Hello everyone!
I am blown away, in the most positive sense of the word, by the
fruitful discussion my original post seems to have sparked, or
rekindled. For this discussion to have its heated moments is only
natural as emotions, passions and frustrations are involved.
If there is one point of
On 20/03/2020 11:00, Eric Auer wrote:
So I would say if you only need real-time at moments without DOS
kernel (or BIOS) interaction and if you need much RAM directly
available without the hassles of EMS or XMS, then DJGPP is nice!
DJGPP is nice, without question. But here we are talking about
Hi Mateusz, hi speech experts,
>> DJGPP is a complete 32-bit C/C++ development system for Intel
>> 80386 (and higher) PCs running DOS.
> I am saying that DOS is a 16-bit, real-time operating system. You say
> that DJGPP is more powerful. Yes, but DJGPP is not DOS. Then of course,
> one could
Hello Karen,
I will try to keep it on topic.
On 20/03/2020 06:03, Karen Lewellen wrote:
DJGPP is a complete 32-bit C/C++ development system for Intel
80386 (and higher) PCs running DOS.
I am saying that DOS is a 16-bit, real-time operating system. You say
that DJGPP is more powerful. Yes,
Mateusz
Comments in context.
On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Mateusz Viste wrote:
FreeDOS, like other flavors of DOS, is a 16-bit, real-mode operating system.
This means it runs within an extremely constrained environment: typically
with access to a maximum of 640 kilobytes of memory, one taks at a time,
From: Felix G.Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:51 AMTo: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeD OS as a blind user Hello Joseph,I'm loving your live image!However, I'm unsuccessfully trying to find the place
Hello Joseph,
I'm loving your live image!
However, I'm unsuccessfully trying to find the place in fdauto.bat or
fdconfig.sys where it loads asap, because maybe I'd like to replace
asap with hal for kicks, or giggles, or both.
Could you please enlighten me?
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 18. März 2020 um
On 18/03/2020 16:54, joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote:
I just booted into FreeDOS and it worked ok. Pressing /l told me I was
on line 25 and read the DOS prompt.
Sounds nice. Thanks for confirming, at least I know now that it is
supposed to work out of the box. It must be something off with my
Hi: PROVOX loads fine, but it sends only "synth clear" (0x05) reset messages over COM1, for example when I press slash + L. It never sends me anything to actually read aloud. Did it talk to you? What key presses have you performed? I just booted into FreeDOS and it worked ok. Pressing /l told me
On 18/03/2020 16:05, joseph.nor...@gmail.com wrote:
Provox does work, but to install it you do two things.
First, you need to run the provox.exe tsr.
Did that.
Next, at the end of the fdauto.bat, you place a pv.exe command with the
synthesizer perameter after it, for example:
Hi: Now, going back to FreeDOS: the only improvement I can think of is to include some sort of screen reader into the distribution. That is why I was interested in the PROVOX option, since PROVOX appears to have a license perfectly compatible with FreeDOS. Sadly, I was unable to make it output
I'd also like to add that when I speak of a battle, I am in no way
referring to a battle against anyone here, or any FreeDOS developer.
The rather military term was strictly in reference to the effort of
overcoming or circumventing technical limitations.
Best,
Felix
Am Mi., 18. März 2020 um 10:22
Hello everyone,
I'd like to report that I got FreeDOS to work, and speak to me, from a
virtual machine using a speech synthesizer emulator on the host,
thanks to Joseph's kind help in the form of valuable advice and a
great live image with ASAP. I was also able to get files into the VM
by
On 18/03/2020 02:37, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Why cannot speech be built native to freedos the way it is, I
understand, native to Linux distros, including the use of hardware?
FreeDOS, like other flavors of DOS, is a 16-bit, real-mode operating
system. This means it runs within an extremely
sion and general questions about FreeDOS.
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using
FreeD OS as a blind user
Hi Bret,
Thanks for that answer.
Well then my question is if freedos can actually be installed in an
actual, instead of virtual environment??? If not, then
Hi Joseph,
> If your computer can boot a cd, or can boot a floppy, you can install
> FreeDOS.
Booting from USB stick is an option with many
modern BIOSes, too, and supported by FreeDOS.
> I could probably boot it up on this laptop since it's in legacy mode,
> but, I don't think FreeDOS would
for the confusion.Hi Karen: Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Karen LewellenSent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 6:42 PMTo: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS.Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Introducing myself, and inquiring about using FreeD OS as a blind user Hi Bret,Thanks
Hi Bret,
Thanks for that answer.
Well then my question is if freedos can actually be installed in an
actual, instead of virtual environment? If not, then why not?
Because DOS is my only operating system, I have no issues locating
actual computers, by which I mean p3 and p4 machines for my
I may as well jump on the bandwagon here... :D
I find VirtualBox quite easy to set up; most things just work out-of-the box,
whatever the OS you install upon it, and its simple GUI allows even things
which do need a bit of configuration to be handled in a fairly straightforward
manner.
Also -
Karen: Inside a Virtual Machine, ALL hardware is virtualized to some degree or
other -- you never get direct access to the real hardware (whether it's
keyboard or mouse or video screen or hard drive or serial port or even the
clock). Exactly what gets virtualized through to the VM and exactly
But Felix
In many cases, all one needs to do Is grab an old laptop, install ms dos
via cd, attach a dectalk or little talk or doubble talk or reading
edge, or etc. etc., grab the games and enjoy the ride.
i have such a laptop sitting in my office, although I use DOS for far
more than
Bret,
Your points are important for a serious screen reader, because the
commands to access speech, read the current line or sections of the screen,
etc., incorporate those modifier keys. That is done so the screen reader
works in harmony with the system, real ms dos in this case.
My
Which is exactly why I'd love to boot natively into DOS, but as soon
as I do this, my accessibility provisions break down. This is why I
sometimes tend to sound like a grumpy old accessibility evangelist
ranting about how everything is so much more complicated just because
one sensory channel
I'm not sure if it will end up being relevant to this discussion or not, but I
use VMWare version 14 under Windows 10 to create a virtual machine for DOS. I
prefer MS-DOS to FreeDOS for various reasons, though I do use some of the
FreeDOS utilities. I actually have the machine set up to
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