Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
iw2evk wrote: My copy of word 6 can be download here: http://www.perotti.ic.cz/wordprocessor/WORD6DOS.zip Please stop promoting your illegal copies! Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
Eric Auer wrote: www.oldversion.com/talk/archive/index.php/t-1080.html claims that the download is only for owners of Word 5.0 ...? This is correct. Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
Robert Riebisch wrote: Please stop promoting your illegal copies! OK, for the record, I bought a legal copy of Word 5.0 when this was available from Microsoft. The source floppies were damaged in a basement flood (I *know*, but I had a small house and lots of stuff), which is why I am using (and according to Microsoft, have a legal right to use) this downloaded version of Word 5.5. Eric, I apologize for not mentioning this earlier. I have not, and will not download the zipped version of Word 6.0 (but do appreciate the offer of help!) Thanks to everyone for the assistance. Robert, thanks for keeping us all on the straight and narrow! - Steve On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.dewrote: iw2evk wrote: My copy of word 6 can be download here: http://www.perotti.ic.cz/wordprocessor/WORD6DOS.zip Please stop promoting your illegal copies! Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
Steve Owens wrote: Thanks to everyone for the assistance. So does it work for you now? Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
Dunno yet - I plan to try the suggestions this weekend. I will post 'solved' and explain what worked once I do that. Thanks again! On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Robert Riebisch r...@bttr-software.dewrote: Steve Owens wrote: Thanks to everyone for the assistance. So does it work for you now? Robert Riebisch -- BTTR Software http://www.bttr-software.de/ -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
I second the vote for VP51 (which still works great under Windows XP, BTW), and the later windows (9, 10, etc) versions were quite nice as well. Much easier to format tables and pages than Word, IMO. That's one complaint I have about OO, that it's a Word work-alike, rather than WP. D -Original Message- From: Marco Antonio Achury Palma [mailto:marcoach...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:43 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS My all times favorite DOS word processing program was WordPerfect 5.1, has a very hard learning curve, but once you learn the keystrokes is really eficient, I worked a lot with it and tested WP6.0 but was very slow on amy 486SLC with 2 Mb Ram... With WP you can make things like look for all ocurrences of [NewLine][NewLine][Tab] and replace to [NewLine][Tab][Tab] I don't know how to do this with WinWord but by sure you can't do it without write some VB code. Talking about word processing Last month I have spend some time studying documentation about ODF and MS-OOXML file formats. Both are very complex. There is someone working on a DOS visor program to support them? I don't dream with advanced features but extract plain text may be feasible. -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
As Marco said, Word's Find and Replace does this easily - you need to click on the 'More' button in the Find and Replace dialog, then click on 'Special', then insert as many of the characters as you like in sequence - in this case, 'Paragraph Mark' and 'Tab Character'. Works like a charm! I haven't had much experience with WordPerfect, but know many writers who swear by it. Hard to get hold of a legitimate copy now, though. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Amedee Van Gasse ame...@amedee.be wrote: Marco Antonio Achury Palma schreef: My all times favorite DOS word processing program was WordPerfect 5.1, has a very hard learning curve, but once you learn the keystrokes is really eficient, I worked a lot with it and tested WP6.0 but was very slow on amy 486SLC with 2 Mb Ram... With WP you can make things like look for all ocurrences of [NewLine][NewLine][Tab] and replace to [NewLine][Tab][Tab] I don't know how to do this with WinWord but by sure you can't do it without write some VB code. Actually, you can. I have done it in Word 2003. I don't have a copy of MS Word on this Linux box so I can't explain in detail, but trust me it can be done without VBA. It's not well documented tho. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:26 -0600, Steve Owens wrote: As Marco said, Word's Find and Replace does this easily - you need to click on the 'More' button in the Find and Replace dialog, then click on 'Special', then insert as many of the characters as you like in sequence - in this case, 'Paragraph Mark' and 'Tab Character'. Works like a charm! I haven't had much experience with WordPerfect, but know many writers who swear by it. Hard to get hold of a legitimate copy now, though. Word Perfect 6.0 Dos is great. I have a working backup copy of it, but my install disks are no good. I looked on EBay for it, ridiculously high priced. The Linux version of Word Perfect seemingly never took off. The reality is, Word seems to be the only you have to pay for it word processor that is still selling successfully. I suppose you may still be able to get Word Perfect, but not for dos. It is truly sad that Microsoft, since it doesn't support it's dos versions of Word anymore, won't allow free redistribution of it. The reality is, there are very few old computers left that can only run dos, compared to the number of computers that run Linux or Windows. If people hand out illegal copies of software, it hurts efforts to replace that software with something like open office or ReactOS plus Open Office for example. Why bother with free stuff if you can get commercial software without paying for it? If the open source alternatives catch on, the legal problems of pirating software go away. Read the EULA that comes with Word Perfect. Chances are, you aren't allowed to install it to multiple machines or distribute it over a network. Open office is too heavy for dos anyways. Any efforts to port abiword to dos? How about producing an OSS clone of Windows 3.11 or Windows 98SE? The advantage of doing the latter is that the clone can be made to work with freedos instead of the other way around. I have never felt that Windows NT was a good replacement for dos based Windows. Microsoft did a sloppy job, too many 9x programs want to be run as administrator on an 2000/XP system. There is experimental support of Windows 3.0 I guess, which I don't have, and I question the point of that. Most copies of Windows 3.x are probably disk based and no good anymore. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
Hi :-) I think WordPerfect 5.1 was a really popular word processor for DOS, much more suited for DOS use than graphical Word versions today... The ODF and MS-OOXML formats are, as far as I remember, both actually renamed ZIP files with several XML files inside. I think MS-OOXML also has binary files inside for printer settings or similar sometimes. While the full office formats are indeed extremely complex, you can often get a quite good idea of the text content by unzipping the XML inside which has the focus on content, as opposed to layout etc, and then removing all XML tags and attributes. Example: ... fancyname fancyproperty=greenishHello/fancyname ... ...would simply be reduced to Hello, easy to read in DOS. Does anybody know a nice program for that for DOS? When in doubt, you can always use the DJGPP port of GNU textutils, for example the SED tool, to remove the XML markups... ;-) Eric Last month I have spend some time studying documentation about ODF and MS-OOXML file formats. Both are very complex. There is someone working on a DOS visor program to support them? I don't dream with advanced features but extract plain text may be feasible. PS: I remember writing a similar viewer for RTF once in Pascal, kind of crude but useful. Anybody wanna revive it? -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Loading old DOS programs under FreeDOS
PS: I remember writing a similar viewer for RTF once in Pascal, kind of crude but useful. Anybody wanna revive it? Certainly, pass it over here. I'll release dos and osx versions (and linux too if I can get another linux box up and running) Fpc is great. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
