Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

[Aitor Santamaría]

Hello,


On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 11:27,  wrote:

> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>
>>
>> Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper?
>>
>
> It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines.
>
>
> Wow, this is an old thread (over 3 years)!
>
Well I am a little behind on mail  ;)


> KEYB requiring a 286 or better is based solely on:
>
> $ grep 286 *
> KEYBMSG.DE:STR2_7 = 'KEYB braucht (immer noch) einen AT/286 oder besser';
> KEYBMSG.NLS:STR2_7 = 'Keyb (still) requires an AT/286 or better';
>
> Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess
> knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. So if there is
> support for hardware older than a 286 or options that provide
> compatibility, I would not know they exist.
>
> Watching it, I would say it requires a test, but my answer was based on
two facts:
(1) The G- compiler directive
(2) The fact that originally, it was based on int15h (as mkeyb), but I
wrote the /9 code, to precisely emulate the call of int9h => int 15h.

Sadly, my XT 8088 ceased to work time ago :(

Aitor
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

[Ralf Quint]

On 6/7/2023 3:44 AM, Liam Proven wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28,  wrote:


Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess 
knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB.

Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not
Americans and we don't use the American keyboard layout. EVERY English
language PC I ever set up in my >30y career ran some sort of keyboard
mapping tool to get my native English language, the language of
England, you know, us, the people who invented it, supported and
working.

keyb uk 437 c:\dos\keyboard.sys

Well, to be fair, the differences between the US and UK keyboard layout 
have pretty much nothing really to do with the language itself... ;-)



Ralf




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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

[Liam Proven]

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 10:28,  wrote:

> Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess 
> knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB.

Small but important point. The majority of English speakers are not
Americans and we don't use the American keyboard layout. EVERY English
language PC I ever set up in my >30y career ran some sort of keyboard
mapping tool to get my native English language, the language of
England, you know, us, the people who invented it, supported and
working.

keyb uk 437 c:\dos\keyboard.sys

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

[jerome]

Hi Aitor,

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:19 PM, Aitor Santamaría  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jerome,
> 
> On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 13:26, Jerome Shidel  > wrote:
> 
> Why keyb need a 286, it’s a keyboard mapper?
> 
> It does not: KEYB /9 should work on 8088 class machines.

Wow, this is an old thread (over 3 years)!

KEYB requiring a 286 or better is based solely on:

$ grep 286 *
KEYBMSG.DE:STR2_7 = 'KEYB braucht (immer noch) einen AT/286 oder besser';
KEYBMSG.NLS:STR2_7 = 'Keyb (still) requires an AT/286 or better';

Being an English language and keyboard user, I neither use nor possess 
knowledge on using various NLS support programs like KEYB. So if there is 
support for hardware older than a 286 or options that provide compatibility, I 
would not know they exist.

:-)

Jerome

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