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Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Thomas Mueller  wrote:
> from dmccunney:
>
> "Mister, you're a better man than I."
>
>> I migrated to Windows and Linux long ago.  There are still a few old
>> DOS apps I use, and I'm currently playing with a fork of DOSBox called
>> vDos under 64 bit Windows to run them.  I play with FreeDOS for fun
>> and to keep my hand in.  I haven't tried to use DOS as my production
>> OS for over 25 years.  Too much of what I do now simply can't be done
>> in DOS, and some that can is simply more trouble to do it that way
>> than it's worth.
>
>> If what you have suits your needs, more power to you.  It would not suit 
>> mine.
>
> I understand what you mean.
>
> I still have and use Quattro Pro 5 for DOS but am migrating to Gnumeric.

Gnumeric is one option.  LibreOffice/Open Office is another.  I'm
making increasing use of Google Sheets.

> I can't run FreeDOS or any other DOS from hard drive because of GPT; only way 
> is if I can install to a USB stick using FAT32 and get that to boot.

That doesn't bite here - the box FreeDOS lives on is an ancient
notebook set to multi-boot Win2K Pro, a couple of flavors of Linux,
and FreeDOS.  GPT is not in the picture.

> I can't access the Internet from DOS because of lack of driver for modern 
> Ethernet chip.  Conceivably I could boot FreeDOS by NFS and even run from big 
> ext4fs partition.

I don't even try.  Even if I could, DOS browser support is lacking.
Yes, Arachne exists, but web standards have changed to the point where
many sites simply won't work in it.

On the multiboot machine where FreeDOS lives, Linux can see the NTFS
slice where Windows is installed, and an open source Windows driver
lets it read/write the ext4 slices where the Linux flavors are
installed.  Windows and Linux can both read/write the FAT32 slice
where FreeDOS lives.  FreeDOS can only see its own slice, but I don't
care.  I have no need to access NTFS or ext4 from DOS.

> I use FreeBSD and NetBSD now, plan to build installations for Linux and Haiku.

Okay.

> Even if I could access the Internet from FreeDOS booting through NFS, 
> applications are far behind what is available for Linux and the BSDs, meaning 
> essentially an exercise in frustration.

Precisely.

> Main purpose for accessing the Internet from FreeDOS would be to see if it's 
> possible.

It may be *possible*.  What you could do once you had would be another matter.

> I never heard of vDos fork of DOSBox, can't find it in either FreeBSD ports 
> or NetBSD pkgsrc, emulators category.

It doesn't exist there. vDos is specific to Windows, and intended to
support 16 bit character mode DOS apps in a 64bit Windows environment.
Because it's intended for character mode business apps, it drops a lot
of stuff in DOSBox intended to support MSDOS games.  It works fine
here to run things like WordStar 7 under Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.  If
what you run is Linux or *BSD, DOSBox is your option.

> Tom
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Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread Thomas Mueller
from dmccunney:

"Mister, you're a better man than I."

> I migrated to Windows and Linux long ago.  There are still a few old
> DOS apps I use, and I'm currently playing with a fork of DOSBox called
> vDos under 64 bit Windows to run them.  I play with FreeDOS for fun
> and to keep my hand in.  I haven't tried to use DOS as my production
> OS for over 25 years.  Too much of what I do now simply can't be done
> in DOS, and some that can is simply more trouble to do it that way
> than it's worth.
 
> If what you have suits your needs, more power to you.  It would not suit mine.

I understand what you mean.

I still have and use Quattro Pro 5 for DOS but am migrating to Gnumeric.

I can't run FreeDOS or any other DOS from hard drive because of GPT; only way 
is if I can install to a USB stick using FAT32 and get that to boot.

I can't access the Internet from DOS because of lack of driver for modern 
Ethernet chip.  Conceivably I could boot FreeDOS by NFS and even run from big 
ext4fs partition.

I use FreeBSD and NetBSD now, plan to build installations for Linux and Haiku.

Even if I could access the Internet from FreeDOS booting through NFS, 
applications are far behind what is available for Linux and the BSDs, meaning 
essentially an exercise in frustration.

Main purpose for accessing the Internet from FreeDOS would be to see if it's 
possible.

I never heard of vDos fork of DOSBox, can't find it in either FreeBSD ports or 
NetBSD pkgsrc, emulators category.

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
> I got it to download finally. It seems that it doesn't like Opera.
> I tried IE and it worked. I wonder why it hates Opera.
> Opera always worked before.

I have no idea.  Which version of Opera?

> As far as dos goes I use it for alot. Qpro for book keeping,
> Wordperfect for letters etc and Quickview to do my camera pics.
> with QV you can stop a movie on a frame and capture a still to print.

"Mister, you're a better man than I."

