Re: [Freedos-user] Accessing real floppy drive after booting the LiveCD

On Fri, 20 Aug 2021, Travis Siegel wrote: There are multiple issues here. First, if you want to use both floppy drives, your floppy cable must have both connections on it, since there is rarely more than a single floppy controller slot on a motherboard. A quick note on this - if the

Re: [Freedos-user] tunein.com and freedos?

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021, Karen Lewellen wrote: we shall see what I can and cannot do legally. Karen's gonna Karen I guess. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021, Jim Hall wrote: We could bolt on a graphical desktop environment onto FreeDOS, but the "graphical desktop" discussion never goes anywhere. Some people want *this* GUI and others want *that* GUI. We have three graphical desktops for FreeDOS: SEAL, oZone and OpenGEM. None are

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021, TK Chia wrote: Hello Johnpaul Humphrey, All the things he finds objectionable I would have called FEATURES. He would do better on Ubuntu. Me, I am not so sure. That was from Laaca --- a developer of DOS programs himself. He also mentions that he had been "using DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] Spaghetti

On Thu, 28 Jan 2021, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: I have been editing the OpenGEM code. It's a dog's breakfast! First it assumes that I didn't put the OpenGEM directory where I did. Then it cross-references jumps between batch files in an opaque way. And the writes to screen do not say where you

Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 09:34:41 -0600 Doctor Vell wrote: Just curious is there a GUI for FreeDOS like Windows 3.1 is to MS DOS? don't know if it still exists but there's GEM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEM_(desktop_environment) Google "FreeGEM" or

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft Open-Sources GW-BASIC

On Fri, 22 May 2020, Deposite Pirate wrote: This cannot be compiled to machine code because it's some kind of meta assembler to generate assembler for various processor architectures and this meta assembler is apparently not available. So unless someone goes through the pain of reverse

Re: [Freedos-user] C: location

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, RJ Givens wrote: I figured that part out. Now my issue is ATIFLASH says there is no card detected. Any insight on that? You cannot update the physical video card from within a virtual machine. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one

Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS - license issue, not included in FreeDOS 1.3?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, tom ehlert wrote: Hallo Herr userbeit...@abwesend.de, https://www.4dos.info/sources.htm "The Software, or any portion of it, may not be compiled for use on any operating system OTHER than FreeDOS…" unfortunately this is not compatible with GPL(any version). and was

Re: [Freedos-user] DOSBOX isn't for everyone...

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, Felix Miata wrote: dmccunney composed on 2020-03-24 13:30 (UTC-0400): mich...@robinson-west.com wrote: Linux won't run on a 286 or XT by the way. *Unix* didn't run on a 286. There were a couple of attempts (including one from AT) that died horribly due to lack of

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS version control

On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, tom ehlert wrote: On 16/02/2020 22:54, tom ehlert wrote: doing programming *on* DOS in 2020 is just stupid. Why would that be more stupid than programming *for* DOS in 2020? A hobby is a hobby. ok. replace 'stupid' by 'inefficient' in the sense that there are easier

Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, Ralf Quint wrote: interest to open source ANY part of ANY windows. Even Windows 1.x and 2.x, which are on GitHub now, are still copyrighted. So it all comes Copyright has nothing to do with how "open" something is. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007

Re: [Freedos-user] Source code to Windows 9x and ME...

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019, R Moog wrote: There is another way but it's still a hassle for MS. Ask them nicely. If they decide to follow up on the request then the ball is in their court to make it happen. Ideally, you'd find someone that works there that could be an advocate for the process. If

[Freedos-user] 86Box images.

For those that want to play with 86Box, I've created a FreeDOS disk image for you to play with: http://www.geneb.org/86box/FreeDOS Machine.7z I've also got an "ultimate DOS development system" image put together with a ton of development tools installed on it. Unfortunately, this one boots

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, st...@vwebr.net wrote: Not making any assumptions at all, and frankly it sounds interesting. Merely trying to understand what it is in comparison to Virtualbox and VMWare, or DOSBox. If it's a virtual machine app meant to install an OS into like the first two, then of

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, st...@vwebr.net wrote: Asking the question a different way. Is there another virtual app (alternatives to Virtualbox or VMWare) that does a much better job supporting DOS hardware which I can install FreeDOS onto? That's what 86Box does - it supports a huge range of

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Jim Hall wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:07 AM geneb wrote: I've found that 86Box is probably the best PC emulator out there. It's basically a PC emulated at the hardware level for a number of different motherboard chipsets. It actually uses original BIOS ROMs

Re: [Freedos-user] can FreeDOS do anything to make up for Virtualbox and VMWare's lack of decent support for DOS sound?

