[Freedos-user] One use case for FreeDos

[Dan Schmidt via Freedos-user]

Now, that's an interesting use for a Dos/FreeDos retro computer:

https://www.theverge.com/2014/5/14/5716232/george-r-r-martin-uses-dos-wordstar-to-write

How many computers destined for the landfill still have perfectly good
screens and keyboards?  (Recalling those heavy, grey, indestructible PS2
keyboards where the keys snapped back up with a vigour that seemed to sent
your fingers flying on to the next character)  Now, I might have gone with
WordPerfect 6 instead of WordStar 4, but the idea itself is solid: A
computer that you just use for writing, sans distractions. No YouTube, no
Email, no Facebook - you sit - you write.  I mean, it's hard to argue it
didn't work well for this guy!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos, laptops, and the internet?

[Dan Schmidt]

https://github.com/AnttiTakala/SSH2DOS

Unfortunately, it did not seem to work anymore last time I tried it.  It
may be possible to enable some legacy ciphers on the ssh server to make it
work.  Personally, I telnet to another PC and and ssh from there.

On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 7:42 PM tauro via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> That's great news!
> Where can it be found?
> Would you please share a link to it?
>
> Thank you
>
> Tauro
>
> On 2/6/23 21:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Yes, actually.
> > someone updated sshdos so that it can support more current dh keys and
> > so forth.
> > Using it as I write in fact.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Jun 2023, tauro via Freedos-user wrote:
> >
> >> Since you're talking about the internet, considering one is
> >> successful setting up the NIC,
> >>
> >> Is there a fully working/updated SSH client for DOS? With support for
> >> current ciphers, MACs and kex algorithms?
> >>
> >> Tauro
> >>
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Re: [Freedos-user] New mTCP available

[Dan Schmidt]

Thanks all for your comments, I'm aware of the ssh2dos project and
suggested noise.sys to help with security.

I'm glad to hear Unicode in mTCP Telnet is on the table and would like to
thank Mike for his continued work.  (PC fished from trash + FreeDos + mTCP
Telnet = quick, cheap terminal for lab use)

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 11:46 AM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> It was mentioned recently that ssh2dos was updated last year to include
> the newer protocols.
>
>
> https://github.com/AnttiTakala/SSH2DOS
>
> Would be awesome to see if mTCP improved the networking throughput or
> latency.
>
> At some point I’d love sit down and try to get the mTCP ported to djgpp
> but the last time I tried I was having issues managing the buffer space in
> and out of the lower 1MB.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 2:49 AM Liam Proven  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 at 01:13, Michael Brutman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Computationally, SSH is not feasible on the 16 bit machines that I
>> target for this project.
>> > Even with enough compute power, you need to find DOS equivalents of all
>> of the libraries.  Which includes the ciphers, key exchanges, etc.  And
>> then you need to port those, and what they depend on to DOS.  Without
>> introducing security holes.
>> > SSH ciphers are a moving target.  What is acceptable today will be
>> deprecated in a few years.  It is difficult to keep up.
>>
>> Agreed. Modern cryptography is one of the relatively few things that uses
>> the large amount of bandwidth of modern CPUs.
>>
>> It's possible to run older versions of OpenBSD on 30+ year old DEC
>> minicomputers, for example. It was dropped only because Theo de Raadt
>> couldn't get modern VAXstation hardware to compile it on. I tried to
>> donate a VAXstation 4000/90 to the project when I emigrated -- Red Hat was
>> going to ship it to Canada from the UK for me.
>>
>> De Raadt changed his mind when he learned it wasn't the fastest model,
>> and Red Hat Farnborough lost the machine. 
>>
>> Anyway, making new SSH keys on a VAX took as much as a couple of *days*
>> in some instances.
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] New mTCP available

[Dan Schmidt]

Indeed good news, and would be swell if Brutman compiled an ssh client with
his excellent library as well.  :-)

On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 3:49 AM Lukas Satin  wrote:

> Hi, perfect! Good news!
>
> So, in the future, I could modify this RLoader DOS game browser library to
> include some IRC chat with chatbot and people:
> https://github.com/marco-sacchi/RLoader ...it could solve as a basis for
> DOS internet communication for retro gamers. Just show how many gamers
> online in the past 1 hour and option to ping someone for online play. Then
> there would be some additional setup required for IPX bridge over TCP/IP
> (use some modern machine on LAN or Raspberry Pi) and then it would be
> possible to start and communicate some online play on 386DX and 486DX and
> up (Doom, Duke, Warcraft, Need For Speed, Carmageddon). Perhaps also Serial
> link games over TCP/IP like Retaliator. I have this idea in my mind for the
> last few months.
>
> The game browser and IRC would act as an entrypoint to find people and
> negotiate. Because currently they are spread in different timezones in
> local Facebook groups and it is difficult to get the timing right with
> people. They often read the message late and after 1 hour nobody play
> anymore.
>
> Lukas
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 6:19 PM Jim Hall  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 7:39 PM Michael Brutman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just for a little bit ... :)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's what I figured. That's why I only hid the mirror, but didn't
>> delete it. :-)
>>
>> Let me know when you're comfortable with it and I'll unhide the mirror
>> directory.
>>
>> Jim
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Re: [Freedos-user] From BTTR: FAT32 ramdisk, SvarCOM shell, Doszip commander

[Dan Schmidt]

Off topic and flagrant necromancy, yet I'll briefly note somebody (kind of)
did. * (Disclaimer: "correct" loosely defined)*

