Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Jerome Shidel AUG 15, 2017

[Pierre LaMontagne]

That only supports UHCI-type controllers. So USB is not well supported 
under DOS (due to heavy complexity).


Boo Hiss. Figures.

Although some (modern?) BIOSes can treat a jump drive as hard disk (but 
you can't hotswap / add+remove them, you have to reboot). Your PIII 
might not be new enough for that support, dunno.


I'm pretty sure not… It's not a big deal though (especially since that 
PC is not my sole PC) if USB isn't supported in FD, as long as the 
optical drive works, which it does, thankfully. Sure, a working USB port 
would be nice, but since it doesn't seem to be an option, no biggie.


(Stating the obvious: you may wish to try Linux [old ZipSlack? TinyCore? 
antiX?] or FreeBSD or similar for better USB access.


I already have another PC with Linux Mint installed on a much more 
modern BIOS (about 2 years old). USB on it works well (of course, its 
USB 2.0).


My PIII PC is simply a leftover PC that I resurrected from the closet & 
no longer used to put FD 1.1 on it as a way to be able to use the tons 
of Floppy software on it that I had on HD 3.5s.(I ran a BBS for about 10 
years (until 1996) and amassed quite a collection of floppies.I even 
have some very old 360KB 5.25" floppies). Those were mostly from my 
pre-HD era.:)


Dual booting shouldn't be too hard.)

Not really, but that's something I usually don't consider.Nothing 
against it, it's just not for me unless, of course, it's a have-to case.


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Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

[dmccunney]

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:19 PM, TJ Edmister  wrote:
> MS implemented an arbitrary limit of 32GB for FAT32 volumes, but with
> third-party tools much larger ones are possible (up to 2TB?). Maybe those
> flash cards could be reformatted and used in the camera with FAT32 instead.

The volume size limitation is in the Windows utility that *formats*
the drive.  As of Win2K, 32GB was the size limit.  I believe it's
higher in later versions. The FAT32 file system can handle volumes up
to 2 TiB by default with 512 byte sectors, and up to 16 TiB if 4K disk
sectors are used.  (Being able to *use* 4K sectors is a whole other
hardware issue.)

An issue for cards my be hardware.  For instance, two of my Android
tablets accept external microSD cards up to 32GB.  This is not an
Android limit - it's a hardware limit on the slot the card plugs into.
The slot in the tablet is SDHC.  For larger volume sizes, it would
need to be SDXC.  My production tablet accepts larger volumes, but I
have no present need to do so.

I haven't used Compact Flash cards in years, and don't know the
corresponding limitations.

Dale might well be able to reformat the cards to FAT32 (but not from
DOS!) and siccessfully read them.  But they are his relative's cards
from their cameras, and they might not want that done.

For practical purposes, he's SOL on being able to read his relatives
cards in a DOS system.
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Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

[TJ Edmister]

MS implemented an arbitrary limit of 32GB for FAT32 volumes, but with  
third-party tools much larger ones are possible (up to 2TB?). Maybe those  
flash cards could be reformatted and used in the camera with FAT32 instead.


On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:27:01 -0400, Dale E Sterner   
wrote:



I've seen a hand full of links for newly revised dos
games here.
I could use exFAT support for dos I read camera chips
into dos and play them on QV. I couldn't read my
brother in laws & my cousins new camera chips.
DOS usually dos better with chips. QV is
really good.


DS


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Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017

[Dale E Sterner]

I've seen a hand full of links for newly revised dos
games here.
I could use exFAT support for dos I read camera chips
into dos and play them on QV. I couldn't read my
brother in laws & my cousins new camera chips.
DOS usually dos better with chips. QV is
really good.


DS



On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 14:50:46 -0400 dmccunney 
writes:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Dale E Sterner  
> wrote:
> > Many people like a challenge. The big plus for exFAT
> > is its huge file size and fast operating speed.
> 
> They like a challenge where *they* will benefit from working on it.
> See "scratching a personal itch" in the post you are responding to.
> 
> Find one who uses DOS and needs exFAT support.  Good luck.
> 
> > These people who write DOS games face that
> > difficulty all the time; they might already have
> > some ideas. Time will tell.
> 
> Who still writes DOS games?  Game development has nearly all shifted
> to Windows, with some slopping over onto Linux.
> 
> There are lots of old DOS games still being played, which is why
> DOSBox exists.  I'm unaware of any significant new ones.  Got one to
> point at?,
> 
> > cheers
> > DS
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