[Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Hi all: I'm working in an environment where port 80 is closed on the firewall in order to enforce the use of a proxy server. I cannot figure out how to get fdupdate or fdnpkg to use a proxy. Things I've tried: C:\ set HTTP_PROXY = 10.40.6.31:3128 Adding http.proxy = 10.40.6.31:3128 to WATTCP.CFG Editing the repository variable in FDUPDATE.CFG to read: http://10.40.6.31:3128/http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/http://10.40.6.31:3128/http:/www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/ Nothing works. Please help. Respectfully Submitted, R. Toby Richards Network Administrator Superior Court of California In and for the County of San Luis Obispo (805) 781-4150 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Hi Toby, FDNPKG doesn't support proxy. The mystery is over :) Can I ask what you are using FreeDOS for? Just curious. I will add proxy support to FDNPKG for you by the end of this week. Will let you know (and the list) when it's done. cheers, Mateusz On 10/07/2013 04:47 PM, Richards, Toby wrote: Hi all: I’m working in an environment where port 80 is closed on the firewall in order to enforce the use of a proxy server. I cannot figure out how to get fdupdate or fdnpkg to use a proxy. Things I’ve tried: C:\ set HTTP_PROXY = 10.40.6.31:3128 Adding “http.proxy = 10.40.6.31:3128” to WATTCP.CFG Editing the “repository” variable in FDUPDATE.CFG to read: http://10.40.6.31:3128/http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/ http://10.40.6.31:3128/http:/www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/fdupdate/ Nothing works. Please help. Respectfully Submitted, R. Toby Richards Network Administrator Superior Court of California In and for the County of San Luis Obispo (805) 781-4150 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Thanks for the help, Mateusz. I'm not currently using FreeDOS for anything. I just enjoy playing with operating systems to see what I can get them to do. If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Can I use FDNPKG to update FreeDOS, or do I need the FDUPDATE maintainer to add proxy functionality to that as well? -Toby -Original Message- From: Mateusz Viste [mailto:mate...@viste-family.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:19 AM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? Hi Toby, FDNPKG doesn't support proxy. The mystery is over :) Can I ask what you are using FreeDOS for? Just curious. I will add proxy support to FDNPKG for you by the end of this week. Will let you know (and the list) when it's done. cheers, Mateusz On 10/07/2013 04:47 PM, Richards, Toby wrote: Hi all: I'm working in an environment where port 80 is closed on the firewall in order to enforce the use of a proxy server. I cannot figure out how to get fdupdate or fdnpkg to use a proxy. Things I've tried: C:\ set HTTP_PROXY = 10.40.6.31:3128 Adding http.proxy = 10.40.6.31:3128 to WATTCP.CFG Editing the repository variable in FDUPDATE.CFG to read: http://10.40.6.31:3128/http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freed os/files/fdupdate/ http://10.40.6.31:3128/http:/www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freed os/files/fdupdate/ Nothing works. Please help. Respectfully Submitted, R. Toby Richards Network Administrator Superior Court of California In and for the County of San Luis Obispo (805) 781-4150 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
I do not advise to use FDUPDATE for anything - it's hackish, old and unmaintained. IIRC, it wasn't supporting proxy anyway. I stopped developing FDUPDATE years ago, and created FDNPKG as a better, leaner replacement. What you might want to do instead, is using FDNPKG in offline mode. This requires you to download the FDNPKG CD, and configure an on-disk repository in FDNPKG. This way, FDNPKG will use your CD instead of accessing the internet. The FDNPKG CD is available here (all_cd.iso): http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/ cheers, Mateusz On 10/07/2013 05:24 PM, Richards, Toby wrote: Thanks for the help, Mateusz. I'm not currently using FreeDOS for anything. I just enjoy playing with operating systems to see what I can get them to do. If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Can I use FDNPKG to update FreeDOS, or do I need the FDUPDATE maintainer to add proxy functionality to that as well? -Toby -Original Message- From: Mateusz Viste [mailto:mate...@viste-family.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 8:19 AM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? Hi Toby, FDNPKG doesn't support proxy. The mystery is over :) Can I ask what you are using FreeDOS for? Just curious. I will add proxy support to FDNPKG for you by the end of this week. Will let you know (and the list) when it's done. cheers, Mateusz On 10/07/2013 04:47 PM, Richards, Toby wrote: Hi all: I'm working in an environment where port 80 is closed on the firewall in order to enforce the use of a proxy server. I cannot figure out how to get fdupdate or fdnpkg to use a proxy. Things I've tried: C:\ set HTTP_PROXY = 10.40.6.31:3128 Adding http.proxy = 10.40.6.31:3128 to WATTCP.CFG Editing the repository variable in FDUPDATE.CFG to read: http://10.40.6.31:3128/http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freed os/files/fdupdate/ http://10.40.6.31:3128/http:/www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freed os/files/fdupdate/ Nothing works. Please help. Respectfully Submitted, R. Toby Richards Network Administrator Superior Court of California In and for the County of San Luis Obispo (805) 781-4150 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov javascript:; wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Yeah, but a GEM based hyperterminal would be that much more cool :) -Toby From: Louis Santillan [mailto:lpsan...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:44 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.govjavascript:; wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.netjavascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Maybe. I use ssh/scp/sftp for everything I do these days. Is gem able to
multitask these sessions?
