On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 08:11:48PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi ZB,
>
> > 1. I believe it would be handy if it could immediately after its start
> > perform 'r' (show registers' contents). Usually we're going to have
> > a look at that first when using "debug
1. I believe it would be handy if it could immediately after its start
perform 'r' (show registers' contents). Usually we're going to have
a look at that first when using "debug". Even if we aren't - having
these two lines on the screen immediately after start won't do any harm.
2. It could
Just to make sure: I'm afraid DOS rather won't recognize DVD-R/W connected
to SATA - and I have to use PATA drive to read CD-ROM-s directly under DOS?
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(see "Files Section")
it seems it may be interesting to some
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 01:50:42PM +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> On 25/03/2020 12:28, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote:
> > Afaik there is no Linux that will run with only 8 MB of RAM.
>
> Extract from the Debian Buzz FAQ:
>
> "Debian Linux can be installed on systems with only 4 MBytes of RAM.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:47:33AM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
> It's amazing to me that so many people still use 486s with FreeDOS.
For most DOS applications 486 is kind of "numbercruncher" - and, besides,
if you use Intel 486 CPU you'll get fanless "silent PC" (AMD 486 requires
fan; I mean at least
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 12:46:28AM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> CD-ROM connected to controllers on the sound card
> might be overlooked by generic drivers.
They usually _will_ be "overlooked" - unless such soundcard has a jumper,
that can make the storage device, connected to its controller,
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 07:38:36AM +0200, Alex Alexandru wrote:
> Hi there,
> I installed FreeDOS on a Atom laptop. I want to run the Impulse Tracker
> music production software. (
If you want to "produce" any sounds with DOS - find a motherboard that has
at least one ISA slot and get some
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 07:52:05PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Anyone know if the qt platform can be used to create DOS ports of programs?
> www.qt.io
My guess is its creators will know it for sure. Why not query them directly?
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 04:25:38PM -0600, Rugxulo wrote:
> IIRC, trying IDLEHALT under virtual machine (MetaDOS) showed
> noticeable improvement, at least sitting at the prompt doing nothing
> (Win7 Task Manager). But of course any app (e.g. text editor) polling
> incessantly wouldn't take
I also tested older FreeCOM version 0.82 - somehow it doesn't pass my
autoexec.bat. My machine looked like locked up with that obsolescent version.
I was able to "single-step" through autoexec.bat, but at the very end - after
last line of autoexec.bat - there's no command prompt. System looks like
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 05:08:51PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> As you say your PC fails to idle while just waiting at
> the command prompt: Your command.com is a version of
> FreeCOM, I guess? Which version?
OK, one more:
just did quick-test of newest available FreeCOM binaries:
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 05:08:51PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> As you say your PC fails to idle while just waiting at
> the command prompt: Your command.com is a version of
> FreeCOM, I guess? Which version? Any hypervisors or
> virtual computers or similar running "around" DOS?
OK, forgot one
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 05:08:51PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> As you say your PC fails to idle while just waiting at
> the command prompt:
Update: just a minute ago I noticed that at last after I called fdapm again
it reported: "CPU was idle 5% of the time" - just "out of the blue".
It was
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:33:45PM -0500, dmccunney wrote:
> What hardware are you running, where you have four fans in
> the box and it's still not enough to prevent a system halt because the
> CPU overheated?
It's Athlon XP 3000+ on Asrock mobo, my fans are on CPU, power supply,
graphics
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 05:08:51PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> > So how can I check idle statistics, if not using FDAPM?
>
> I mean try using FDAPM without using IDLEHALT.
I don't see any difference - and, actually, I didn't even expect any.
If with IDLEHALT my CPU doesn't take any "breaks" - why
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 02:21:24PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> Hi! Idlehalt is just a small routine, it may
> not contribute to the idle statistics shown
> by FDAPM.
So how can I check idle statistics, if not using FDAPM?
> I guess it might even make those
> look lower if you use both in
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:59:42PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote:
> You can always use HLT to save power, which both FDAPM
> and the kernel IDLEHALT support even on older-than-APM
> systems. The kernel config sys option can be either
>
> IDLEHALT=1 to use HLT when the kernel is waiting
> IDLEHALT=2 to
I can recall a longer time ago I asked a question about this, and the tip
was to use "FDAPM ADV:REG".
Unfortunately it seems FDAPM most probably supports only APM, which isn't
present in BIOS-es of (most of) post-2000 motherboarda anymore. When I get
its status by simply typing "fdapm" it
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 03:30:50PM +, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
> Old to MS DOS, but newbie to FreeDOS. Is there a webserver written and run
> purely on FreeDOS? I have done a few searches, but don't see anything in the
> various apps sites. Thanks.
You can use TCL for DOS (I guess
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 01:31:17PM +, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
> > If I'm correct, there is "dd" port for DOS. So per analogiam (to Linux)
> > it
> > must be something like this:
> >
> > dd bs=512 count=2880 if=a: of=imgfile.img
> >
> > Didn't try the above
>
> Never even though about
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 01:12:10PM +, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
> How can you make disk images of floppies? Thanks.