https://bestofcpp.com/repo/AnttiTakala-SSH2DOS

P.S.  Thanks Eric

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 5:45 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Seems like some fine efforts.
> Speaking personally, I wish someone would devote time to  upgrading ssh
> for  dos, so that the  dh key exchange issue was corrected.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, Eric Auer wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Today is a day full of announcements on BTTR-SOFTWARE.DE :-)
> >
> > https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18797
> >
> >>  RDRVSX32: FAT32 RAM drive for HimemSX (Announce)
> >>
> >>  posted by jadoxa, Queensland, Australia, 13.03.2022, 13:58
> >>
> >>  I had a request (via email) to create a RAM drive greater than 4GiB.
> >>  It sort of works (works on his and mine 8GiB AMD, but has issues with
> >>  his 32GiB Intel) so if anyone has the time and inclination to test,
> >>  that'd be great. You will need more than 4GiB RAM (in order to access
> >>  super-extended memory), preferably more than 8GiB (in order to test
> >>  accessing beyond 4GiB). Our testing has been simple so far: just copy
> >>  large files (he was able to create a 28GiB RAM drive, copy hundreds
> >>  of 64MiB files, but it fails copying a 1GiB file).
> >
> > Link: http://shsufdrv.adoxa.vze.com/rdrvsx32.zip
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18799
> >
> >>  Doszip Commander version 2.63 available (Announce)
> >>
> >>  posted by rr, Berlin, Germany, 13.03.2022, 14:20
> >>
> >>  On 02 March 2022 Hjort Nidudsson released a new version.
> >>
> >>  Home page: https://github.com/nidud/doszip
> >>  Download: https://github.com/nidud/doszip/releases/tag/v2.63
> >>
> >>  Changes since version 2.55 are:
> >>  Changes in 2.63 - 2 Mar 2022
> >>  - extended country-specific date format
> >>
> >>  Changes in 2.58 - 15 Feb 2022
> >>  - added country-specific date format
> >>
> >>  Changes in 2.57 - 12 Feb 2022
> >>  - changed "Jump" to "Skip" in Delete dialog
> >>  - fixed color issue in Move dialog
> >>  - fixed issue with pipe command -- unzip -hh | more
> >
> >
> >
> > https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18798
> >
> >>  On 13 March 2022 Mateusz Viste released SvarCOM version 2022.3.
> >>
> >>  What is SvarCOM?
> >>
> >>  Quoting from http://svardos.org/svarcom/:
> >>  SvarCOM is the SvarDOS command line interpreter, known usually under
> >>  the name "COMMAND.COM". It is designed and maintained by Mateusz
> >>  Viste, and distributed under the terms of the MIT license.
> >>
> >>  For the time being, it is a work-in-progress project that - although
> >>  functional - is not entirely polished yet and might miss a few bits
> >>  and pieces. SvarCOM version 2022.0 must be considered a "preview"
> >>  version. See the documentation included in the zip file for details.
> >>
> >>  SvarCOM is minimalist and I'd like to keep it that way. It aims to be
> >>  functionaly equivalent to COMMAND.COM from MS-DOS 5.x/6.x. No LFN
> >>  support.
> >>
> >>  As of version 2022.0, SvarCOM's resident footprint is under 2 KiB.
> >>
> >>  What is new in version 2022.3?
> >>
> >>  Here is his 2022.3 announcement to the SvarDOS mailing list:
> >>  Hello all,
> >>
> >>  SvarCOM 2022.3 has been published right now. It comes with many
> >>  improvements and bug fixes. Many thanks to Robert Riebisch who
> dedicated
> >>  a lot of time to perform extensive tests on SvarCOM and had the
> strength
> >>  to annoy me over and over about the various glitches he found.
> >>
> >>  The new SvarCOM package is already available on the SvarDOS packages
> >>  repository. It can also be downloaded from the SvarCOM sub-project page
> >>  at http://svardos.org/svarcom
> >>
> >>  As an experiment I did a SvarDOS build that uses SvarCOM instead of
> >>  FreeCOM. It is the build 20220312, available in the "files" section of
> >>  the website: http://svardos.org/?p=files
> >>
> >>  If this build proves stable enough, it might become the default
> download
> >>  presented on the main page, but for now it needs some testing. There is
> >>  also still one or two things that needs to be added (like DIR/O
> support).
> >>
> >>  The main advantage of SvarCOM over the legacy FreeCOM is that the
> former
> >>  is much lighter (2K of memory footprint), which is esp. important on
> >>  pre-386 machines.
> >>
> >>  An interesting side effect of replacing FreeCOM by SvarCOM is that some
> >>  of the SvarDOS floppy sets decreased:
> >>
> >>  720K set went from 4 floppies to 3 floppies
> >>  1.2M set went from 3 floppies to 2 floppies
> >>
> >>  Other sets remained the same amount of floppies (6x 360K, 2x 1.44M and
> >>  1x 2.88M)
> >>
> >>  Note for the future: there are cases where it is possible to decrease
> >>  the amount of floppies simply by ordering files on the floppies
> >>  differently. For instance, it is possible to decrease the 360K set to 5
> >>  

Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be mantained

[Dan Schmidt]

Good to know, it used to be unstable.

Well, I shall be quite darned.  A post on the Lynx forum (strange place for
it) says Arachne and DosLynx have returned from the dead.  Somebody should
keep a list somewhere of currently maintained DOS browsers.

http://macall.net/info.htm
http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18569

In the unlikely case that somebody stumbles upon this threat looking for
advice, my two cents follow:
If you only try one, try Links.  That said, although it's harder to set up
(infernal options that don't save unless you edit config), Lynx (the
original, I haven't tried DosLynx yet) is rock solid and you can also surf
the nearly forgotten gopher tunnels that live just under the surface of the
www. They both do TLS just fine.



On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 5:22 PM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> Yes.  In DOS, in Linux, in Mac`links -g` works great for me.
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 8:17 PM Dan Schmidt  wrote:
>
>> Have you tried links -g ?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:11 PM Louis Santillan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I haven’t had many crashes in Links2 in normal browsing.  I have been
>>> able to make it crash calling out to external programs or by shelling out
>>> and trying to return to the browser.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:17 AM Dan Schmidt 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Links and Lynx both do TLS currently on DOS.  Links will even do
>>>> images, but it's prone to crash in gui mode.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:09 AM Louis Santillan 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't Links2 do TLS?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 3:45 PM Jim Hall  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:28 PM Jose Senna  wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Liam Proven said:
>>>>>> > > There were DOS email and chat and FTP
>>>>>> > > clients; that stuff's fairly easy.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Were is the right word. Most email
>>>>>> > servers nowadays require TLS, which
>>>>>> > is not available in DOS email clients.
>>>>>> > There are few remaining FTP servers,
>>>>>> > and I cannot tell how many also need
>>>>>> > TLS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why I made sure you can access the FreeDOS website from
>>>>>> http://www.freedos.org/ and https://www.freedos.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're using a DOS web browser, I don't think any DOS web browser
>>>>>> can manage today's SSL, so you need http instead of https.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the links from freedos.org to other websites mostly use https, I
>>>>>> think. Because not everyone wants to set up both http and https for a
>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be mantained

[Dan Schmidt]

Have you tried links -g ?

