Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-18 Thread Bill Haught
So, even though I can't access the hard drive in Freecdos, the firmware update 
should work?




On Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:57 PM, tomehlert t...@tomehlert.de wrote:

 As I mentioned earlier, Freedos requires a ATA legacy mode in BIOS, which I 
 don't have.
wrong.

 Found this in the archives
 http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/message/26625851/

  UIDE/UIDEJR can run AHCI drives on mainboards that have a legacy or 
 native IDE
  setting for AHCI controllers, i.e. the drives can be addressed
 using standard SATA/IDE I-O logic.

right.  UIDE doesn't work on AHCI controllers - and isn´t required for
FreeDOS.
FreeDOS is perfectly happy without UIDE.
(UIDE might even get in the way of updating your HD firmware.)

AS SAID BEFORE
 search for RUFUS (RUFUS_v1.2)
 install to USB key

 add your WD files
 boot from USB key


your  'update  HD  Firmware'  Software should take care about anything
else (even only to tell you 'this software requires windows')

Tom






  On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:01 PM, Bill Haught wlhaughtpr...@att.net 
wrote:
  


 Mine is a Western Digital WD10EALX. 
  The file R313263.exe extracts
 to C:\dell\drivers\R313263.  The readme.txt in the directory is as follows:


 THE INFORMATION, FIRMWARE AND  TOOLS, AND ALL ASSOCIATED UPDATES
 AND MODIFICATIONS (THE “INFORMATION”), CONTAINED HEREIN IS PROVIDED
 ON AN “AS-IS” BASIS AND WD ASSUMES NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER WITH
 RESPECT TO SUCH INFORMATION UNDER ANY CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, STRICT
 LIABILITY OR OTHER LEGAL OR EQUITABLE THEORY, EVEN IF WD HAS BEEN
 ADVISED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.  
  
 WD EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL EXPRESS AND IMPLIED WARRANTIES IN
 CONNECTION WITH THE INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN, INCLUDING
 WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
  AND
 INFRINGEMENT OF ANY PATENT, COPYRIGHT OR OTHER INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHT.





 Installation  

 1. Extract .zip file to a known path
 2. Copy WD.bat and WD4082.exe to root directory of a bootable USB key.
 3. Boot from USB key and ensure drive path includes WD.bat and WD4082.exe.
 4. Type WD and hit Enter.
 5. Firmware update will provide messaging indicating successful update.

 Note: Update checks current firmware version and will not run on identical 
 version.



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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
The main reason I want Freedos is to flash my hard drive with the latest 
firmware.  I assume that the hard drive cannot be found for this purpose 
without legacy ATA support.  I suppose unnecessary drivers (or worse necessary 
ones?) can brick a hard drive too? 

I wonder if it would be better if companies such as Western Digital provide a 
Linux image or ISO or something?

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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
Found this in the archives 
http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/message/26625851/

 UIDE/UIDEJR can run AHCI drives on mainboards that have a legacy or native 
IDE
 setting for AHCI controllers, i.e. the drives can be addressed using standard 
SATA/IDE I-O logic.

In simple terms, I'm screwed.

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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
Mine is a Western Digital WD10EALX.  The file R313263.exe extracts to 
C:\dell\drivers\R313263.  The readme.txt in the directory is as follows:

THE INFORMATION, FIRMWARE AND TOOLS, AND ALL ASSOCIATED UPDATES AND 
MODIFICATIONS (THE “INFORMATION”), CONTAINED HEREIN IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS-IS” 
BASIS AND WD ASSUMES NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER WITH RESPECT TO SUCH INFORMATION 
UNDER ANY CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHER LEGAL OR EQUITABLE 
THEORY, EVEN IF WD HAS BEEN ADVISED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. 
 
WD EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL EXPRESS AND IMPLIED WARRANTIES IN CONNECTION WITH 
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, 
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND INFRINGEMENT OF ANY PATENT, COPYRIGHT OR 
OTHER INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHT.





Installation 

1. Extract .zip file to a known path
2. Copy WD.bat and WD4082.exe to root directory of a bootable USB key.
3. Boot from USB key and ensure drive path includes WD.bat and WD4082.exe.
4. Type WD and hit Enter.
5. Firmware update will provide messaging indicating successful update.

Note: Update checks current firmware version and will not run on identical 
version.
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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
The readme says bootable USB key  I assume they mean a DOS one. Especially 
due to licensing issues making one that boots Windows is a *REAL* project.l 



On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:01 PM, Bill Haught wlhaughtpr...@att.net wrote:
 


Mine is a Western Digital WD10EALX.  The file R313263.exe extracts to 
C:\dell\drivers\R313263.  The readme.txt in the directory is as follows:

THE INFORMATION, FIRMWARE AND TOOLS, AND ALL ASSOCIATED UPDATES AND 
MODIFICATIONS (THE “INFORMATION”), CONTAINED HEREIN IS PROVIDED ON AN “AS-IS” 
BASIS AND WD ASSUMES NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER WITH RESPECT TO SUCH INFORMATION 
UNDER ANY CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, STRICT LIABILITY OR OTHER LEGAL OR EQUITABLE 
THEORY, EVEN IF WD HAS BEEN ADVISED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES. 
 
