[Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread alfio castorina

Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion. Problem
is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C: partition after
reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that is due
that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot from the
drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in order to
run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ?
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread Michael Reichenbach
alfio castorina schrieb:
 Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion. Problem
 is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C: partition after
 reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that is due
 that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot from the
 drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in order to
 run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ?

F2 to enter BIOS setup directly or ESC for boot device and setup.

-mr

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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread Travis Siegel
To boot from cd on a mac, hold down the C key while the mac is  
booting.  It will then boot from the CD, and you can install as normal.
However, this shouldn't be necessary, there are vm images already on  
the net you should be able to download one for freedos, and just drop  
it into your hd, and be all set.  To install dos from the cd, you'll  
need a separate partition to load the dos onto, and it will have to be  
fat or fat32.  The mac partition will not be readable from freedos,  
but that's not really an issue.
After you get freedos installed on it's own partition, then you will  
need to go into vmware, and tell it to create a virtual machine from  
the partition you installed freedos onto.
Hope this makes sense.
If you have trouble, let me know, and I'll see if I can help further.


On Mar 28, 2009, at 6:32 AM, Michael Reichenbach wrote:

 alfio castorina schrieb:
 Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare  
 Fusion. Problem
 is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C:  
 partition after
 reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that  
 is due
 that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot  
 from the
 drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in  
 order to
 run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ?

 F2 to enter BIOS setup directly or ESC for boot device and setup.

 -mr

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS silently writes to partition table?

2009-03-28 Thread Eric Auer

Hi,

actually I would recommend to tell GRUB to not manipulate
the partition table at all. Why should it hide FAT from
Linux or XP? Why should it hide XP and Linux from DOS?
All three operating systems are smart enough to know the
drive letter from which they are booting, although I am
not 100% sure about XP ;-). So while the grub manual on

www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows

does mention things like hide, unhide and makeactive, I do
not think you need ANY of them for FreeDOS or Linux... You
should probably mark your NTFS partition as active to make
XP happy, but for the other systems, you can probably keep
the partition table untouched :-). If your heavy hide stuff
is in some automatically created menu.lst then you should
probably contact the people who wrote the software which
made your menu.lst and tell them that they overdid it :-).

Eric

  gut.bin1  0+249 250-   2008093+  16  Hidden FAT16
  gut.bin2250 499 2502008125   82  Linux swap /  
 Solaris
  gut.bin3   *500+   4677-   4178-  335544327  HPFS/NTFS
  gut.bin4   4677+  19456   14780- 118716768+   5  Extended

 schl.bin1   *  0+249 250-   2008093+   6  FAT16
 schl.bin2250 499 2502008125   92  Unknown
 schl.bin3500+   4677-   4178-  33554432   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
 schl.bin4   4677+  19456   14780- 118716768+  15  Unknown



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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread cleanzero



cleanzero wrote:
 
 Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion.
 Problem is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C:
 partition after reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I
 suspect that is due that Freedos has not been installed yet and it
 attempts to boot from the drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force
 boot from CD in order to run the installation, but how ? Is there some key
 sequence or what ?
 

Thanks for the suggestions. I have now Freedos up and running. Now I have an
other problemhow do I transfer files between Freedos and Mac OS X 

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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Saturday 28 March 2009 21:58, cleanzero wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestions. I have now Freedos up and running. Now I have an
 other problemhow do I transfer files between Freedos and Mac OS X 

Does your Mac thing features a sshd server? If so, then you could use SCP2DOS, 
a very cool SCP client (SCP is a subset protocol of SSH, used to copy files in 
secure way).
Obviously, I assume that your FreeDOS system is up and running with network 
access.

Alternatively, I guess that VMware has some emulation stuff which allows to 
access a guest disk...

Regards,
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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread cleanzero



Mateusz Viste-3 wrote:
 
 
 
 Does your Mac thing features a sshd server? If so, then you could use
 SCP2DOS, a very cool SCP client (SCP is a subset protocol of SSH, used to
 copy files in secure way).
 Obviously, I assume that your FreeDOS system is up and running with
 network access.
 
 Alternatively, I guess that VMware has some emulation stuff which allows
 to access a guest disk...
 
 Regards,
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Ehm, no, I just installed the Freedos base. I have no clue on how to setup a
network. Is it easy ? I guess I should install some software, but then I'll
have the problem on how to put those files of Freedos. Maybe floppies images
? VMWare has file sharing but I don't think freedos is supported.

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS silently writes to partition table?

2009-03-28 Thread Christian Groessler

Hi,

 actually I would recommend to tell GRUB to not manipulate
 the partition table at all. Why should it hide FAT from
 Linux or XP? Why should it hide XP and Linux from DOS?
 All three operating systems are smart enough to know the
 drive letter from which they are booting, although I am
 not 100% sure about XP ;-). So while the grub manual on
 
 www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
 
 does mention things like hide, unhide and makeactive, I do
 not think you need ANY of them for FreeDOS or Linux... You
 should probably mark your NTFS partition as active to make
 XP happy, but for the other systems, you can probably keep
 the partition table untouched :-).

Hmm, yes, nice thinking :-)

I have on this machine 5 OSes, Debian Linux (x86), SuSE Linux
(x86_64), Windows XP (i386), Windows Server 2008 (x64) and now
FreeDOS (8086? :-).

It's quite some time ago, but IIRC I started installing DOS 6.22
and then the Windows things. They somehow modified the partition
table so that DOS 6.22 couldn't boot anymore and also installed
their boot loader into the DOS partition. Then I tried with
FreeDOS instead of DOS 6.22, but not much difference.

So after some struggling I decided to reserve an empty partition
at the start of the drive for DOS and installed the Windows and
Linux systems. I deferred the installation of DOS to a later time
since I needed the other systems for daily work.

So now I have 2 Windows installations which aren't aware of a
potential FAT partition as the first partition of the drive.
In order not to fight against Wind(ows)mills I'm using this
hide/unhide feature of grub to boot FreeDOS.

Probably I even don't need the hiding of the extended partition,
I haven't tried this yet. I just wanted to be on the safe side
since the very last partition at the end of the disk is a FAT32.
Don't know how FreeDOS reacts on this, but I will try :-)

regards,
chris



  


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Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem

2009-03-28 Thread Travis Siegel
Vmware does indeed have file sharing, but you shouldn't need it.
When you're running osx, you can simply copy any files you want for  
dos directly onto the dos partition.  Vmware will then pick those up  
when you dir the disk.
You can copy and paste between vmware and osx, but I've not tried it,  
so have no idea how easy/hard this process is.  I could find out  
though, :-).



On Mar 28, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote:

 On Saturday 28 March 2009 21:58, cleanzero wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestions. I have now Freedos up and running. Now  
 I have an
 other problemhow do I transfer files between Freedos and Mac OS  
 X 

 Does your Mac thing features a sshd server? If so, then you could  
 use SCP2DOS, a very cool SCP client (SCP is a subset protocol of  
 SSH, used to copy files in secure way).
 Obviously, I assume that your FreeDOS system is up and running with  
 network access.

 Alternatively, I guess that VMware has some emulation stuff which  
 allows to access a guest disk...

 Regards,
 Mateusz Viste
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