Re: [Freedos-user] EDIT 0.7b TO-DO list (from Fox), comments?

2005-05-03 Thread Kristaps Kaupe
 ;-). - there should be alt-number as shortcut for alt-w number, to select
 one of the first 9 editbox windows.

Don't know how to implement, but not having Alt+nn shortcuts is the most 
annoying thing of FreeDOS Edit (and the reason why I was using MS-DOS Editor 
on my FreeDOS box).

 - nothing in the clock time display should blink at all
   ANSWER: easy to implement, depends on whether others agree on that :-).

I agree. One day I maked clock in the corner of my KDE desktop to blink but 
removed that very soon :)

 Cancel OK Yes No messages) and menus.c (the menu tree definition). The
 latter can be tricky as the ~ in there define the hotkeys.

Changing hotkeys in localized versions is not nice but that's very popular 
way. For example, Latvian version of Microsoft Office XP has different 
hotkeys than English versions.

 - the help menu item should be right-aligned on the main menubar

I disagree with this. We don't need 100% M$ interface, we need functionality.

 should directly select an editbox window. COMMENTS WANTED: At the moment,
 Alt-Digit is in use because Alt-Number is the standard way to type special
 chars. Alt-W-Digit might be easy enough anyway. The clock should not blink

MS-DOS Edit allows you to enter 1st ASCII char with Alt+1 only after pressing 
Ctrl+P :)
BTW, FreeDOS Edit (at least 0.6, sorry, don't have later version by the hand) 
do not have this behaviour, what means - you cannot enter 8th ASCII character 
as Alt+8 will always do Backspace.
And special chars is entered only with NumPad digits, not the normal ones.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: EMM386 2.0 Released

2005-05-03 Thread Kristaps Kaupe
 Quite a while ago, when we had the same discussion, I showed you some
 documentation (PC DOS stuff afair?) which explicitly states that you
 can use int 21.01 ... int 21.0c at almost any time. That includes that
 you can use them from within SYS files and from within device init.

 Ah. Here it is. You can use system calls 01H-0CH and 30H during the
 initialization code of the driver. Arkady also clarified that FORSYS
 means for the SYS.COM tool. While you are at it, do not forget to
 fix the wrong call for non-Turbo-C compilers in prf.c, as mentioned.

 PC DOS 7 Tech: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/gg244459.pdf

It is also stated in Advanced MS-DOS Programming book by Ray Duncan 
(published by Microsoft Press).
Download: http://alexfru.narod.ru/miscdocs/adv_dos/adv_dos.zip (very slow 
link)

Quote from chapter 14 Installable device drivers:

The operating-system services that the initialization code can invoke at load 
time are very limited only Int 21H Functions 01H through 0CH and 30H. These 
are just adequate to check the MS-DOS version number and display a 
driver-identification or error message.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Password v0.25 - homepage changed

2005-05-03 Thread Kristaps Kaupe
 Well, we are in DOS, not Unix I don't see clearly the advantages of
 looking into an variable for getting the users/passwords list... Can
 someone explain that to me?

As I said, it is good IMO to have all configuration files at single directory 
not one in C:\FREEDOS\BIN, another in C:\COOLPROG, third in C:\, etc... 
Imagine, you want to reinstall system and back up your configuration from old 
system. Is it easer to copy one directory with subdirectories or search whole 
disk for configuration files you may need?

  Also, good
  thing would be ability to ask PASSWORD to run some other password
  programs after login and automatically enter login and password (if I
  have local and NetWare/SMB login/password the same, I don't want to enter
  password twice).

 No. It's basically impossible, as for security reasons FD Password don't
 stores the user's password anywhere, it just saves its checksum with a SDBM
 hash and then works only on the stored checksums. Maybe you should set on
 NetWare/SMB login=password and then use the USER variable?

How it could not store password entered by user? How then PASSWORD calculates 
hash for entered password? ;)

Having password and username the same is less secure than storing entered 
password for a few seconds in memory after user has entered it.
My idea was, to launch additional login programs after PASSWORD, and write 
entered login and password to their input.

And on some environments users even will not have ability to have SMB/NetWare 
login and password the same, because server will force password change after 
nn logins.

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[Freedos-user] EMM386 2.01

2005-05-03 Thread Fox
Hi,

My today's FreeDOS session looked like that:

RAR 3.2 (RAR32.EXE)
ATOMINO
LAME
MPXPLAY (The DOS32 version)
Jazz - don't ran. Just showed Unhandled exception 000E at 0020 1BEF ErrCode 
0002, but not hanged. Then I wanted to run RAR32 but it frozed up :(

The good news is that RAR32 is working at all (don't worked with the EMM386 
1.5) :-)

Fox


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[Freedos-user] Re: Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-03 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Michael...

 todo.txt emm386.txt and emm386.lsm are all outdated
 Not my file, not my file, and fully up to date.