-L
On Monday, October 7, 2013, Richards, Toby wrote:
Yeah, but a GEM based hyperterminal would be that much more cool J
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-Toby
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*From:* Louis Santillan [mailto:lpsan...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
'cvml', 'lpsan...@gmail.com');]
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The mini cd is also under 30mb to download.
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https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
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-L
On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote:
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby
toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote:
If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a
Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports
are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs
slow.
Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook.
Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow.
Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily
advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had
crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD,
install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other
things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable.
And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and
start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It
turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old
machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the
last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the
video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the
only real solution.
-Toby
__
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Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe. I use ssh/scp/sftp for everything I do these days. Is gem able to multitask these sessions? AFAIK, no. There was some unfinished work (long time ago) on a quasi-multitasking GEM, but it was never reliable, and at least modern-ish GEM doesn't enable (or contain) it. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
This is neat. I can use it. I have a computer upstairs which runs the printer and is occasionally used on line. It is currently on hardy heron as I have an install disk for that and am afraid to upgrade on the reason that I think a real upgrade would be beyond the capacity of this turn of the century machine. bs On Mon, 10/7/13, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote: Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Monday, October 7, 2013, 4:31 PM Yeah, but a GEM based hyperterminal would be that much more cool J -Toby From: Louis Santillan [mailto:lpsan...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:44 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote:On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -Inline Attachment Follows- -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
I've used Ubuntu mini to setup virtual box vm servers. Kinda slick to be able to VNC into a FreeDOS instance and run stuff over a network. -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, Bob Schwier wrote: This is neat. I can use it. I have a computer upstairs which runs the printer and is occasionally used on line. It is currently on hardy heron as I have an install disk for that and am afraid to upgrade on the reason that I think a real upgrade would be beyond the capacity of this turn of the century machine. bs On Mon, 10/7/13, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.govjavascript:; wrote: Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; Date: Monday, October 7, 2013, 4:31 PM Yeah, but a GEM based hyperterminal would be that much more cool J -Toby From: Louis Santillan [mailto:lpsan...@gmail.com javascript:;] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:44 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY? The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote:On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov javascript:; wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -Inline Attachment Follows- -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTP_PROXY?
Try last knoppix wich uses as default LXDE desktop I run this system sucessfully on 300 mhz processor, 164 Mb ram. Take a long time to startup but later has an usable speed, runing from CD, installing on HD will have higher speed. Marco Achury www.achury.com.ve El 07/10/2013 03:13 p.m., Louis Santillan escribió: The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov javascript:; wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Linux OSes to use as VM hosts for FreeDOS, WAS Re: HTTP_PROXY?
Another lightweight Linux distro with good VM capabilities is TinyCoreLinux. Runs entire in a RAM drive. 9MB base OS, 15MB with Xorg, FLTK, FLWM, wbar, 16MB while running in RAM with networking and wifi builtin. Qemu, VirtualBox, dosbox were all supported with packages in version 4.x (TCZs) and support hasn't seemed to have caught up yet in 5.x yet. I've personally have used qemu vbox and both worked well for emulating FreedDOS and other DOSes. There is a learning curve to using TinyCoreLinux (many concepts different from even knoppix distros) but cost savings in terms of HW are worthwhile. -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, Marco Achury wrote: Try last knoppix wich uses as default LXDE desktop I run this system sucessfully on 300 mhz processor, 164 Mb ram. Take a long time to startup but later has an usable speed, runing from CD, installing on HD will have higher speed. Marco Achury www.achury.com.ve El 07/10/2013 03:13 p.m., Louis Santillan escribió: The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov javascript:; javascript:; wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list
Re: [Freedos-user] Linux OSes to use as VM hosts for FreeDOS, WAS Re: HTTP_PROXY?