I migrated to Windows and Linux long ago.  There are still a few old
DOS apps I use, and I'm currently playing with a fork of DOSBox called
vDos under 64 bit Windows to run them.  I play with FreeDOS for fun
and to keep my hand in.  I haven't tried to use DOS as my production
OS for over 25 years.  Too much of what I do now simply can't be done
in DOS, and some that can is simply more trouble to do it that way
than it's worth.

If what you have suits your needs, more power to you.  It would not suit mine.

> thanx
> DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread Dale E Sterner
I got it to download finally. It seems that it doesn't like Opera.
I tried IE and it worked. I wonder why it hates Opera.
Opera always worked before.
As far as dos goes I use it for alot. Qpro for book keeping,
Wordperfect for letters etc and Quickview to do my camera pics.
with QV you can stop a movie on a frame and capture a still to print.

thanx
DS


On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:18:24 -0500 dmccunney 
writes:
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Dale E Sterner 
>  wrote:
> > When you pay for the software he gives you a special link with a
> > password.
> 
> I assumed something like that.
> 
> > Have you tried the s command on a movie. I paid him $100 to add 
> it.
> > I use it on home movies. I can stop the movie at a good spot and 
> save the
> > frame.
> > Instead of taking alot of stills I just make an avi movie and save 
> the good frames
> > for printing out. Never miss a shot that way. I can catch someone 
> in mid air.
> 
> That's a nice feature, but I haven't tried to use it, and don't use
> QuickView.  Video here is one of the things Windows and Linux are 
> for.
> I don't *try* to do it in DOS.  What I do in DOS is pure console
> character mode.  (There are a variety of things that technically 
> *can*
> be done in DOS but are more trouble than it's worth to do so.)
> 
> > Will have to try a library computer; perhaps my dial up is too 
> slow
> 
> That's a good bet.  The issue may be on the end of whatever you
> connect to when you dial up.  I used Juno a long time ago, and
> remember redialing multiple times to get a reliable 53K dialup, 
> since
> the speed of the established connection was "luck of the draw".
> 
> I have a 100mbps cable connection, and it's been years since I tried
> to use dial up for anything.  (And I *couldn't* now - my phone 
> service
> is VOIP via my cable co.  Verizon is doing its best to make copper 
> go
> away and migrate everything to fiber, and I don't blame them a bit.)
> 
> > cheers
> > DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:
> When you pay for the software he gives you a special link with a
> password.

I assumed something like that.

> Have you tried the s command on a movie. I paid him $100 to add it.
> I use it on home movies. I can stop the movie at a good spot and save the
> frame.
> Instead of taking alot of stills I just make an avi movie and save the good 
> frames
> for printing out. Never miss a shot that way. I can catch someone in mid air.

That's a nice feature, but I haven't tried to use it, and don't use
QuickView.  Video here is one of the things Windows and Linux are for.
I don't *try* to do it in DOS.  What I do in DOS is pure console
character mode.  (There are a variety of things that technically *can*
be done in DOS but are more trouble than it's worth to do so.)

> Will have to try a library computer; perhaps my dial up is too slow

That's a good bet.  The issue may be on the end of whatever you
connect to when you dial up.  I used Juno a long time ago, and
remember redialing multiple times to get a reliable 53K dialup, since
the speed of the established connection was "luck of the draw".

I have a 100mbps cable connection, and it's been years since I tried
to use dial up for anything.  (And I *couldn't* now - my phone service
is VOIP via my cable co.  Verizon is doing its best to make copper go
away and migrate everything to fiber, and I don't blame them a bit.)

> cheers
> DS
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Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread Dale E Sterner
When you pay for the software he gives you a special link with a 
password.
Have you tried the s command on a movie. I paid him $100 to add it.
I use it on home movies. I can stop the movie at a good spot and save the
frame.
Instead of taking alot of stills I just make an avi movie and save the
good frames
for printing out. Never miss a shot that way. I can catch someone in mid
air.
Will have to try a library computer; perhaps my dial up is too slow


cheers
DS


On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 23:18:53 -0500 dmccunney 
writes:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Dale E Sterner  
> wrote:
> > I'm getting error "overloaded or off line" at your link.
> > The link I tried was for registered users only.
> > The sound drivers all downloaded without any problem but
> > the main link to the program doesn't work here for some reason.
> 
> I have no idea what the registered users link might be, but the one 
> I
> tried had no issues at all, and a test download happened in seconds.
> You might want to check your connection, and make sure that what you
> are connecting to is really at 209.68.0.152.  (See
> http://geoip.flagfox.net/?ip=209.68.0.152&host=www.multimediaware.com
> for the details on the link.)
> 
> The problem is on your end.
> 
> > cheers
> > DS
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