If I'm correct, there is "dd" port for DOS. So per analogiam (to Linux) it
must be something like this:
dd bs=512 count=2880 if=a: of=imgfile.img
Didn't try the above
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On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 08:58:11PM +, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
> Indeed, indeed, ZB. You hit the nail right on the head. Hmmm, or should I
> say, "missed the nail completely." I remember back in the days, when my A1000
> use to load a full OS with two floppies,
On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 07:52:44PM +, Jose Isaias Cabrera wrote:
> I agree. I downloaded Rufus, and loved the lightness of it. And then,
> I said, "Let me try etcher," and it took 1.49 minutes to download.
> I thought it was a site far away. Then I saw why. Thanks.
Must be that rufus has
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 12:59:58PM +0300, Ivan Ivanov wrote:
> Sorry I'm late. I think may ask an additional [Y/N] question about
> this access before doing it.
Actually why do you need such question? DOS isn't going to access your HDDs
on its own. You will have to do it on purpose. Until you do
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 06:00:24PM -0500, Jerome Shidel wrote:
> But, there is really no need to correct the question. Based on the responses,
> the communities views on the
> subject were very clearly in favor of permitting HDD access.
Protect us from excessive protection
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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:27:54AM -0500, Jerome Shidel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I???m just looking to do quick poll on you thoughts and opinion.
>
> When FreeDOS 1.3 is booted as a Live environment from the CD-ROM, should it
> be permitted access to any internal hard drive(s)?
>
> Allowing access,
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 05:09:50PM -0500, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> The different OS's all use the same ram. I just change the chip
> then boot. One computer, many OS's. Just change the
> chip - easy. If there were a problem, certainly one of
> them would report it.
OK - it's what _I_ would do
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 04:46:43PM -0500, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> I use cf chips and run many OS's. None are showing
> any problems.
I meant RAM - not your Compact Flash "HDD replacement"
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 04:33:07PM -0500, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> I have 2gigs of drive space used. It seems that move for
> some reason thinks the drive is full. I tried the copy
> command today and it worked. I don't understand it.
Maybe it's RAM-related issue? Faulty RAM may make programs
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:01:37AM -0500, Dale E Sterner wrote:
> Have you noticed that move, copy & xcopy refuse
> to work on files bigger than 3 meg.
Just out of curiosity I created a ZIP archive of almost 4 MB size - and
I don't see any problems with copy neither with move. I can copy/move
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 02:03:06PM +, Michael C Robinson wrote:
> ReactOS won't replace Windows 9x/ME because it is not dos based.
Try WINE under Linux ( https://www.winehq.org/ )
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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:05:04AM -0700, Ralf Quint wrote:
> These are two totally different worlds! The only way you could get FreeDOS
> to run on a RPi is after installing one of the default Linux versions to
> install QEMU, which is an x86 emulator and install FreeDOS within that
> virtual
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 09:14:26AM -0700, dmccunney wrote:
> The "killer app" for TCL is Expect, a TCL script from Don Libes
I'm aware of that, personally using TCL/Tk since more than 10 years. But,
sadly, that 10 years ago there was _much_ more "movement" on comp.lang.tcl
than today... and
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:34:36AM -0400, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote:
> Do you know if this includes BLT?
>
> This clown speaks for himself
If the above was about me, I really have no idea, why you called me like that.
Do you really think that presently TCL has such strong presence among coders
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:25:43AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote:
> Tcl is a script language originally created by Dr. John Ousterhout, who is
> currently a Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University.
Thanks!
I'm actually somewhat amazed, how underestimated TCL/Tk nowadays is
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 05:13:06PM +0200, Thalis Agáth??n wrote:
>I forgot to add browsing to this list.
>[..]
>On a 25 year old PC, I think Freedos can potentially do all of this except
>browsing with CSS3, flash, JS, etc
So you may want to try OpenBSD
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On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 04:59:52PM +0200, Thalis Agáth??n wrote:
>dont you think browsing performance is essentially a hardware matter?
Not really - it depends on software side too. And maybe even more on the
software used by pages' designer (say is it HTML/PHP - or Javascript, for
example).
I gave you some more options you may be interested in - then to decide which
tool is better for which of your aims.
For gaming surely DOS is best option - and it's also very good option for
many other aims (just have a look at Vetusware's contents available for you
for free).
For everything
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 04:08:14PM +0200, Thalis Agáth??n wrote:
>Thanks!
>Â
>Interesting!
>Â
>However I forgot to mention one great benefit of Freedos: the games. Some
>of those other systems may give access to games but the games will be
>using way more resources
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0200, Thalis Agáth??n wrote:
>I am coming from a neo-luddism standpoint which is not anti tech but
>tech-sceptic.
>Â
>I would like to see an OS that can do all the essential stuff with 25
>year old hardware.
