[Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion. Problem is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C: partition after reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that is due that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot from the drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in order to run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/freedos-and-vmware-problem-tp22748883p22748883.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
alfio castorina schrieb: Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion. Problem is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C: partition after reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that is due that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot from the drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in order to run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ? F2 to enter BIOS setup directly or ESC for boot device and setup. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
To boot from cd on a mac, hold down the C key while the mac is booting. It will then boot from the CD, and you can install as normal. However, this shouldn't be necessary, there are vm images already on the net you should be able to download one for freedos, and just drop it into your hd, and be all set. To install dos from the cd, you'll need a separate partition to load the dos onto, and it will have to be fat or fat32. The mac partition will not be readable from freedos, but that's not really an issue. After you get freedos installed on it's own partition, then you will need to go into vmware, and tell it to create a virtual machine from the partition you installed freedos onto. Hope this makes sense. If you have trouble, let me know, and I'll see if I can help further. On Mar 28, 2009, at 6:32 AM, Michael Reichenbach wrote: alfio castorina schrieb: Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion. Problem is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C: partition after reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that is due that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot from the drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in order to run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ? F2 to enter BIOS setup directly or ESC for boot device and setup. -mr -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS silently writes to partition table?
Hi, actually I would recommend to tell GRUB to not manipulate the partition table at all. Why should it hide FAT from Linux or XP? Why should it hide XP and Linux from DOS? All three operating systems are smart enough to know the drive letter from which they are booting, although I am not 100% sure about XP ;-). So while the grub manual on www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows does mention things like hide, unhide and makeactive, I do not think you need ANY of them for FreeDOS or Linux... You should probably mark your NTFS partition as active to make XP happy, but for the other systems, you can probably keep the partition table untouched :-). If your heavy hide stuff is in some automatically created menu.lst then you should probably contact the people who wrote the software which made your menu.lst and tell them that they overdid it :-). Eric gut.bin1 0+249 250- 2008093+ 16 Hidden FAT16 gut.bin2250 499 2502008125 82 Linux swap / Solaris gut.bin3 *500+ 4677- 4178- 335544327 HPFS/NTFS gut.bin4 4677+ 19456 14780- 118716768+ 5 Extended schl.bin1 * 0+249 250- 2008093+ 6 FAT16 schl.bin2250 499 2502008125 92 Unknown schl.bin3500+ 4677- 4178- 33554432 17 Hidden HPFS/NTFS schl.bin4 4677+ 19456 14780- 118716768+ 15 Unknown -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
cleanzero wrote: Hi, I want to install freedos on my Macbook Pro using VMWare Fusion. Problem is that after booting from the cd image and creating the C: partition after reboot I get the message invalid operating system. I suspect that is due that Freedos has not been installed yet and it attempts to boot from the drive. I think I should access the BIOS to force boot from CD in order to run the installation, but how ? Is there some key sequence or what ? Thanks for the suggestions. I have now Freedos up and running. Now I have an other problemhow do I transfer files between Freedos and Mac OS X -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/freedos-and-vmware-problem-tp22748883p22761234.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
On Saturday 28 March 2009 21:58, cleanzero wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I have now Freedos up and running. Now I have an other problemhow do I transfer files between Freedos and Mac OS X Does your Mac thing features a sshd server? If so, then you could use SCP2DOS, a very cool SCP client (SCP is a subset protocol of SSH, used to copy files in secure way). Obviously, I assume that your FreeDOS system is up and running with network access. Alternatively, I guess that VMware has some emulation stuff which allows to access a guest disk... Regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
Mateusz Viste-3 wrote: Does your Mac thing features a sshd server? If so, then you could use SCP2DOS, a very cool SCP client (SCP is a subset protocol of SSH, used to copy files in secure way). Obviously, I assume that your FreeDOS system is up and running with network access. Alternatively, I guess that VMware has some emulation stuff which allows to access a guest disk... Regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Ehm, no, I just installed the Freedos base. I have no clue on how to setup a network. Is it easy ? I guess I should install some software, but then I'll have the problem on how to put those files of Freedos. Maybe floppies images ? VMWare has file sharing but I don't think freedos is supported. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/freedos-and-vmware-problem-tp22748883p22761456.html Sent from the FreeDOS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS silently writes to partition table?
Hi, actually I would recommend to tell GRUB to not manipulate the partition table at all. Why should it hide FAT from Linux or XP? Why should it hide XP and Linux from DOS? All three operating systems are smart enough to know the drive letter from which they are booting, although I am not 100% sure about XP ;-). So while the grub manual on www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows does mention things like hide, unhide and makeactive, I do not think you need ANY of them for FreeDOS or Linux... You should probably mark your NTFS partition as active to make XP happy, but for the other systems, you can probably keep the partition table untouched :-). Hmm, yes, nice thinking :-) I have on this machine 5 OSes, Debian Linux (x86), SuSE Linux (x86_64), Windows XP (i386), Windows Server 2008 (x64) and now FreeDOS (8086? :-). It's quite some time ago, but IIRC I started installing DOS 6.22 and then the Windows things. They somehow modified the partition table so that DOS 6.22 couldn't boot anymore and also installed their boot loader into the DOS partition. Then I tried with FreeDOS instead of DOS 6.22, but not much difference. So after some struggling I decided to reserve an empty partition at the start of the drive for DOS and installed the Windows and Linux systems. I deferred the installation of DOS to a later time since I needed the other systems for daily work. So now I have 2 Windows installations which aren't aware of a potential FAT partition as the first partition of the drive. In order not to fight against Wind(ows)mills I'm using this hide/unhide feature of grub to boot FreeDOS. Probably I even don't need the hiding of the extended partition, I haven't tried this yet. I just wanted to be on the safe side since the very last partition at the end of the disk is a FAT32. Don't know how FreeDOS reacts on this, but I will try :-) regards, chris -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos and vmware problem
Vmware does indeed have file sharing, but you shouldn't need it. When you're running osx, you can simply copy any files you want for dos directly onto the dos partition. Vmware will then pick those up when you dir the disk. You can copy and paste between vmware and osx, but I've not tried it, so have no idea how easy/hard this process is. I could find out though, :-). On Mar 28, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Mateusz Viste wrote: On Saturday 28 March 2009 21:58, cleanzero wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I have now Freedos up and running. Now I have an other problemhow do I transfer files between Freedos and Mac OS X Does your Mac thing features a sshd server? If so, then you could use SCP2DOS, a very cool SCP client (SCP is a subset protocol of SSH, used to copy files in secure way). Obviously, I assume that your FreeDOS system is up and running with network access. Alternatively, I guess that VMware has some emulation stuff which allows to access a guest disk... Regards, Mateusz Viste -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user