Sorry. Did not mean to annoy you. So: Tom, could you update those files?
Thanks.

 And DOS/32A unhappy with too much memory...

As I have only 192 MB of physical RAM, I cannot reproduce the 256 MB
limit problems :-). However: You write that DOS extenders can use XMS,
VCPI, DPMI and raw (if no HIMEM/EMM386/DPMI loaded) memory. So: Would
any of the common DOS extenders (pmode/w, dos/16m, dos/4gw, cwsdpmi,
rtm / dpmi16bi, dos32a, which ones did I forget?) have a problem if
you were going to limit the amount of allocateable VCPI memory to the
amount of allocateable EMS, namely 256 MB? I mean, would all DOS
extenders be able to allocate extra RAM from XMS when they find out
that VCPI only offers them 256 MB? Would of course only affect the
non-outdated DOS extenders. Things like Jazz Jackrabbit (RTM) would
not gain anything from having more than 256 MB RAM available anyway...
(There cannot be more than 64k 4k pages of EMS, which equals 256 MB).

I know, you limit EMS size to 32 MB by default, because programs can
get confused if you have more (afair?), but then I still have the same
suggestion: Would any DOS extender get annoyed if only 32 MB of VCPI
memory are available and further allocations have to be taken from XMS?

 I can't run Lemmings [3d] on my machines, period.

Yes, I know. Only telling you my test results. You miss a weird
3d variation of the classic Lemming game that way ;-). By the
way, loading DPMIONE makes the Lemmings 3d hang-at-exit go away,
I think I will investigate that one further. Loading DPMIONE is
no real option as programs which use RTM (Jazz Jackrabbit, AuGoS)
just refuse (no messages) to start while DPMIONE is active. But
maybe I find other methods to make it work without DPMIONE...

That Raptor (DOS/16M) not enough memory (XMIN) error showed up
again, and yet again using RAP /? made it go away. No idea why,
but as long as it works... :-).

Things which I will have to check better: How to make RTM-using
programs work in only HIMEM case without having to use a very
small (31M or so) /max=... value. In particular, I wonder why it
did not help to use /x2max32... Maybe I better allocate 64 MB to
Bochs and debug a bit... Other issue is DOS4GW in only HIMEM
case which crashes if too much RAM is free, too. Will at least
try to find the maximum value for that one. That :24d7 crash GPF
offset seems to be typical for it.

And, by the way: DOS32A did indeed exit without de-allocing a
locked XMS handle for me once, but I could not reproduce and it
only happened while DPMIONE was loaded. Strange. 50+40 MB were
blocked that way. If more people have problems with dangling
allocations, I could write an XMS handle zapper (use at your
own risk, of course ;-)). For EMS, an alloc/list/dealloc/map
interface is even present as part of the DEBUG user interface.

So... let me see... Asking Tom to update the docs. Asking me
myself to try to figure out Lemmings 3d, RTM-blocked-by-DPMIONE,
Raptor DOS/16M sometimes-XMIN, RTM-versus-32MB-versus-X2MAX32,
DOS4GW versus too much XMS problems. Quite a few. Will probably
only manage a part of them. But you are right, problems are
mostly on my side now, and for what you could test and debug,
you have done a very good update in that 0.01 version step :-).

Eric

PS: While DPMIONE is loaded, Descent reported 3.9 GB virtual
(swapfile), even though I have at most 300 MB free on all DOS
partitions together. So DPMIONE creates swap out of blue air :-).



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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386 2.01

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:57 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, Fox wrote:
Jazz - don't ran. Just showed Unhandled exception 000E at 0020 1BEF ErrCode
0002, but not hanged.
Is this that Jazz Jackrabbit thing?  You would be the second person 
reporting a problem there.  Any link to get the DOS version for me to 
test?  I Googled for it, but the DOS link I found actually led to a 
Windows version, as I found after the download.