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Jon Brase wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:18:18 -0600 st...@vwebr.net wrote: This is kind of a sore point when using Windows-based virtualization apps. Virtualbox (and I believe VMWare) support SoundBlaster 16, but only to a certain extent (as in later versions of

Re: [Freedos-user] why isn't anyone answering my question?

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019, Dale E Sterner wrote: NTFS & exfat are microsoft inventions. Not many people understand NTFS much less be able to read it with non microsoft software. I think its This is news to Linux and all the BSD variants. They've been able to read & write NTFS and exfat

Re: [Freedos-user] solved! was ot: run time issues?

On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2019, geneb wrote: Use this: http://www.pcmicro.com/elebbs/faq/rte200.html While the download link for patchcrt referenced on that page fails, I googled Then your browser is broken. ;) The link works just fine - I tested

Re: [Freedos-user] ot: run time issues?

On Thu, 13 Jun 2019, Ralf Quint wrote: I just had a quick look and did not find that program to patch 3rd party programs where I thought I had a copy of it. I had bought Borland Pascal 7.01 with the library source code back in those days and simply fixed the offending section of the

[Freedos-user] Crescent Software docs...

...are now all scanned and OCRed. The Crescent Software downloads can be found here: http://annex.retroarchive.org/crescent g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect

Re: [Freedos-user] ZanySoft ZDir goes FOSS

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018, Robert Riebisch wrote: Hi all, upon my request Chris Kirmse recently open-sourced his popular directory lister from the early 1990s. ZDir home page is still at , but you can get the source from . Source code

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatiblity...

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, stecdose wrote: I use Borland C++ 3.1 and NASM on FreeDOS on Pentium MMX 233 with 64MB RAM, this works quite well. Never had any problems. I guess, there will be no problems. Maybe old development tools won't work with a 120GB partition. If this is my box, I would install

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS compatiblity...

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, stecdose wrote: What compatiblity exactly are you talking about? FreeDOS to hardware, existing DOS-programs to FreeDOS or both? Software. The hardware is a P166 that's pretty bog standard. Software: DOS 6.22 compatiblity is given, though someone can't say for sure that

[Freedos-user] Retroarchive update...

(This has also been posted on the cctalk list, but I figured there are some folks on this list that would be interested as well.) First up is the addition of Crescent Software's entire product line. The company produced a number of good library suites in the late 80s and early 90's. Note

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Sun, 30 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: On 9/30/2018 10:18 AM, geneb wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: I couldn't care less about .NET, it's pretty much a non-portable, dead-end technology, just years behind the curve. A lot of former Java fanatics (for which .NET became

Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 1.1 and 2.0 ...now open source?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018, Ralf Quint wrote: I couldn't care less about .NET, it's pretty much a non-portable, dead-end technology, just years behind the curve. A lot of former Java fanatics (for which .NET became a substitute once M$ could not get to terms with Sun) have jumped that ship already

Re: [Freedos-user] Tandy 1000 compatibility

On Sat, 21 Jul 2018, Thomas Mueller wrote: I researched Tandy and Tandy 1000 on Wikipedia. It looks pretty obsolete, and it would be difficult to impossible to find compatible accessories such as keyboard, mouse, hard drive and other peripherals. Many (if not all) of the Tandy 1000

Re: [Freedos-user] Xtalk RS232 USB was: copywrites

On Thu, 12 Jul 2018, Eric Auer wrote: 1, 2, 4 or 8 data lines :-) The problem is that it is apparently UNETHICAL to use that chip, because the company seems to use drivers which deliberately destroy clones of their chips?? If you can tell me something about those rumors, I would be interested.

Re: [Freedos-user] Networking without ethernet?

