[Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + TDSK

2012-02-07 Thread Bertho Grandpied
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012, Kenneth Davis jeremyd@***.org wrote :


  test kernel supporting 4KB sectors, note it limits
 buffers to 2 to avoid memory corruption on boot.  

 Thanks for testing,

Eager to try your kernel mods with real HW, but, there is a but! in order for 
my Iomega device to be recognised  processed by KERNEL.SYS (rather than a 
specific user installed driver), I need to have USB support with int 13h 
emulation for that device installed BEFORE booting DOS. 

A PLoP boot diskette would've  been ideal for this, EXCEPT... PLoP does not 
support other than 512 byte sectors on USB hard disks, at the moment. 

Actually I'd been in touch with PLoP's developer Elmar even before I suscribed 
on this mailing list. He renounced or at least postponed doing the changes, 
unfortunately, arguing a tiny number of prospective users and difficulty of 
testing over the internet. 

Maybe you (FreeDOS developers) would like to add your weight to my prayer for 
Elmar to reconsider ? He doesn't distribute PLoP source code UIAM.

And, are you (you all!) aware of some other option ?

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[Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + PLoP

2012-02-07 Thread Bertho Grandpied

  test kernel supporting 4KB sectors, note it limits
 buffers to 2 to avoid memory corruption on boot.  

 Thanks for testing,

By an extraordinary coincidence - I am not making this up ! I received mail 
from PLoP's developer today, a short time after I had posted the following note 
to this list :

 A PLoP boot diskette would've  been ideal for this, EXCEPT... PLoP does  not 
 support other than 512 byte sectors on USB hard disks, at the moment. 

Strike that out !
The great news is a new version of PLoP is available for download from 
http://www.plop.at/en/bootmngrusblog.html
now *including /experimental/ support for 4K sectors ! *

N.B. Be warned the author writes he doesn't think it works well or has a 
future. Caveat emptor, then. 

Also of note, PLoP's license has changed it is now free for use including 
commercial. Donations will be accepted still? Please watch what Elmar had to 
say about the change (at the above URL).


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + TDSK

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Brown
you *could* try USBASPI.SYS /V /W
followed by DI1000DD.SYS
( works for me )

  

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + TDSK

2012-02-07 Thread BretJ


Mark Brown-27 wrote:
 
 you *could* try USBASPI.SYS /V /W
 followed by DI1000DD.SYS
 ( works for me )

In my opinion, this is applying a band-aid to a problem that actually
requires drastic surgery.  USBASPI.SYS + DI1000DD.SYS may in fact work in
certain situations.  But, it is not a complete, or even a desirable,
long-term solution.  It is not open source, does not support USB devices
other than disks (mice, keyboards, joysticks, printers, network, comm, ...),
etc.

It may get you by in the meantime while real solutions are developed,
though.
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[Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors

2012-02-07 Thread Bertho Grandpied
In reply to: Mark Brown eufdppue@ya???.com

 you *could* try USBASPI.SYS /V /W
 followed by DI1000DD.SYS

This is what I tried first thing, and the DI1000DD.SYS [Ninja ASPI DISK DRIVER 
Ver2.00, 16368 bytes, MD5=9C240A5F1848F76893364AB3A26D545F] which I use 
definitely /won't/ work with 4K sectors. 

 ( works for me )

You lucky boy :=)  Now let's sort things out a little, please :

- you are 100% positive your USB device presents 4K sectors to the host, NOT 
512 byte ones ... are you ?

- if you answered yes above, what *exact* version of DI1000DD.SYS have you been 
using, please ? I've been chasing the rare bird without success. Can you share 
a link, or the file itself, for testing purposes ? 

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Re: [Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + PLoP

2012-02-07 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 7-2-2012 15:05, Bertho Grandpied schreef:

 Also of note, PLoP's license has changed it is now free for use including 
 commercial. Donations will be accepted still? Please watch what Elmar had to 
 say about the change (at the above URL).

The donation button is quite well hidden, and seems restricted to Paypal 
only. Vendors like ShareIt(.com) seem to work pretty well if he wants to 
sell stuff, it even offered the iDeal payment system that's common in 
the Netherlands (we're not a creditcard culture, sorry).

I tend to pay for low-cost quality software if no equal free solution 
exists. Windows and VMware Workstation have been my most expensive 
purchases, followed by some collector editions of various games.


Bernd

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[Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + TDSK

2012-02-07 Thread Bertho Grandpied
This is correcting my mistake, 

--- On : Tue 2/7/12, Bertho Grandpied y31415926536@y??? wrote :

 In reply to: Mark Brown

  you *could* try USBASPI.SYS /V /W
  followed by DI1000DD.SYS
 
 This is what I tried first thing, and the DI1000DD.SYS
 [Ninja ASPI DISK DRIVER Ver2.00, 16368 bytes,
 MD5=9C 


Oooops I took the MD5 from the wrong file (a version I've hacked), the 
correct 128 bit MD5 for the DI1000DD.SYS here is :


MD5=662FF106A2C4012D212E8F99B62EC6E0

Sorry! Hope it helps...

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[Freedos-user] Re : Support for 4k byte sectors + PLoP

2012-02-07 Thread Bertho Grandpied
In reply to: Bernd Blaauw bblaauw@ho...

Op 7-2-2012 15:05, Bertho Grandpied schreef:
 Also of note, PLoP's license has changed it is now free for use  including 
 commercial. Donations will be accepted still?.

The question mark after the word still was un,intended (a typo). Sorry if it 
clouded the meaning of my message. I wished to draw attention on the fact that 
donations from happy users, companies as well as individuals are still accepted.

 The donation button is quite well hidden, and seems restricted to Paypal 
only. Vendors like ShareIt(.com) seem to work pretty well if he wants to 
sell stuff, it even offered the iDeal payment system that's common in 
the Netherlands (we're not a creditcard culture, sorry).

Neither here. 'I never owned a card) 

 I tend to pay for low-cost quality software if no equal free solution 
exists. Windows and VMware Workstation have been my most expensive 
purchases, followed by some collector editions of various games.

I would gladly donate for PLoP, weren't I deprived of any salary, benefit or 
whatever income. 

In any event I'm going to try Elmar's experimental build and shall report the 
results.

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