we should keep this around. I would definitely be interested in its compatibility with the Borland family of compilers, as this could be improved in OpenWatcom. BTW, OpenWatcom is also a commercial-quality 16-bit compiler :-). -- Fall is my

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Imre Leber
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 07:06 PM To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL Does openwatcom support overlays? Yes. Maybe we should keep this around. I would definitely be interested in its

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Ralf A. Quint
At 10:06 AM 7/31/2006, Blair Campbell wrote: Maybe we should keep this around. I would definitely be interested in its compatibility with the Borland family of compilers, as this could be improved in OpenWatcom. BTW, OpenWatcom is also a commercial-quality 16-bit compiler :-). I did use

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Alain M.
Imre Leber escreveu: The problem may then be that openwatcom is not GPL licensed. And it is still controlled by a big company that would most likely not want to listen to issues from the FreeDOS project. In my understanding, OW has a *better* licence than GPL, it is free for comercial

Re: [Freedos-devel] DeSmet C compiler available under GPL

2006-07-31 Thread Blair Campbell
before I started writing on FreeDOS. I think this compiler might even be better than the one I am currently using (turbo C++ 1.01). Well, I did some testing and its C library is severly limited and non-standard, and the code it produces seems much larger than Turbo C[++] (4kb for a simple void