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:11 PM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> I haven’t had many crashes in Links2 in normal browsing.  I have been able
> to make it crash calling out to external programs or by shelling out and
> trying to return to the browser.
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:17 AM Dan Schmidt  wrote:
>
>> Links and Lynx both do TLS currently on DOS.  Links will even do images,
>> but it's prone to crash in gui mode.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:09 AM Louis Santillan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't Links2 do TLS?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 3:45 PM Jim Hall  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:28 PM Jose Senna  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Liam Proven said:
>>>> > > There were DOS email and chat and FTP
>>>> > > clients; that stuff's fairly easy.
>>>> >
>>>> > Were is the right word. Most email
>>>> > servers nowadays require TLS, which
>>>> > is not available in DOS email clients.
>>>> > There are few remaining FTP servers,
>>>> > and I cannot tell how many also need
>>>> > TLS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's why I made sure you can access the FreeDOS website from
>>>> http://www.freedos.org/ and https://www.freedos.org
>>>>
>>>> If you're using a DOS web browser, I don't think any DOS web browser
>>>> can manage today's SSL, so you need http instead of https.
>>>>
>>>> But the links from freedos.org to other websites mostly use https, I
>>>> think. Because not everyone wants to set up both http and https for a
>>>> website.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Video complains that DOS should not be mantained

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Every few months or so I drop a line about it.  Made a Dos Lynx usb boot
image once as a joke.  ("Yeah?  Well, I bet you twenty bucks I can boot
that old 32 laptop and get the weather in less than 30 seconds!")  No
javascript, but it makes a great news reader.  Pasting from my last email:

Quick FYI:

Dos lynx is still available.  Tried it - still works.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/c/4GGhcKL_ZPQ/m/cTmonuz4BQAJ

That FTP server doesn't seem to work, none of the mirrors seem to work, so
I found it here:
https://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/

Last I tried, links also worked fairly well.  Easier config, but no gopher.
http://links.twibright.com/download.php

However, in graphical mode it tends to lock up after a few pages.

Up to date cert bundles can be obtained here thanks to our friends at curl:
https://curl.se/docs/caextract.html

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:12 PM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> 2.25 is latest version
> http://links.twibright.com/download/binaries/dos/
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 3:31 PM Jose Senna  wrote:
>
>> Dan schmidt said:
>>
>>  | Links and Lynx both do TLS currently on DOS.
>>
>>  Which versions, please ?
>>  There is still the problem of javascript,
>> much used in HTTP mail pages nowadays.
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] ANN: lynx2.9.0dev.8

[Dan Schmidt]

Quick FYI:

Dos lynx is still available.  Tried it - still works.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/c/4GGhcKL_ZPQ/m/cTmonuz4BQAJ

That FTP server doesn't seem to work, none of the mirrors seem to work, so
I found it here:
https://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/djgpp/current/v2tk/

Last I tried, links also worked fairly well.  Easier config, but no gopher.
http://links.twibright.com/download.php

However, in graphical mode it tends to lock up after a few pages.

Up to date cert bundles can be obtained here thanks to our friends at curl:
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On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 1:32 PM Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Latest Lynx updates.
> as some who follow the browser may know, the development editions are
> often better then stable since they take current situations into account.
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>
> > The current version of lynx is 2.8.9
> >
> > It's available at
> >   https://lynx.invisible-island.net/
> >   ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/
> > 2.9.0 Development & patches:
> >   https://lynx.invisible-island.net/current/index.html
> >
> > Files:
> >
> ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/patches/lynx2.9.0dev.8.patch.gz
> >
> ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/patches/lynx2.9.0dev.8.patch.gz.asc
> >
> ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.9.0dev.8.tar.bz2
> >
> ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.9.0dev.8.tar.bz2.asc
> >   ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.9.0dev.8.tar.gz
> >
> ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.9.0dev.8.tar.gz.asc
> >   ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net/lynx/tarballs/lynx2.9.0dev.8.zip
> >
> > 2021-07-31 (2.9.0dev.8)
> > * regenerated lynx.pot, sent to translation project -TD
> > * align options in rpm/deb test-packages -TD
> > * change keyword-matching in Lynx's special URLs such as LYNXDOWNLOAD to
> use
> >  case-insensitive matching to work around idn2's conversion -TD
> > * build-fix for idn library vs idn2 (report by GV)
> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Netgear LNE100TX

[Dan Schmidt]

Well, I can tell you this much isn't right:
>My Ethernet Address Is FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
That driver doesn't like or can't find your card.



On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:25 AM Richard Hoffman <
richardhoffman2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been having trouble setting up my ethernet card on my freedos
> installation.   I am currently attempting to set up this card with the
> LNE100TX.com packet driver.
>
> I run the driver with LNE100TX 0x60  and I get the following
>
> Autonegotiation Not Complete
> Packet Driver Interrupt Number 0X60
> IO Port 0xDC00
> Hardware Interrupt Number 11
> Media Type Is 100baseTX Full Duplex
> My Ethernet Address Is FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF
> Packet Driver is loaded at segment 3C2
>
> I have my network wired from my DSL router to an 8 port 10/100 mbps
> switch.   From there it goes to my windows 10 pc and my freedos pc.
>
> I have tried about every switch option with the packet driver and I keep
> getting the same result.  Is this a hardware problem with the ethernet card
> or is it a router issue?
>
> Also could this be an IRQ conflict?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] networking/wifi

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Long time ago, I had an orinoco card that was 802.11b that was supposed to
work with DOS.  Could never get it to work, eventually threw it out in
frustration.

Some very good and interesting suggestions have been made.  However, I
believe the cheapest/easiest may be a simple wireless bridge.  An old
tplink wr841n can make a good bridge.

For my laptop, I bought an old IOGear GWU627.  (I have a handful of small
bridges - that one boot the fastest)  Plug it in the ethernet, usb for
power, duct tape it together and there you have it: Wireless DOS with
Lynx.
(or links, or telnet, or ftp, ect)

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:55 PM Louis Santillan  wrote:

> IMO, ISA is a better option for truly vintage machines.  I think if
> someone combined the ideas PiModem/Wifi232, Pi Virtual Floppy [0], and
> ISA8019 [2] (which is an NE2000!), then that would be the ideal.  An ISA
> card powered by a Pi Zero W that could emulate a Floppy/HDD/CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
> and provide 1000BaseT Ethernet and/or WiFi would be a super card.  Doing
> BaseT or WiFi transparently in SW like Dr. Baker did showed could be done
> in the Pi Virtual Floppy would be awesome.
>
> [0]
> https://www.smbaker.com/raspberry-pi-virtual-floppy-for-isa-pc-xtat-computers
> [1] https://github.com/Manawyrm/ISA8019
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:03 PM  wrote:
>
>> Hi! Eric
>> as for the wi-fi I have solved the problem in an empirical way: I have
>> long bought
>>
>>  a TP-Link TPL-MR3020 mini router which detects available wireless
>> networks and which
>>
>>  has an ethernet port to which I can connect my laptop .
>>
>> It also has the possibility to connect - on the move - an internet key.
>>
>> The only problem is that to configure it and to detect the networks I
>> need a win or linux browser because with LINKS - which I use in dos -it is
>> obviously not possible.
>>
>> regards
>> andrea
>>
>> Il 18.03.2021 13:55 Eric Auer ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Am just wondering if this is the current status, or some old comment:
>> "Wireless devices connected via USB can not yet be used with FreeDOS." (
>> http://freedos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/WiFi)
>>
>> This meant "USB dongles which serve as WiFi or Bluetooth modems
>> have no DOS drivers" and is still the case as far as I know:
>>
>> In rare cases, DOS drivers for PCMCIA WiFi modems have existed.
>> For current computers, the recommended workaround would be to
>> use an external WiFi to LAN converter, as it is much easier to
>> find LAN style wired network drivers for DOS.
>>
>> Similarily, I would expect Bluetooth to serial port converter
>> modules to work reasonably well with DOS: Those tend to have a
>> modem-style command system to control them and actually serial
>> interfaces between microcontrollers and Bluetooth modules are
>> widespread. It is slow enough to be useful even if not connected
>> by for example a faster SPI bus. Of course you would still need
>> a converter for RS232 signal levels. Combined products may exist.
>> Also, DOS users tend to have modem command skills and dialup tools.
>>
>> Maybe people here could talk about their experiences with specific
>> brands of WiFi LAN gateways or Bluetooth RS232 adapters in DOS :-)
>>
>> Regards, Eric
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos USB Pendrive

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I have had luck with the following:
Insert the USB pendrive BEFORE boot.  Use FDISK/FORMAT to properly format
the usb.  Shut down and remove the usb.  Put files on usb, then insert the
pendrive back in before boot.  After boot, you should be able to access the
file on usb.

I'm not sure if this works for a Pentium, I believe it depends on the
BIOS.  There are limited USB drivers for DOS, but I've never gotten them to
work.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 7:30 AM Joao Silva  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I have a pentium pc and i want to install freedos, but to copy files to
> hdd i was wondering if could be possible to use a usb pendrive
> to copy files or only floppy/cd/dvd?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Only Get Black Screen with Blinking Cursor following Installation of FreeDOS to my Machine

[Dan Schmidt]

Try the utilities fdisk and format, I've not had any luck using Gparted to
make anything FreeDos can reliably read.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:25 PM Jen via Freedos-user <
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> I’m trying to install FreeDOS onto the SSD hard drive of my ThinkPad W520
> 4284‑WZN copied to RAM from a DVD I have, using its internal DVD‑RW
> drive.
> *·* In the UEFI BIOS *[version 8BET62WW (1.42)]*, I set the boot to “*Legacy
> Only*” & the ‘SATA Controller Mode Option’ to “*Compatibility*” *mode* (*IDE
> mode*).  Reserved memory for UEFI Boot Manager has been disabled.
> *·* Using GParted on the latest 64‑bit version of SystemRescueCD *(6.1.0)*,
> I then made a *FAT32* partition as the very *first* partition (*C:\*)
> with 1 MiB free space preceding it, aligned to ‘*Cylinder*’, and made it
> 7.8 GB (7,439 MiB / 7.26 GiB), and labeled it as *“DOS”*.
> *·* After that, I inserted the FreeDOS DVD and selected the options to
> install everything to the C:\ drive, which all seemed to go well.
> *·* Upon rebooting however (or from cold boot), *all I get is an empty
> black screen with a flashing underscore cursor*.  I’ve hit *F12* on
> startup to bring up the Boot device List to ensure the hard drive is
> selected, and have tried restarting a number of times but never get
> anything other than the empty black screen with the blinking cursor of
> death.  I’ve walked away for a long time and come back, but nothing ever
> winds‑up loading – cursor continues to blink.  I’ve gone back into BIOS
> to ensure that all the options I changed saved properly and have not reset
> themselves to defaults;  everything appears as I configured it.
> *·* I reinserted the live CD and from the FreeDOS prompt, ran the command
> “bootfix c:”.  It did not fix the problem.
>
> I haven’t tried reformatting the partition and running the installation
> again yet;  I suspect it will still do the same thing.  Should I try that?
> Any ideas what I’ve done wrong or why it might not be working?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer,
>
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[Freedos-user] Lynx Live

[Dan Schmidt]

In an effort to demonstrate Lynx (ie - a text web browser) on Dos as a
viable, fast and fun option, I created a boot img to do so and squirreled
it away in the forgotten tunnels of the gophernet where I hope it shall
only be found by people who will not unduly pester me.

gopher://sdf.org/1/users/helpdeskdan/lynx

P.S.  In the interest of preventing this from devolving into a "how to
gopher" thread, just go here:
https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?=sdf.org+70+312f75736572732f68656c706465736b64616e2f6c796e78
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH - unsupported remote protocol version

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Drat!  Somebody finally caught onto to my evil plan to covertly make Linux
servers insecure!  Foiled again!  You will this one, Tom, but I'll be
back!!  Oh, I'LL BE BACK!!

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Tom Ehlert  wrote:

>
> > We did talk at length about it almost exactly a year ago.  The tldr
> > version is that you would need ssh2d386 and you have to have access
> > to modify the ssh config on the server to support older ciphers.
>
> there are GOOD reasons to not allow outdated protocols to be used.
> on what planet have you been living the last years?
>
> > All my attempts to get a decent C coder interested in updating the
> project have failed.
>
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/message/35629497/
>
> I'm not surprised
>
> Tom
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH - unsupported remote protocol version

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We did talk at length about it almost exactly a year ago.  The tldr version
is that you would need ssh2d386 and you have to have access to modify the
ssh config on the server to support older ciphers.  All my attempts to get
a decent C coder interested in updating the project have failed.

https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/mailman/message/35629497/


On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:57 PM, Rugxulo  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
> >
> > Anyhow, I recall seeing a thread earlier discussing something similar.
> At least, I think it was similar.
> > I was not very interested at the time and kinda only skimmed it. But, if
> I remember what I half glimpsed,
> > it involved something about having to add some older protocols to the
> server.  But, I’m probably mis-remembering it.
> >
> > Sorry, I really can’t be much more help than that.
>
> I'm a networking noob overall, but 
>
> Wasn't something like this discussed earlier this year, mainly by
> Ulrich Hansen? A quick search of my email archives shows a few
> messages from him about it.
>
> So maybe wait for him to chime in. (Or email him privately? Or just
> search the mailing list archives for it.)
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Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