WD EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ALL EXPRESS AND IMPLIED WARRANTIES IN CONNECTION WITH 
THE INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN, INCLUDING WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, 
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND INFRINGEMENT OF ANY PATENT, COPYRIGHT OR 
OTHER INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHT.





Installation 

1. Extract .zip file to a known path
2. Copy WD.bat and WD4082.exe to root directory of a bootable USB key.
3. Boot
 from USB key and ensure drive path includes WD.bat and WD4082.exe.
4. Type WD and hit Enter.
5. Firmware update will provide messaging indicating successful update.

Note: Update checks current firmware version and will not run on identical 
version.


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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught

dmccunney:
Note that says installation disk.  That means you can potentially
start an install of Vista/7 from a USB drive.  It does not mean you
can create a portable Windows installation that will *run* from a
thumbdrive.

Me:
If I can copy files to the flash drive
and get to a DOS prompt and run a program such as a firmware update 
I'm happy.  I don't need a portable Windows installation.  My guess 
though is that it is a DOS program, in which case I expect the computer 
to freeze before bricking the hard drive. 


Incidentally, why do you need to flash the BIOS on the WD drive?

If the drive is performing as expected, it might not be necessary.
Does the BIOS update provide something you have to have?

I can probably do without.  It doesn't really seem worth all this effort.  I 
like to keep everything up to date.


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Re: [Freedos-user] legacy ATA support

2014-07-17 Thread Bill Haught
dmccunney:
Note that says installation disk.  That means you can potentially
start an install of Vista/7 from a USB drive.  It does not mean you
can create a portable Windows installation that will *run* from a
thumbdrive.

Me: If I can copy files to the flash drive and get to a DOS prompt and run a 
program such as a firmware update I'm happy.  I don't need a portable Windows 
installation.  Even the installation disk allows you to get to the C:\. My 
guess though is that it is a DOS program, in which case I expect the computer 
to freeze before bricking the hard drive.

I can probably do without.  It doesn't really seem worth all this effort.  I 
like to keep everything up to date.

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[Freedos-user] Rufus error messages

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught
I tried Rufus again, this time writing down error messages.

C: HD1, Pri[ 1], CHS=  0-32-33, start= 1MB, size= 14792MB
BIOS reported 0 sectors/track, assuming 63!
BIOS reported 0 sectors/track, assuming 63!
D: HD3, Pri[ 1], CHS=  0-32-33, start= 1MB, size= 200MB

BIOS reported 0 sectors/track, assuming 63!

Info about Freedos used by Rufus:
FreeDOS kernel 2041 (build 2041 OEM:0xfd)
Kernel compatibility 7.10 - WATCOMC - FAT32 support

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Re: [Freedos-user] Rufus error messages

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught
I figured it out. USB Operation Mode at High Speed interferes with Freedos 
installation and USB flash drive booting.  ACPI Suspend Type at S3 also 
interferes with Freedos installation.  I haven't actually installed Freedos 
yet, but I can get a listing of the partitions on the hard disk with fdisk.

After installing Rufus I ran dd to put an image on the disk (compressed file 
from 
chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/FreeDos-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img.bz2).
 This was before I figured out the BIOS settings which interfered with booting. 
When booting from a flash USB drive, I can't access the hard drive, DVD drive, 
or the USB hard drive.  I can access the USB flash drive fine, at least with 
the dir command.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Rufus error messages

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught
Here is my autoexec.bat file below.  Note it has uide.sys and shsucdx already.  
I don't know if the options are correct for my system, though.  The last time I 
messed with DOS was about 15-20 years ago when I didn't have a CD Drive, let 
alone a DVD drive.  By the way, it plays Blu-ray disks too, don't know if that 
matters.  The only difference between using 
FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-2048M.img.bz2 and the manual HOWTO 
(http://chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/howto/) as far as the 
autoexec.bat file goes is one has mouse and the other ctmouse.


@echo off 
set lang=EN
set PATH=%dosdir%\bin
set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS 
set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP
set temp=%dosdir%\temp
set tmp=%dosdir%\temp
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330
set DIRCMD=/P /OGN
if %config%==4 goto end
lh doslfn 
SHSUCDX /QQ /D3
IF EXIST FDBOOTCD.ISO LH SHSUCDHD /Q /F:FDBOOTCD.ISO
LH FDAPM APMDOS
if %config%==2 LH SHARE
REM LH DISPLAY CON=(EGA,,1)
REM NLSFUNC C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
REM MODE CON CP PREP=((858) A:\cpi\EGA.CPX)
REM MODE CON CP SEL=858
REM CHCP 858
REM LH KEYB US,,C:\FDOS\bin\KEY\US.KL  
ctmouse 
DEVLOAD /H /Q %dosdir%\bin\uide.sys /D:FDCD0001 /S5
ShsuCDX /QQ /~ /D:?SHSU-CDH /D:?FDCD0001 /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003
mem /c /n
shsucdx /D
goto end
:end
SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat
SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys
alias reboot=fdapm warmboot 
alias halt=fdapm poweroff 
echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation
echo.
echo Welcome to FreeDOS 1.1
echo.