On Jul 10, 2018, 1:23 PM, David McMackins wrote: Even if I did, that doesn't answer my question. Even if I get connected to dial-up, will TCP/IP applications still work, or will they complain about drivers since they are trying to access a NIC? David, you might be well served by looking into

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Wed, 4 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: The bad thing about Crosstalk is that it only works on RS232 now extinct. At work I'd splice in an extra link on RS232 lines to our samplers. Xtalk was able to capture secret command codes known only to the factory. With them I could control the

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: If I was a drug copany or inventor; I'd try to get a copyright rather then a patent. I'd type the description out on a type writter an register it. No generic drugs for years. That's not how Copyright works. Please use Google. g. -- Proud owner of

Re: [Freedos-user] [Freedos-user} copywrites

On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: I can see I found a real expert. So what is the point of having a copyright office. We could save a lot of tax money getting rid of it. Also why don't they do patents the same way. Then is there anything out there that is public domain. For certain

Re: [Freedos-user] XMODEM-compatible terminal software

On Sun, 1 Jul 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: I only know what the report said. Laws may have changed. A woman I know who writes music said she has to renew her stuff once in awhile. How can you have a copywrite if you don't register it with some goverment some where. *sigh* I give up. g. --

Re: [Freedos-user] XMODEM-compatible terminal software

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: Copywrite office replied that they couldn't find any record of it. It was old and they purged it. Copywrites can last almost forever if you keep renewing it. I had to pay for their reseach time; at least it wasn't a fortune. I was sweating a $1,000

Re: [Freedos-user] XMODEM-compatible terminal software

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, jamie marchant wrote: Does it not very from country to country? CrossTalk was made by MicroPro (if memory serves), which is a US company. That being said, copyright law has been sufficiently corrupted world-wide that you will be dead before anything created in your

Re: [Freedos-user] DISKCOPY to disk larger than image

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: Try xcopy instead. xcopy doesn't work with disk images. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks

Re: [Freedos-user] XMODEM-compatible terminal software

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: For file transfers I always used Crosstalk (aka xtalk) for file transfers. Its very hard to find anywhere. If you do find it; there isn't any copyright left on it. I paid the copywrite office $20 to tell me that. I'd love to have the source code for

Re: [Freedos-user] DISKCOPY to disk larger than image

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, David McMackins wrote: You're right that dd just moves data. But the fact that by merely moving data it creates what appears to DOS to be a 720k file system that it can read and navigate correctly demonstrates that it's not a hardware problem. There is no problem here.

Re: [Freedos-user] DISKCOPY to disk larger than image

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, David McMackins wrote: But if I use dd on my Linux box, DOS sees it as a 720k filesystem. It doesn't appear to be a hardware limitation. This seems like a software limitation or bug. The dd program doesn't care what the input or output is, it just moves the data. The

Re: [Freedos-user] DISKCOPY to disk larger than image

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018, David McMackins wrote: DISKCOPY throws an error if I try to copy a 720k image to a 1.44M diskette. I couldn't find a flag that could do it. I tried setting the size to 720, but that threw a different error. You need to use 720k media. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007

Re: [Freedos-user] XMODEM-compatible terminal software

On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, David McMackins wrote: I managed to get a copy of MS-DOS Kermit. Think that'll work? Only if the transfer protocol you want to use is Kermit. :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go

Re: [Freedos-user] XMODEM-compatible terminal software

On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, cont...@mcmackins.org wrote: I see in the Utilities section there is a VT100 emulator, but from the readme it doesn't seem like it supports XMODEM-protocol data transfer. What software can I get for DOS that supports this? My purpose for this is serial communication with

Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, dmccunney wrote: Best case, you get what Embarcadero once did. They inherited the former Borland DOS products like Turbo-C, and were offering them as unsupported freeware downloads from a community link on their site. There was no *paying* market for the DOS stuff, but

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, Jim Hall wrote: While I know that this helped a specific user request, I'd appreciate that we not share/link to "crack" tools that circumvent copy protection. Even for programs like Telix that aren't supported anymore. Your house, your rules. No problem. :) Free/open

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: I don't know how you found this but it worked like a charm. The big ugly red screen is gone. Many thanks. Some days my Google Fu is pretty strong. ;) I'm glad it worked for you. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: My copy asks for money for a key but noone left to collect it. I used up half my legal trys brfore it shuts down. What was that link again? You can also go here: http://cd.textfiles.com/hackersencyc/PC/CRAKHOUS/FILES.HTM and grab the file called