[Dan Schmidt]

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That is a router, I can't guarantee it would work. (unless you put openwrt
on it)  However, this is built specifically to bridge:

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6

Takes around 20 seconds to connect, which is longer than it takes DOS to
boot on my machine.  (can be powered by usb)

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org> wrote:

>
> > Am 24.04.2017 um 07:07 schrieb Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Is this thread still about wireless for Dos?  If not, sorry for posting.
> >
> > If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a deck of
> cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine.  I tried a wifi
> card that supposedly supported dos - never could get it working, threw it
> away in disgust.
>
> This sounds interesting. Is it something like this?
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=psdc_300189_t2_B00HZWOQZ6
> Thanks for the hint.
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That is a router, I cant guarantee it would work.
(unless you put openwrt on it)-a However, this is built specifically to
bridge:https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6;>https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6Takes
 around 20 seconds to connect, which is longer than it takes DOS to boot on my 
machine.-a (can be powered by usb)On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Ulrich Hansen mailto:my.gr...@mailbox.org; 
target="_blank">my.gr...@mailbox.org wrote:
 Am 24.04.2017 um 07:07 schrieb Dan Schmidt mailto:helpdesk...@gmail.com;>helpdesk...@gmail.com:

 Is this thread still about wireless for Dos?-a If not, sorry for
posting.

 If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a deck of
cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine.-a I tried a wifi
card that supposedly supported dos - never could get it working, threw it away
in disgust.

This sounds interesting. Is it something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=psdc_300189_t2_B00HZWOQZ6;
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target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=psdc_300189_t2_B00HZWOQZ6
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Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of yo

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From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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Is this thread still about wireless for Dos?  If not, sorry for posting.

If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a deck of
cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine.  I tried a wifi
card that supposedly supported dos - never could get it working, threw it
away in disgust.

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Dale E Sterner <sunbeam...@juno.com> wrote:

> On Ebay I purchased a cd with unreleased Corel dos
> software. There would have been a 5.6 version had it been
> released. Some woman got it from a boyfriend who
> worked for Corel and then sold it on Ebay for about $150.
> I was high bid.
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:10:45 + "Thomas Mueller" <mueller6...@twc.com>
> writes:
> > > I have Qpro 5.6 but haven't used it yet. Still using version 3
> > > The macros are powerful and a lot earier to use than
> > > Excel. Version 5.6 is said to have a solver built in
> > > like TK solver. One of these days I'll find out.
> >
> > > cheers
> > > DS
> >
> > Last Qpro version for DOS was 5.  Was there a 5.6?  DOS or Windows?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
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Is this thread still about wireless for Dos?-a If not, sorry for
posting. If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a
deck of cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine.-a I tried a
wifi card that supposedly supported dos - never could get it working, threw it
away in disgust. On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Dale E Sterner mailto:sunbeam...@juno.com;
target="_blank">sunbeam...@juno.com wrote:On Ebay I purchased a cd with unreleased Corel dos
software. There would have been a 5.6 version had it been
released. Some woman got it from a boyfriend who
worked for Corel and then sold it on Ebay for about $150.
I was high bid.

cheers
DS


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  I have Qpro 5.6 but havent used it yet.
Still using version 3
  The macros are powerful and a lot earier to use than
  Excel. Version 5.6 is said to have a solver built in
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  cheers
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 Last Qpro version for DOS was 5.-a Was there a 5.6?-a DOS or Windows?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Creating a DOS bootable USB drive

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From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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Unetbootin will work for disk or iso, however, I have come across usb that
simply will not work for some strange reason. I have to wonder if anybody
has ever had any success simply sys-ing the usb?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jerome Shidel <jer...@shidel.net> wrote:

> Some Windows users like using utilities like Rufus ( https://rufus.akeo.ie
> ) to create their bootable USB media. But, as a non-Windows user, I donrCOt
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Unetbootin will work for disk or iso, however, I have come
across usb that simply will not work for some strange reason. I have to wonder
if anybody has ever had any success simply sys-ing the usb?On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:05
AM, Jerome Shidel mailto:jer...@shidel.net;
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

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I hope I am not committing the dreaded "forum necromancy" but I thought I
might document that the 386 version, combined with the mentioned "reset"
trick, has solved my issues with ssh2dos stability, thank you for the idea.


Also, quick type-o - "I am not sure why you would want to *run SSH* in DOS
in VirtualBox"  I did not mean to imply that running Dos on VirtualBox is
at all strange.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn't try the 386 version, perhaps that will be more stable.  Also, if
> you type "reset" before exiting, you can avoid "missing dos screen."  (IE -
> the crash every time I exited)
>
> Ulrich, my friend, I am not sure why you would want to run DOS in
> VIrtualBox on a MacBookPro, but I am glad I could help you.  :-)  Years
> ago, several other technicians laughed at me when I bought an old Pentium
> for $5 saying"You can't do anything with that!" FreeDos helped me prove
> them wrong.
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 28.01.2017 um 06:23 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>:
>>
>> To answer your question for myself, I never have this issue.  No crashes,
>> and i  can spend hours working on line.  Further I have done more than my
>> share of downloads with sftpd386 as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Dan Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>
>> My ssh2dos is very unstable - it usually crashes on exit or after five to
>> ten minutes.  Do you have this issue as well?  I am curious if I should
>> try
>> a different version of DOS.
>>
>>
>>
>> I made the same experience as Karen: I had SSH2D386 running more or less
>> the whole morning while logged into the server. I even ran rCRtoprCL for
over
>> an hour to test the program. No crashes, no sudden exits.
>>
>> Other experiences:
>>
>> - As I use FreeDOS 1.2 as guest in VirtualBox, I learned that SSH2DOS
>> does use the hostrCOs CPU by 100 percent. I limit the CPU execution cap in
>> the VirtualBox settings to 40%, but the fan of my MacBookPro is still
>> running constantly (but on a lower level than at 100%).
>>
>> - After logging into the server, I run the command "export LANG=CrCL first.
>> Otherwise rCRgraphicalrCL console programs like midnight commander or
>> dpkg-reconfigure will show wrong characters in SSH2DOS.
>>
>> So far so good. Thanks to you everything is working well now.
>>
>> Ulrich
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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I hope I am not committing the dreaded forum
necromancy but I thought I might document that the 386 version, combined
with the mentioned reset trick, has solved my issues with ssh2dos
stability, thank you for the idea. -aAlso, quick type-o -
I am not sure why you would want to run SSH in DOS in
VirtualBox -aI did not mean to imply that running Dos on VirtualBox is at
all strange. -aOn Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Dan Schmidt mailto:helpdesk...@gmail.com;
target="_blank">helpdesk...@gmail.com wrote:I didnt try the 386 version,
perhaps that will be more stable.-a Also, if you type reset before
exiting, you can avoid missing dos screen. -a(IE - the crash every
time I exited) -aUlrich, my friend, I am not sure why you
would want to run DOS in VIrtualBox on a MacBookPro, but I am glad I could help
you. -a:-) -aYears ago, several other technicians laughed at me when I bought
an old Pentium for $5 sayingYou cant do anything with that!
FreeDos helped me prove them wrong.On Sat,
Jan 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Ulrich Hansen mailto:my.gr...@mailbox.org; 
target="_blank">my.gr...@mailbox.org 
wrote:Am 
28.01.2017 um 06:23 schrieb Karen Lewellen mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net; 
target="_blank">klewel...@shellworld.net:To
 answer your question for myself, I never have this
issue.-