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Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught
You can get a 16GB flash drive at MaoMart, I mean Walmart, of course for 
US$12.97 (at least in Cleveland, OH).


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Re: [Freedos-user] Rufus error messages

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught
The autoexec.bat file is the default Freedos batch file.

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Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught
USB drive, of course.




On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:41 PM, Bill Haught wlhaughtpr...@att.net wrote:
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US$12.97 (at least in Cleveland, OH).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Rufus error messages

2014-07-16 Thread Bill Haught



I'm honestly too dumb to know what I'm talking about here, but 
you'll have to enable legacy mode that doesn't use SATA or 
AHCI or whatever. If your machine doesn't allow that, then you're out 
of luck.

Only SATA Modes available are AHCI and RAID

Looks like I'm S.O.L.


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[Freedos-user] Blinking Cursor when booting Freedos

2014-07-15 Thread Bill Haught
I got to the point where I got a blinking cursor in the top left corner of the 
screen when booting Freedos.  I decided to try booting from two other computers 
and from what I can tell, Freedos works on the other two computers.

On the computer where Freedos isn't working, there aren't a whole lot of BIOS 
options, but I wrote down everything I thought might possibly be a problem.

Dell XPS 7100 BIOS ver A06
64-bit processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
USB Flash Drive: TOSHIBA TransM
How-to used: http://chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/howto/


BIOS settings:
Secure Virtual Machine Mode: Enabled
AMD Cool 'N' Quiet: Enabled
USB Operation Mode: High Speed
Numlock Key: On
Keyboard Errors: Report
ACPI Suspend Type: S3
Remote Wake Up:Enabled
AC Recovery: Power Off
Auto Power On: Disabled

Any Ideas?  FAQs I should read?


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Re: [Freedos-user] Blinking Cursor when booting Freedos

2014-07-15 Thread Bill Haught



In case you missed it, I am talking about a flash drive.  Also, when using the 
howto mentioned in the previous post, I used Ubuntu 14.04 LTS which has a 
highly invasive and unsupported modification of SYSLINUX called gfxboot.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Blinking Cursor when booting Freedos

2014-07-15 Thread Bill Haught





USB flash drive

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Re: [Freedos-user] Blinking Cursor when booting Freedos

2014-07-15 Thread Bill Haught
I used the FreeDos bootable USB flash drive HOWTO not the img file supplied 
on the web site.  Doing the latter it or using the FreeDos bootable image 
generation HOWTO causes problems, for example, when booting I got disk 
geometry problems.  I didn't follow all the directions exactly, since I used 
graphical tools when possible and the HOWTO didn't tell me about aligning the 
drive, whatever that means.  I used Gparted and left a megabyte at the 
beginning and end of the drive.   Like I said, a preliminary check on two other 
computers seems to indicate I did things correctly.  I got a DOS prompt and was 
able to get a directory listing of the drive.



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So, you followed the instructions exactly?  What was the output for dd 
if=FreeDOS-1.1-memstick-2-256MB.img of=/dev/sdz bs=512k?  What is the output 
of fdisk /dev/sdz?



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USB flash drive


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[Freedos-user] Trying to install Freedos 1.1 reboots computer

2014-07-15 Thread Bill Haught
I need to reinstall Windows anyway, so I thought I'd try installing Freedos 
first since I have a USB flash drive that boots on two computers I have access 
to but not on my computer.  I have already included my system information in 
the thread Blinking Cursor when booting Freedos.  I believe the problem two 
problems are related and boil down to BIOS settings or hardware 
incompatibility.  

Install to harddisk and Create drive C: reboots the computer.  Boot from 
system harddisk works right, bringing up the GRUB menu.

I have multiple partitions and would like to install to the one of my choice. 

Any Ideas?  FAQs I should read?


For convenience the system info is reposted:


Dell XPS 7100 BIOS ver A06
64-bit processor: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T
USB Flash Drive: TOSHIBA TransM
How-to used: http://chtaube.eu/computers/freedos/bootable-usb/howto/


BIOS settings:
Secure Virtual Machine Mode: Enabled
AMD Cool 'N' Quiet: Enabled
USB Operation Mode: High Speed
Numlock Key: On
Keyboard Errors: Report
ACPI Suspend Type: S3
Remote Wake Up:Enabled
AC Recovery: Power Off
Auto Power On: Disabled

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