I'm pretty sure I have/had RAR32, somewhere, but it wasn't in the test 
suite.  I'll have to dig around, see what's stuffed in the test disks.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-03 Thread Florian Xaver
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Have you told this bug to the DPMIONE developer?
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[Freedos-user] emm386 2.01 tested

2005-05-03 Thread Florian Xaver
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Hi!
Now MPXPLAY doesn't shut down at start up, but randomly if i change
directory. I am using the PMODE/W driver. It seems, that PMODE/W has
this problem...
(I am also using it under WinXP and there isn't any problem. Also
without EMM386, there is no problem.)
Hope i can you tell you more tomorrow.
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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386 2.01

2005-05-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

3--2005 12:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Devore) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

MD I'm pretty sure I have/had RAR32, somewhere, but it wasn't in the test

http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarx341.exe




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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS Password v0.5 is out!

2005-05-03 Thread Fox
Hi,

I released the FreeDOS Password v0.5.
Changes (since the 0.25 version):

- The program looks for language files also in %NLSPATH%\%LANG%\password
- Supports for CATS/Kitten language files (was: loading translations from a 
RAW text file specified by %NLSPATH% and %LANG%)
- some minor improvements in the looks of the code.

As always, available for download at 
http://the.killer.webpark.pl/en/password.htm

Best regards,
Fox

P.S. I'm waiting for your opinions about should FD Password looks into an 
directory specified by %ETC% for the users/passwords data?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:59 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
 todo.txt emm386.txt and emm386.lsm are all outdated
 Not my file, not my file, and fully up to date.
Sorry. Did not mean to annoy you. So: Tom, could you update those files?
Thanks.
I don't know what you're talking about, actually.  The first two aren't in 
EMM386 distribution, so I don't know how they would be official files that 
need to be updated.  And I updated the LSM file.  If they aren't in 
official distribution, you are probably out of luck.

amount of allocateable EMS, namely 256 MB? I mean, would all DOS
extenders be able to allocate extra RAM from XMS when they find out
that VCPI only offers them 256 MB?
So why should I cripple VCPI to make your favorite DOS extender 
happy?  There probably exist bare applications -- and possibly a DOS 
extender though I don't know of any -- which allocate entirely through VCPI 
if it's flagged as available.  Anyway, the DOS/32A version with problems is 
7.2.  I re-checked SourceForge and noticed that there is a 7.33, which was 
not mentioned in their announcements.  Another public BB stated that there 
is a 7.4x, but I don't know what/where it is, if so.  If you track down a 
change list, maybe the answer is there.

 Would of course only affect the
non-outdated DOS extenders. Things like Jazz Jackrabbit (RTM) would
not gain anything from having more than 256 MB RAM available anyway...
As far as RTM.  I figured out the problem with AUGOS.  If I slowdown my 
computer to 20% normal, the failure (in the Turbo Pascal compiled code) is 
avoided, apparently the infamous runtime error 200 related to machine speed 
is widely suffered.  At 20% speed AUGOS runs OK under both EMM386 2.01 and 
pure HIMEM with 448M extended memory free.  Both TD and TLINK used an 
updated version of RTM which runs okay in either circumstance, as well.

That Raptor (DOS/16M) not enough memory (XMIN) error showed up
again, and yet again using RAP /? made it go away. No idea why,
but as long as it works... :-).
I'll look at Raptor if you tell me where to get it.  Otherwise, I'm still 
not seeing the problems you are reporting with bare HIMEM and RTM and 
nothing new with EMM386 2.01.


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[Freedos-user] Fox-cubs v0.1 appared!

2005-05-03 Thread Fox
Hi there,

I want to announce that I wrote Fox-cubs v0.1.
It's a Pascal library (TPU unit) which supports using CATS/Kitten formatted 
language files into Pascal programs. With Fox-cube the programmer get a new 
function, called LoadMessage, some technical stuff:

USES FOXCUBS;
FUNCTION LoadMessage(X,Y: ShortInt): String

When called in a program, it search for the language file in three directory:

1. %NLSPATH%\app_name.%LANG%
2. %NLSPATH%\%LANG%\app_name
3. The program's path

If found, it search inside the file for the message with numbers X.Y and 
return it as the function's result. If language file not found, or specified 
number message not found into the file, the function return an empty string.

The unit seems to works great, by the way - I used it into FreeDOS Password 
v0.5 :-)

It's of course under GPL, and have sources included.

Pascal programmers, let's start to support CATS/Kitten with Fox-cubs! (just 
remember to credit me somewhere :-P )

NOTE: The v0.1 don't supports escape codes yet (by the way, who needs them??)

Regards,
Fox


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[Freedos-user] Edlin 2.5 is out!

2005-05-03 Thread Gregory Pietsch
I figure I might as well as make an announcement: Edlin 2.5 is out! I 
added making backup files to Edlin.

If anyone wants to help with the items on Edlin's TODO list, don't 
hesitate to send me a patch.