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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I didn't try the 386 version, perhaps that will be more stable.  Also, if
you type "reset" before exiting, you can avoid "missing dos screen."  (IE -
the crash every time I exited)

Ulrich, my friend, I am not sure why you would want to run DOS in
VIrtualBox on a MacBookPro, but I am glad I could help you.  :-)  Years
ago, several other technicians laughed at me when I bought an old Pentium
for $5 saying"You can't do anything with that!" FreeDos helped me prove
them wrong.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org> wrote:

>
> Am 28.01.2017 um 06:23 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>:
>
> To answer your question for myself, I never have this issue.  No crashes,
> and i  can spend hours working on line.  Further I have done more than my
> share of downloads with sftpd386 as well.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Dan Schmidt wrote:
>
>
> My ssh2dos is very unstable - it usually crashes on exit or after five to
> ten minutes.  Do you have this issue as well?  I am curious if I should try
> a different version of DOS.
>
>
>
> I made the same experience as Karen: I had SSH2D386 running more or less
> the whole morning while logged into the server. I even ran rCRtoprCL for over
> an hour to test the program. No crashes, no sudden exits.
>
> Other experiences:
>
> - As I use FreeDOS 1.2 as guest in VirtualBox, I learned that SSH2DOS does
> use the hostrCOs CPU by 100 percent. I limit the CPU execution cap in the
> VirtualBox settings to 40%, but the fan of my MacBookPro is still running
> constantly (but on a lower level than at 100%).
>
> - After logging into the server, I run the command "export LANG=CrCL first.
> Otherwise rCRgraphicalrCL console programs like midnight commander or
> dpkg-reconfigure will show wrong characters in SSH2DOS.
>
> So far so good. Thanks to you everything is working well now.
>
> Ulrich
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> 
> --
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> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
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I didnt try the 386 version, perhaps that will be more
stable.-a Also, if you type reset before exiting, you can avoid
missing dos screen. -a(IE - the crash every time I exited)
-aUlrich, my friend, I am not sure why you would want to
run DOS in VIrtualBox on a MacBookPro, but I am glad I could help you. -a:-)
-aYears ago, several other technicians laughed at me when I bought an old
Pentium for $5 sayingYou cant do anything with that! FreeDos
helped me prove them wrong.On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Ulrich Hansen mailto:my.gr...@mailbox.org;
target="_blank">my.gr...@mailbox.org wrote:Am 28.01.2017 um 06:23 schrieb Karen
Lewellen mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net;
target="_blank">klewel...@shellworld.net:To
 answer your question for myself, I never have this issue.-a No crashes, and i 
-acan spend hours working on line.-a Further I have done more than my share of 
downloads with sftpd386 as well.style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">On
> Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Dan Schmidt wrote:style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"> class="">style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">My
> ssh2dos is very unstable - it usually crashes on exit or after five toten 
>minutes.-a Do you have this issue as well?-a I am curious if I should trya 
>different version of DOS.I made the 
>same experience as Karen: I had SSH2D386 running more or less the whole 
>morning while logged into the server. I even ran rCRtoprCL for over an hour to 
>test the prog

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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I am unsure what it is that makes ssh2dos so unstable for me - nobody else
has this issue?

I would like to answer Ulrich on how he can modify his Ubuntu server, but
first, a warning: These algorithms were disabled because they are obsolete
and insecure.  Using a token based login, such as google-authenticator, may
be advisable if your server is public facing.

Firstly, add this to your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org
,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
Ciphers 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes128-ctr,aes256-ctr
HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss

Then, make use of the -g option - it goes BEFORE your username in ssh2dos.
You should now be able to connect.

I do not know why simply adding +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 doesn't work,
it seems it should.  Also, I was in a rush - I may be excluding some newer
options - report back if you find/add them with success.

-Dan

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> While I appreciate your desire for wisdom, I feel rather sure  my specific
> situation will not apply to anyone else here most likely.
> I use ssh2d386 to  access at least one commercial shell, but those shell
> services are maintained by others.  I am not for example accessing my own
> server.
> If the servers you desire reaching are run by other people,  give me an
> example and I will try.
> If my many years of computing has taught me anything is that the word
> Personal  is important for a reason.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, William Dudley wrote:
>
> Karen,
>>
>> If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
>> Ubuntu 16.04,
>> please share the recipe with us!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Dudley
>>
>>
>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
>>> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my office,
>>> and here at shellworld.
>>> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options, the
>>> -g
>>> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
>>> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
>>> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
>>> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
>>> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
>>> Kare
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
>>>>> package ssh2021b,  perhaps I can help you troubleshoot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Karen!
>>>>
>>>> I am using the exact same program and version.
>>>>
>>>> for the record, I am not using freedos, but  the ms dos 7.10 package
>>>>
>>>>> mentioned on this list.
>>>>> Still every day several times a day I connect  to two different servers
>>>>> using  this package.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I guess your servers still run OpenSSH in versions earlier than 6.9.
>>>>
>>>> may I ask again what your issue is presently?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Actually I have given up on it. I spent another day trying to get it to
>>>> work, but without success.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that I canrCOt connect to an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with
>>>> OpenSSH 7.2.
>>>>
>>>> SSH2D386 gives the message:
>>>>
>>>> Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
>>>> DH key exchange failed
>>>>
>>>> The server logs:
>>>> Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: kex protocol
>>>> error: type 30 seq 1 [preauth]
>>>> Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: Received
>>>> disconnect from 192.168.1.

