[Freedos-kernel] Commit 1705

2012-02-07 Thread C. Masloch
Hi,

Commit 1705 renames a particular LoL field CPULevel and adds a comment  
correctly claiming that MS-DOS sets this field to 1 on 386+ CPUs and to 0  
otherwise. The commit however makes the boot loader store the detected CPU  
level (0, 1, 2, or 3) there instead. I don't think it's necessary to use  
the field in an incompatible manner, and neither is the new 21.33  
subfunction that the commit adds, because no one uses it yet. Even so, the  
subfunction does not require using that particular field to store the  
detected CPU level.

Regards,
C. Masloch

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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Regarding commit 1702 (large sector sizes)

2012-02-07 Thread Tom Ehlert
Dear PerditionC,

UBYTE DiskTransferBuffer[MAX_SEC_SIZE];

wastes 3,5 KB low memory for *everybody*, not only when it's needed.
regarding how much time we have spend until we had 64 byte free
I think this is a bad idea

I also think that these experiments should NOT be in the stable
branch.

fork it, and make another 'unstable' branch if you want to experiment,
but don't experiment with code that is supposed to be stable.

Regards, Tom


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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Commit 1705

2012-02-07 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Chris, Jeremy,

 Commit 1705 renames a particular LoL field CPULevel and adds a comment  
 correctly claiming that MS-DOS sets this field to 1 on 386+ CPUs and to 0  
 otherwise. The commit however makes the boot loader store the detected CPU  
 level (0, 1, 2, or 3) there instead. I don't think it's necessary to use  
 the field in an incompatible manner, and neither is the new 21.33  

I totally agree. Reporting 386 versus older is more compatible and
good enough. Only in rare cases when you want to know exactly, you
would have to fall back to a tool such as CPULEVEL, but for a kernel
flag, 32 bit CPU is exact enough information :-)

 subfunction that the commit adds, because no one uses it yet. Even so,

You do not need an unused API function to read a rarely read field
because the very few tools interested in the field can read LoL :-)

 the subfunction does not require using that particular field to store
 the detected CPU level.

Even that... And by the way, I agree with Tom that flexible sector
sizes are a bit shaky and the default compile should use 512 byte.

However, a CONFIG.SYS option to modify the max sector size at boot
would be a good compromise between hardcoding this at compile time
and spending code and effort on automatic sizing at boot initdisk.

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-kernel] Regarding commit 1702 (large sector sizes)

2012-02-07 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Tom Ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de wrote:
 Dear PerditionC,

    UBYTE DiskTransferBuffer[MAX_SEC_SIZE];

 wastes 3,5 KB low memory for *everybody*, not only when it's needed.
 regarding how much time we have spend until we had 64 byte free
 I think this is a bad idea


please see my previous messages, I know exactly how much space is
wasted and clearly stated this along with statement 512 will be
default (and was already changed to such earlier)


 I also think that these experiments should NOT be in the stable
 branch.

 fork it, and make another 'unstable' branch if you want to experiment,
 but don't experiment with code that is supposed to be stable.

 Regards, Tom


These are not experiments, this is me working to improve compatibility
with MSDOS and existing though rare disks.  I purposely left a default
value larger than needed so I could track down a kernel issue with
memory allocation during initialization.  This issue still exists and
I believe may be one of the reasons  why there are occasional reports
of invalid opcode/crash during boot.

MSDOS sets the value based on known devices during startup, this is
documented in books describing it.  The FD kernel has been hardcoded
for 512 bytes.  My plan was first to ensure sizes  512 bytes work
then make the changes to allow user to choose larger size than 512 so
only those who need the different value are penalized with increased
memory usage and can use FD kernel with their drive while everyone
else only has minimally larger kernel but more like MSDOS.  Part 1,
the changes so sizes 512 can be used was committed and uncovered a
memory allocation issue.  I put part 2 on hold because this seemed
important to find - instead I will leave the 512 hard coded which
rarely triggers the bug.

The experimental 4K build is based on my forked 0xdc (DOSC OEM id)
kernel, and it is where I do most of my changes before merging/testing
with the 0xfd kernel.

Jeremy.

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