Thanks all for the mini Linux replies, but I think it would be über cool to get a hyperterm running in Gem. Follow up question: does Gem run on any os other than FreeDOS? Sorry about any typos. Poking on my iPhone here while sucking nitrous at the dentist. Autocorrect tried to turn hyperterm into hypothermia. On Oct 7, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.commailto:lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: Another lightweight Linux distro with good VM capabilities is TinyCoreLinux. Runs entire in a RAM drive. 9MB base OS, 15MB with Xorg, FLTK, FLWM, wbar, 16MB while running in RAM with networking and wifi builtin. Qemu, VirtualBox, dosbox were all supported with packages in version 4.x (TCZs) and support hasn't seemed to have caught up yet in 5.x yet. I've personally have used qemu vbox and both worked well for emulating FreedDOS and other DOSes. There is a learning curve to using TinyCoreLinux (many concepts different from even knoppix distros) but cost savings in terms of HW are worthwhile. -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, Marco Achury wrote: Try last knoppix wich uses as default LXDE desktop I run this system sucessfully on 300 mhz processor, 164 Mb ram. Take a long time to startup but later has an usable speed, runing from CD, installing on HD will have higher speed. Marco Achury www.achury.com.vehttp://www.achury.com.ve El 07/10/2013 03:13 p.m., Louis Santillan escribió: The mini cd is also under 30mb to download. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD -L On Monday, October 7, 2013, dmccunney wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.govjavascript:; javascript:; wrote: If I were to find a use for FreeDOS, it would be to eventually get a Hyperterminal-like program running in OpenGEM. Laptops with serial ports are rare these days, and the ones we have are so old that even XUbuntu runs slow. Don't run Xubuntu. I went through that with an ancient notebook. Xubuntu would install and technically run, but was snail slow. Posters on the Ubuntu forums suggested the Ubuntu had a steadily advancing idea of what low end was, and that too much Gnome had crept into Xubuntu. They suggested what I did: get the minimal CD, install to get a working CLI environment, then pick and choose other things via apt-get. Lxde run on an ext4 file system is usable. And you may not want the latest Ubuntu release. I had to wipe and start over from scratch after attempting to upgrade to 13.04. It turns out the kernel in that release requires PAE support that my old machine doesn't have. But the upgrade didn't check for that till the last step of installing the kernel. The kernel install failed, the video system was hosed on reboot, and re-doing from scratch was the only real solution. -Toby __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.netjavascript:; javascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.netjavascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.netjavascript:; https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel
Re: [Freedos-user] Linux OSes to use as VM hosts for FreeDOS, WAS Re: HTTP_PROXY?
Hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote: Follow up question: does Gem run on any os other than FreeDOS? Which GEM? I'm not sure it's developed or even maintained anymore. I haven't heard jack from anybody (nor Shane Coughlin) about it in recent times. (Not that I should, just saying ) Latest is probably OpenGEM, check iBiblio for latest (2006-ish, apparently): http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=opengem http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/gui/opengem/6/ (2006, 2010) http://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/opengem/OpenGEM%20SDK%203/opengem-sdk-release-3.zip/download (2008) Anyways, will it run on others? Dunno, there are way too many DOSes, and I don't have the energy or interest in testing them all! (ROM DOS, PC-DOS, PTS-DOS, EDR-DOS, DR-DOS, RDOS, etc.) The fun thing about computers is that you can never know if something will work until you try it. Even then, you might try incorrectly, or maybe it's just not (well) supported (anymore). But having said that, I'm not personally aware of any incompatibilities nor any FreeDOS-isms (bad!). But a healthy dose of skepticism is required as 100% compatibility of anything is often difficult (without lots of testing). -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Linux OSes to use as VM hosts for FreeDOS, WAS Re: HTTP_PROXY?
I meant on Linux or some other nondos os. On Oct 7, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote: Follow up question: does Gem run on any os other than FreeDOS? Which GEM? I'm not sure it's developed or even maintained anymore. I haven't heard jack from anybody (nor Shane Coughlin) about it in recent times. (Not that I should, just saying ) Latest is probably OpenGEM, check iBiblio for latest (2006-ish, apparently): http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=opengem http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/gui/opengem/6/ (2006, 2010) http://sourceforge.net/projects/opengem/files/opengem/OpenGEM%20SDK%203/opengem-sdk-release-3.zip/download (2008) Anyways, will it run on others? Dunno, there are way too many DOSes, and I don't have the energy or interest in testing them all! (ROM DOS, PC-DOS, PTS-DOS, EDR-DOS, DR-DOS, RDOS, etc.) The fun thing about computers is that you can never know if something will work until you try it. Even then, you might try incorrectly, or maybe it's just not (well) supported (anymore). But having said that, I'm not personally aware of any incompatibilities nor any FreeDOS-isms (bad!). But a healthy dose of skepticism is required as 100% compatibility of anything is often difficult (without lots of testing). -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Linux OSes to use as VM hosts for FreeDOS, WAS Re: HTTP_PROXY?
Hi, On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Richards, Toby toby.richa...@slo.courts.ca.gov wrote: I meant on Linux or some other nondos os. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_Environment_Manager#Continued_development Continued development Caldera Thin Clients (later known as Lineo) released the source to GEM under the GNU General Public License (GPL) in April 1999. The development of GEM for PC is continued as OpenGEM and FreeGEM. It also has been ported to the Atari ST again to be used in the free TOS clone EmuTOS. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