You may want to check also:
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 09:35:10PM -0500, Jon Brase wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I have an old 1995-vintage pentium system running a triple-boot of Debian,
> MS-DOS 6.22, and Windows 95. I would like to install FreeDOS along side MS-DOS
You can create 2 separate DOS partitions - and use GRUB to
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 12:15:44PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote:
> Fixed it...
>
> Here is a download link for Tcl 8.4.20 built using DJGPP with Ck and Sqlite.
>
> https://archive.org/download/tcl-8.4.20-for-dos
Wow! Thanks a lot :)
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On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 08:56:41AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote:
> Some day i would like to benchmark the DOS port of SQLite versus databases
> such as Foxpro and Paradox. I understand these are not fair comparisons
> because those old DOS databases supported the 8086. It is a technical
> marvel
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 11:49:07AM -0400, dmccunney wrote:
> You use TCL/Tk to create wrappers for stuff you write in other
> languages. Doing the framework and UI in TCL/Tk will dramatically
> reduce development time.
Indeed - but not just for this. One can create complete advanced application
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 11:18:42AM -0400, dmccunney wrote:
> It's available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X
...and for all BSDs.
In fact today it's not just "Tool Command Language" - but one can create
nice application using just TCL/Tk (and some of plenty of packages created
for it during past
On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 11:52:35AM -0700, Ben Collver wrote:
> On your suggestion i built Tcl 8.4.20 using DJGPP, but it crashes somewhere
> in TclpSetInitialEncodings(). It seems to recurse infinitely, similar to
> the problem described below [1]. In case you are interested, you can find
> an
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 12:55:38PM -0700, Ben Collver wrote:
> I recently built Tcl for DOS using DJGPP. This is based on the work of
> Georg Potthast and Viktor Wagner. These builds include Ck and Sqlite. Below
> are download links for Tcl 8.5.19 and Tcl 8.6.9.
Interesting. Perhaps it would
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 07:58:06PM -0400, HTV04 . wrote:
> I searched on Vogons, but I couldn???t find anything on what my problem is,
> even when searching about my BIOS. I really don???t know what to do here.
Just took a quick glance at that forum and I can see a thread obviously
related to
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 07:58:06PM -0400, HTV04 . wrote:
> I searched on Vogons, but I couldn???t find anything on what my problem is,
> even when searching about my BIOS. I really don???t know what to do here.
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:06:14AM -0400, HTV04 . wrote:
> I checked pcisleep on my computer and I saw that the ESS SOLO-1 was on port
> 10. How do I ???kick??? the SOLO-1 to a different port? I have a most likely
> outdated Phoenix BIOS, and I saw nothing about PCI configuration, only I/O
>
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 04:18:30PM -0400, HTV04 . wrote:
> How do I do this? Is there any way to do it without opening up my computer?
> How do I get the BLASTER variable to match my hardware? I heard the SB
> interrupt (which I assume means Sound Blaster interrupt) needs to be 5. How
> can I
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 08:34:34PM +0200, Csányi Pál wrote:
> Can I isntall on this machine the FreeDOS by using floppy disks only?
This will be cumbersome - but that's the way DOS was being installed during
"good(?) old days". ;)
You need to install FreeDOS on some other machine first, then
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:33:29PM +, Bret Johnson wrote:
> FWIW, I prefer NASM myself also. I started out using A86/A386 a long
> time ago (before NASM and FASM even existed in a useful form) but my
> source code eventually got too big for A86 to handle. A86 doesn't take
> advantage of
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 04:53:26PM +0200, C. Masloch wrote:
> I needed something similar in my lDebug symbolic anyway, so I created a
> quick patch to add a Y command in my fork of FreeDOS's DEBUG. You give
> it a filename (LFN or SFN, use double quote marks if to escape blanks)
> and it pushes
For testing small snippets of ML code "debug" is quite enough. But the
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On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 10:16:52AM -0400, dmccunney wrote:
> No, I simply think the point in the article was wrong, based on
> experience with the platform,
>
> Your mileage obviously varies.
I was using Commodore 64 (then C-128) since May (or June) 1985 - and I don't
share your feelings.
For
Everything you've written in your post is *totally* missing the point
presented in the article I gave link to.
It's just your private impression "how it was using C-64 IMHO" - thanks for
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On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 09:05:35PM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
> We're talking about the host platform, not the target. Yes, you can still
> assemble with NASM (or YASM or FASM) for 8086 target, but none of those
> assemblers themselves can (easily) be rebuilt to run hosted on 16-bit
> machines
On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 09:43:45PM +0200, C. Masloch wrote:
> >> (While we still get DJGPP builds, there haven't been any 8086 builds
> >> since 2005's 0.98.39.)
> >
> > Actually, why? Are all of these programs that large - or there are some
> > significant advantages in providing them as DJGPP
On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 12:49:16AM -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
> Which assembler?
> [..]
Thanks.
> (While we still get DJGPP builds, there haven't been any 8086 builds
> since 2005's 0.98.39.)
Actually, why? Are all of these programs that large - or there are some
significant advantages in providing
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 03:41:22PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
> They support other operating systems, too.
Which one of both you prefer - and why?
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