Gregory Pietsch
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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386 2.01

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Devore
At 08:22 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, Fox wrote:
You found the Jazz 2 game, which is indeed for Windows.
Jazz 1 can be downloaded from http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/game/111
Jazz runs okay for me, at least as far as running the green rodent around 
and shooting things.  Only problem I have with Jazz is the need to run 
SLOWDOWN to get my computer to 20% speed to avoid the Turbo Pascal runtime 
error 200 problem.  Do you have to run SLOWDOWN or another slow-style 
program ot make Jazz work, or is your CPU slow enough it's not a 
problem?  What's your testing CPU?


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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386 2.01

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Devore
At 02:57 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, you wrote:
0002, but not hanged. Then I wanted to run RAR32 but it frozed up :(
The good news is that RAR32 is working at all (don't worked with the EMM386
1.5) :-)
RAR32 also runs okay for me IF I limit free XMS to 429M.  If I have more 
than 429M available, RAR32 say it's out of memory.

Ha!  What is up with these goofball extender limitations?  RAR32 uses RSX 
extender.  I can't decide if there is a weird bug in EMM386 that makes 
DOS/32A unhappy with 256M and RSX 429M, or if the weirdness is in the 
extenders themselves.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Edlin 2.5 is out!

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Hall
Gregory Pietsch wrote:
I figure I might as well as make an announcement: Edlin 2.5 is out! I 
added making backup files to Edlin.

If anyone wants to help with the items on Edlin's TODO list, don't 
hesitate to send me a patch.
Download is here:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/edlin/
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: EMM386 2.01 Bugfix Released

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Hall
Michael Devore wrote:
At 02:59 PM 5/3/2005 +0200, Eric Auer wrote:
 todo.txt emm386.txt and emm386.lsm are all outdated
 Not my file, not my file, and fully up to date.
Sorry. Did not mean to annoy you. So: Tom, could you update those files?
Thanks.

I don't know what you're talking about, actually.  The first two aren't 
in EMM386 distribution, so I don't know how they would be official files 
that need to be updated.  And I updated the LSM file.  If they aren't in 
official distribution, you are probably out of luck.

BTW, I really appreciate it when contributors include an up-to-date LSM 
file in their releases (like Michael has) so I can post it on the 
FreeDOS.org site.  Makes updates a lot easier.

:-)
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Re: [Freedos-user] Fox-cubs v0.1 appared!

2005-05-03 Thread Fox
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 20:43, Fox wrote:
 Hi there,

 I want to announce that I wrote Fox-cubs v0.1.
 It's a Pascal library (TPU unit) which supports using CATS/Kitten formatted
 language files into Pascal programs. With Fox-cube the programmer get a new
 function, called LoadMessage, some technical stuff:

 USES FOXCUBS;
 FUNCTION LoadMessage(X,Y: ShortInt): String

 When called in a program, it search for the language file in three
 directory:

 1. %NLSPATH%\app_name.%LANG%
 2. %NLSPATH%\%LANG%\app_name
 3. The program's path

 If found, it search inside the file for the message with numbers X.Y and
 return it as the function's result. If language file not found, or
 specified number message not found into the file, the function return an
 empty string.

 The unit seems to works great, by the way - I used it into FreeDOS Password
 v0.5 :-)

 It's of course under GPL, and have sources included.

 Pascal programmers, let's start to support CATS/Kitten with Fox-cubs! (just
 remember to credit me somewhere :-P )

 NOTE: The v0.1 don't supports escape codes yet (by the way, who needs
 them??)

Sorry, I forgot to tell the URL :)

http://the.killer.webpark.pl/en/fox-cubs.htm

Fox


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Re: [Freedos-user] EMM386 2.01

2005-05-03 Thread Fox
On Tuesday 03 May 2005 21:36, Michael Devore wrote:
 Jazz runs okay for me, at least as far as running the green rodent around
 and shooting things.  Only problem I have with Jazz is the need to run
 SLOWDOWN to get my computer to 20% speed to avoid the Turbo Pascal runtime
 error 200 problem.  Do you have to run SLOWDOWN or another slow-style
 program ot make Jazz work, or is your CPU slow enough it's not a
 problem?  What's your testing CPU?

I don't need to slowdown my CPU anymore with Jazz, as I patched the JAZZ.EXE 
file with TPPATCH.EXE :)
My CPU is a Celeron 766 MHz FC-PGA
Maybe it's ok because I gave you a link to the shareware version... (I have 
the full one). I will pack my copy of the game and will send it to your ftp 
(devoresoftware/incoming), so you will have exactly the same program as I 
have.

Regards,
Fox


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