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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I am equally as stunned - I will remember this day as the day I tried to
help somebody on the internet and they said "thank you" instead of flaming
or ignoring me.

My ssh2dos is very unstable - it usually crashes on exit or after five to
ten minutes.  Do you have this issue as well?  I am curious if I should try
a different version of DOS.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org>
wrote:

> Wow. I am stunned. This has solved the problem. I have spent more than a
> day searching for such a solution.
>
> I am now able to log into a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with OpenSSH 7.2
> Client is a fresh install of FreeDOS 1.2 where I installed ssh2dos with
> "FDNPKG install ssh2dos"
>
> Thank you very, very much!
>
> Ulrich
>
>
>
> Am 27.01.2017 um 06:39 schrieb Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>:
>
> I forgot - you may need to regenerate your keys with "ssh-keygen -A" after
> modifying the server.
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am unsure what it is that makes ssh2dos so unstable for me - nobody
>> else has this issue?
>>
>> I would like to answer Ulrich on how he can modify his Ubuntu server, but
>> first, a warning: These algorithms were disabled because they are obsolete
>> and insecure.  Using a token based login, such as google-authenticator, may
>> be advisable if your server is public facing.
>>
>> Firstly, add this to your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
>>
>> KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org
>> ,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-
>> hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
>> Ciphers 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes128-ctr,aes256-ctr
>> HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss
>>
>> Then, make use of the -g option - it goes BEFORE your username in
>> ssh2dos.  You should now be able to connect.
>>
>> I do not know why simply adding +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 doesn't work,
>> it seems it should.  Also, I was in a rush - I may be excluding some newer
>> options - report back if you find/add them with success.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> While I appreciate your desire for wisdom, I feel rather sure  my
>>> specific situation will not apply to anyone else here most likely.
>>> I use ssh2d386 to  access at least one commercial shell, but those shell
>>> services are maintained by others.  I am not for example accessing my own
>>> server.
>>> If the servers you desire reaching are run by other people,  give me an
>>> example and I will try.
>>> If my many years of computing has taught me anything is that the word
>>> Personal  is important for a reason.
>>> Kare
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, William Dudley wrote:
>>>
>>> Karen,
>>>>
>>>> If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
>>>> Ubuntu 16.04,
>>>> please share the recipe with us!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill Dudley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen <
>>>> klewel...@shellworld.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
>>>>> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my
>>>>> office,
>>>>> and here at shellworld.
>>>>> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options,
>>>>> the -g
>>>>> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
>>>>> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
>>>>> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
>>>>> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
>>>>> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
>>>>> Kare
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
&

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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I forgot - you may need to regenerate your keys with "ssh-keygen -A" after
modifying the server.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am unsure what it is that makes ssh2dos so unstable for me - nobody else
> has this issue?
>
> I would like to answer Ulrich on how he can modify his Ubuntu server, but
> first, a warning: These algorithms were disabled because they are obsolete
> and insecure.  Using a token based login, such as google-authenticator, may
> be advisable if your server is public facing.
>
> Firstly, add this to your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
>
> KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org,
> ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,
> diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
> Ciphers 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes128-ctr,aes256-ctr
> HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss
>
> Then, make use of the -g option - it goes BEFORE your username in
> ssh2dos.  You should now be able to connect.
>
> I do not know why simply adding +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 doesn't work,
> it seems it should.  Also, I was in a rush - I may be excluding some newer
> options - report back if you find/add them with success.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>> While I appreciate your desire for wisdom, I feel rather sure  my
>> specific situation will not apply to anyone else here most likely.
>> I use ssh2d386 to  access at least one commercial shell, but those shell
>> services are maintained by others.  I am not for example accessing my own
>> server.
>> If the servers you desire reaching are run by other people,  give me an
>> example and I will try.
>> If my many years of computing has taught me anything is that the word
>> Personal  is important for a reason.
>> Kare
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, William Dudley wrote:
>>
>> Karen,
>>>
>>> If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
>>> Ubuntu 16.04,
>>> please share the recipe with us!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill Dudley
>>>
>>>
>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen <
>>> klewel...@shellworld.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
>>>> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my
>>>> office,
>>>> and here at shellworld.
>>>> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options, the
>>>> -g
>>>> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
>>>> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
>>>> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
>>>> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
>>>> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
>>>> Kare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
>>>>> >:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
>>>>>> package ssh2021b,  perhaps I can help you troubleshoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Karen!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using the exact same program and version.
>>>>>
>>>>> for the record, I am not using freedos, but  the ms dos 7.10 package
>>>>>
>>>>>> mentioned on this list.
>>>>>> Still every day several times a day I connect  to two different
>>>>>> servers
>>>>>> using  this package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I guess your servers still run OpenSSH in versions earlier than 6.9.
>>>>>
>>>>> may I ask again what your issue is presently?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I have given up on it. I spent another day trying to get it 

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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They deprecated that cipher - you can make it work, but it is vulnerable.
Also, ssh2dos is very unstable in my experience.  I wish somebody would
write a decent ssh for dos.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org> wrote:

> Update:
>
> The solution I found last night seems to work only for older OpenSSH
> servers.
>
> For Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with OpenSSH 7.2.) I also had to add:
>
> HostKeyAlgorithms ssh-dss
>
> to /etc/ssh/sshd_config because ssh-dss seems to have been deactivated by
> default since OpenSSH 6.9.
>
> But in the end SSH2DOS was still not able to connect to OpenSSH 7.2.
>
> Perhaps someone has an idea?
>
> At the moment SSH2DOS can only be used to connect to older servers,
> running f.i. Debian Wheezy (OpenSSH 6.0) or Jessie (OpenSSH 6.7).
>
> So soon there will be no functioning SSH client anymore for FreeDOS. :-(
>
> Here are the messages:
>
> SSH2DOS error message is:
>
> C:\> ssh2d386 username 192.168.1.131
> SSH2DOS v0.2.1. 386+ version
> Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
> DH key exchange failed
> Remote host closed connection
> Socket write error. File: transprt.c, line:698
> Connection closed by peer
>
> On the server, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with OpenSSH 7.2.), /var/log/auth.log
> says:
>
> Jan 23 09:55:09 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[4661]: error: kex protocol error:
> type 30 seq 1 [preauth]
> Jan 23 09:55:09 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[4661]: error: Received disconnect
> from 192.168.1.110 port 564:3: Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP [preauth]
> Jan 23 09:55:09 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[4661]: Disconnected from
> 192.168.1.110 port 564 [preauth]
>
>
> C:\> ssh2d386 -d username 192.168.1.131
>
> wrote the following output in C:\SSH2DOS\DEBUG.PKT:
>
> ---
>
> RECEIVED packet:
> 14 BE 6D 01 48 D3 E5 EB 2A C1 81 DE E7 31 AB DB
> B2 00 00 00 22 64 69 66 66 69 65 2D 68 65 6C 6C
> 6D 61 6E 2D 67 72 6F 75 70 2D 65 78 63 68 61 6E
> 67 65 2D 73 68 61 31 00 00 00 07 73 73 68 2D 64
> 73 73 00 00 00 0A 61 65 73 31 32 38 2D 63 62 63
> 00 00 00 0A 61 65 73 31 32 38 2D 63 62 63 00 00
> 00 D5 75 6D 61 63 2D 36 34 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70
> 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 75 6D 61 63 2D 31
> 32 38 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63
> 6F 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 32 2D 32 35 36
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[Freedos-user] Lynx DOS

