Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

Well said. :) Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, March 17th, 2024 at 8:57 PM, Ben Collver via Freedos-user wrote: > > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:26:05 +0100 > > From: tom ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de > > To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:26:05 +0100 > From: tom ehlert > To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos? > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 6:26 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user > > wrote: > > [..] > >> There are good reasons

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

Hi Jim, > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 6:26 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user > wrote: > [..] >> There are good reasons that DOS went away some 35 years ago. It has >> its uses but not being able to flip to another window or another >> screen to consult documentation, or try something out, or look it

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:28 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Doing a quick count of _everything_ in the source tree, including > tools and tests, from version 2.43 in Jeremy's GitHub > (https://github.com/FDOS/kernel/releases/tag/ke2043) I found this

Re: [Freedos-user] COM Port in AMBIOS - specifications for TouchScreen?

Thomas in the unlikely scenario, that the driver you have gets you nowhere, I can provide the unpacked DOS drivers I have in my archive, for RS232-based TS controllers by 3M, ELO, GroovyTouch, PenMount, and eGalax=TouchKit=HanTouch. I have one more suggestion. Divide and conquer. You may want

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

Oberon is so small because it lacks all the features an operating system must have. These omissions are why the author never compares Oberon to popular operating systems--it is a lost cause. Reviewer: J. Klaczak (https://www.computingreviews.com/review/review_review.cfm?review_id=125993) > On

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

> I know it might sound kind of anti-progressive or even silly, to argue with > »slowing down« things. »Multi Tasking« is (was?) a lie. It isn’t real for us > humans in a good sense. Single user, single task - in 2024!> Definitely echoing this idea (not quite sure about the "lie" part, though

Re: [Freedos-user] Why DOS?

On 3/17/24 14:07, Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:28 PM Alvah Whealton via Freedos-user wrote: This question has arisen several times. I choose DOS because going back to the Commodore 64 is so impractical for me. I used DOS when I was growing up. My first

Re: [Freedos-user] COM Port in AMBIOS - specifications for TouchScreen?

COM ports at legacy ISA (-like) addresses are still available in a plethora of "industrial"/embedded motherboards and computers in various oddball mechanical form factors. And, quite often there are four or even six of them. Sometimes not all are available at coastline DB9 connectors, some may

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:43:28 +0100, Tomas By via Freedos-user wrote: > It's more useful to count the number of semicolons (in C and related > languages). I get 6283 for the FreeDOS kernel (the C files). /Tomas ___ Freedos-user mailing list

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:26:49 +0100, Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote: > All *.c and *.h files: 29,510 lines > (these are C language files) > That also includes blank lines, though. It's more useful to count the number of semicolons (in C and related languages). /Tomas

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:51:40 +0100, Thomas Cornelius Desi via Freedos-user wrote: > Question to [Jim]: Do you know how many LINES the FREEDOS Kernel has? MS-DOS 2.0 seems to have around 50k loc (just the number of newlines, not sure if that makes sense for assembler). To convert to C, divide by

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:52 PM Thomas Cornelius Desi wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > Question to you: Do you know how many LINES the FREEDOS Kernel has? > > Thanks, Thomas > Doing a quick count of _everything_ in the source tree, including tools and tests, from version 2.43 in Jeremy's GitHub

Re: [Freedos-user] COM Port in AMBIOS - specifications for TouchScreen?

In my archive, I have a copy of some driver package for 3M MicroTouch. Not sure if it matches the one of yours. The directory contains the following files: DOSPANEL.EXE DOSPANEL.HLP DOSPEN.EXE DOSTOUCH.EXE DOSTOUCH.INI DOSTOUCH.OVL MCAL.OVL MICROCAL.EXE MICROCAL.HLP MTCONFIG.EXE MTSFONT.BIN

Re: [Freedos-user] Why DOS?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:28 PM Alvah Whealton via Freedos-user wrote: > > This question has arisen several times. I choose DOS because going back to > the Commodore 64 is so impractical for me. > I used DOS when I was growing up. My first computer was an Apple II at school, and then my

Re: [Freedos-user] COM Port in AMBIOS - specifications for TouchScreen?

Typically, that is the correct address for com1.  Com 2 is IRQ 3, and 2F8.  Com 3 and 4 if they are supported by the bios are 3E8, and 2E8 generally. I've unfortunately never had a dos machine with all 4 com ports active.  I've used com 3 or 4 periodically with an additional com card, but it

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

Hi Jim, Question to you: Do you know how many LINES the FREEDOS Kernel has? Thanks, Thomas PS. regarding your understandable reaction on Liam’s earlier mail, I don’t mind too much his »No« to FREEDOS as I personally have my reasons why I would want to explore FreeDos more in depth. As I

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 6:26 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user wrote: [..] > There are good reasons that DOS went away some 35 years ago. It has > its uses but not being able to flip to another window or another > screen to consult documentation, or try something out, or look it up > online, is a

[Freedos-user] Why DOS?

This question has arisen several times. I choose DOS because going back to the Commodore 64 is so impractical for me. Al Whealton ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

[Freedos-user] COM Port in AMBIOS - specifications for TouchScreen?

For some experimental reasons I got a 19« 3M Touchscreen for the RS-232 Port. (I attached the VGA cable and the RS-232 cable on both sides) (The monitor is functional as a monitor-only. Seller tells me touch function is working…) My question is about the RS-232 COM1 port. The AMBIOS (my

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

Thanks, Liam, for your insightful and realistic considerations. I can't object, but would bring in my argument. I know it might sound kind of anti-progressive or even silly, to argue with »slowing down« things. »Multi Tasking« is (was?) a lie. It isn’t real for us humans in a good sense.

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 at 23:06, Thomas Cornelius Desi wrote: > > That is the main reason: smaller and… simpler. There are good reasons that DOS went away some 35 years ago. It has its uses but not being able to flip to another window or another screen to consult documentation, or try something

Re: [Freedos-user] Report back: QEMU - Max size of Linux access folder

On Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 3:27 AM hms--- via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Correction. My apologies. My memory doesn't work all that well these days. > Re. Linux error on boot up. I incorrectly said deleting the files in the > /dev/crash directory fixed the problem. >

Re: [Freedos-user] QEMU: -display option

I have found a partial solution. I can invoke QEMU successfully with the command below. No display option is specified:-  qemu-system-i386 -m 16 -rtc base=localtime -drive file=dos.img,index=0,media=disk,format=raw -drive file=fat:rw:dosfiles/,format=raw -boot order=c -enable-kvm It is

Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos?

Great! I would look for BASIC as a frist step anyways. Regards! > On 17.03.2024, at 05:09, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > It does work indeed. :) > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > On Saturday, March 16th, 2024 at 11:28 PM, Jeremy Leonard