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: My copy asks for money for a key but noone left to collect it. I used up half my legal trys brfore it shuts down. What was that link again? http://www.retroarchive.org/garbo/pc/termprog/telix351.zip I installed this in dosBox to see what it would do

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Sun, 15 Apr 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: The copy I downloaded does. The download did not include the password. You only have to enter it once then its good foreever. Do you have the password ? No legitimate version of Telix that I've ever seen requires a password. Download the one from the

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, Dale E Sterner wrote: A really good one is xtalk; if you can find it. Procomm is also good; if you can find it. Telex requires a password otherwise it stops working after a few uses. Procomm is nice to look at It's called "Telix", and no it does not stop working or

Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting to a BBS via a modem

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018, David McMackins wrote: I will look into Net-Tamer and Procom. Telix was the software I had found the defunct website for. I'm not sure if I want to trust a mirror. Here you go: http://www.retroarchive.org/garbo/pc/termprog/telix351.zip g. -- Proud owner of F-15C

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH - unsupported remote protocol version

On Tue, 2 Jan 2018, Dan Schmidt wrote: Drat! Somebody finally caught onto to my evil plan to covertly make Linux servers insecure! Foiled again! You will this one, Tom, but I'll be back!! Oh, I'LL BE BACK!! You can almost hear him adjust his monocle while petting a white persian cat. ;)

Re: [Freedos-user] Some driver updates

On Sat, 4 Nov 2017, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: Isn't that exactly what JPSoftware did with 4DOS? And speaking of it, 4DOS isn't free - it is specifically restricted to FreeDOS, which makes it non-free. Which is basically nonsense because the person that released the software

Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017, Ralf Quint wrote: There are however patents on the way long file names are implemented on FAT32 (https://www.google.com/patents/US5579517?dq=5,579,517, https://www.google.com/patents/US5758352?dq=5,758,352)... As far as I can tell, both of those patents have expired. g.

Re: [Freedos-user] OpenGEM is getting an update after 11 years

On Sat, 8 Jul 2017, Shane Coughlan wrote: Hello FreeDOS community Jim inspired me to take a look at the OpenGEM GUI again. I moved the OpenGEM 6 code and SDK to GitHub. OpenGEM 7 is being prepared. The main focus is stability and simplicity. There is also a much simpler SDK. Shane, it's

[Freedos-user] Borland Pascal unhandled exception...

From: geneb <ge...@deltasoft.com> I recently decided to build myself a nice a fast DOS machine to fiddle with and installed FreeDOS 1.2. I installed Borland Pascal 7 and tried to use it. Nope. :( When I run "bp" which is the protected mode compiler, I get this: Unhandle

Re: [Freedos-user] Borland Pascal unhandled exception...

From: geneb <ge...@deltasoft.com> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, Jerome Shidel wrote: > FYI, there is a typographical error with option 2. It says EMM386. But, it uses JEMM386. > Correct. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-

Re: [Freedos-user] Borland Pascal unhandled exception...

From: geneb <ge...@deltasoft.com> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, Eric Auer wrote: > Looking at older FreeDOS-user discussions, people suggested > using HDPMI16 or DOS32A, for example in resident mode, to > work around issues with the protected mode enviroment used > by BP (and Jazz Ja

Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files)

On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Dale E Sterner wrote: > The win 7 was a 32 bit copy purchased on Amazon. > The software was a dvd converter to convert dvds to mp4. > It didn't work on XP so I wanted to try it on win 7; didn't work > there either. The 1st activation was slow painful and > successful. Win 7

Re: [Freedos-user] Borland Pascal unhandled exception...

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, Eric Auer wrote: > Looking at older FreeDOS-user discussions, people suggested > using HDPMI16 or DOS32A, for example in resident mode, to > work around issues with the protected mode enviroment used > by BP (and Jazz Jackrabbit). Another suggestion was to use > the HIMEMX

[Freedos-user] Borland Pascal unhandled exception...

I recently decided to build myself a nice a fast DOS machine to fiddle with and installed FreeDOS 1.2. I installed Borland Pascal 7 and tried to use it. Nope. :( When I run "bp" which is the protected mode compiler, I get this: Unhandled exception 000E at 0020 A19E ErrCode 0002. Google only