[Dan Schmidt]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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FYI - I have found this new compile of Lynx to be very stable/compatible.
If you have an old computer and want to put it to good use, FreeDOS with
lynx is an excellent option.  It's a very fast way to read weather/news
without ads.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/JJ43_KFuYbA

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FYI - I have found this new compile of Lynx to be very
stable/compatible.-a If you have an old computer and want to put it to good
use, FreeDOS with lynx is an excellent option.-a Its a very fast way to
read weather/news without ads. -ahttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/JJ43_KFuYbA;>https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/JJ43_KFuYbA

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Re: [Freedos-user] HTTPS

[DAN SCHMIDT]

From: Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>

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> Under plain DOS ? On what kind of machine ?

Sry, didn't see your response.  FreeDos, Pentium, but I'm guessing it may
run on less.  Get a nic card, an Ethernet to Wireless bridge, and you are
good to go.  And a lot of time, especially for Lynx.  Links is slightly
unstable, but easy to setup and better web page compatibility.  Lynx is
notably faster, has better shorcuts (numbered links) and runs rock solid.
 (Plus, access to the Gophernet) A great solution for reading news.  Can
provide hints on setup if needed.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Jose Antonio Senna <
jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br> wrote:

>  On 26 july, Thomas Mueller said:
>
> > ...(I) also have run Links with graphics
> > in DOS, but that was years back.
>
>   Do you remember on what machine you did this ?
>
> > I used Doug Kaufman's DOS port of Lynx for
> > online commerce but not banking, and not recently.
>
>I, too, used this port of Lynx as my main browser,
>   inclusive for e-commerce, until 2014.  During past
>   year access problems did increase a lot.
>
>  Dan Schmidt said:
>
> >  I use two that do SSL/TLS quite adequately:
> >  Links2
> >  http://links.twibright.com/download.php
> >  lynx also does ssl, but this version takes some work to get going:
> >  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/flY264GkHV8
>
>  Under plain DOS ? On what kind of machine ?
>
> Thank you for your attention
>   JAS
>
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-aUnder plain DOS ? On what
kind of machine ?Sry, didnt see your response.-a FreeDos, Pentium,
but Im guessing it may run on less.-a Get a nic card, an Ethernet to
Wireless bridge, and you are good to go.-a And a lot of time, especially for
Lynx.-a Links is slightly unstable, but easy to setup and better web page
compatibility.-a Lynx is notably faster, has better shorcuts (numbered links)
and runs rock solid. -a(Plus, access to the Gophernet) A great solution for
reading news.-a Can provide hints on setup if needed.-aOn Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:45
PM, Jose Antonio Senna mailto:jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br;
target="_blank">jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br
wrote:-aOn 26 july, Thomas Mueller
said:

 ...(I) also have run Links with graphics
 in DOS, but that was years back.

-a Do you remember on what machine you did this ?

 I used Doug Kaufmans DOS port of Lynx for
 online commerce but not banking, and not recently.

-a -aI, too, used this port of Lynx as my main browser,
-a inclusive for e-commerce, until 2014.-a During past
-a year access problems did increase a lot.

-aDan Schmidt said:

-a I use two that do SSL/TLS quite adequately:
-a Links2
-a http://links.twibright.com/download.php; rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://links.twibright.com/download.php
-a lynx also does ssl, but this version takes some work to get going:
-a https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/flY264GkHV8;
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.
jgpp/flY264GkHV8

-aUnder plain DOS ? On what kind of machine ?

Thank you for your attention
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Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files)

[Dan Schmidt]

That is a router, I can't guarantee it would work. (unless you put openwrt
on it)  However, this is built specifically to bridge:

https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6

Takes around 20 seconds to connect, which is longer than it takes DOS to
boot on my machine.  (can be powered by usb)

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org> wrote:

>
> > Am 24.04.2017 um 07:07 schrieb Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Is this thread still about wireless for Dos?  If not, sorry for posting.
> >
> > If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a deck of
> cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine.  I tried a wifi
> card that supposedly supported dos - never could get it working, threw it
> away in disgust.
>
> This sounds interesting. Is it something like this?
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TQEX8BO/ref=psdc_300189_t2_B00HZWOQZ6
> Thanks for the hint.
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Re: [Freedos-user] WIFI on DOS (was: bsum - compute BSD checksums of your files)

[Dan Schmidt]

Is this thread still about wireless for Dos?  If not, sorry for posting.

If so, I bought a wireless to ethernet bridge - smaller than a deck of
cards, runs on usb power - works great for my Dos machine.  I tried a wifi
card that supposedly supported dos - never could get it working, threw it
away in disgust.

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Dale E Sterner  wrote:

> On Ebay I purchased a cd with unreleased Corel dos
> software. There would have been a 5.6 version had it been
> released. Some woman got it from a boyfriend who
> worked for Corel and then sold it on Ebay for about $150.
> I was high bid.
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:10:45 + "Thomas Mueller" 
> writes:
> > > I have Qpro 5.6 but haven't used it yet. Still using version 3
> > > The macros are powerful and a lot earier to use than
> > > Excel. Version 5.6 is said to have a solver built in
> > > like TK solver. One of these days I'll find out.
> >
> > > cheers
> > > DS
> >
> > Last Qpro version for DOS was 5.  Was there a 5.6?  DOS or Windows?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] Creating a DOS bootable USB drive

[Dan Schmidt]

Unetbootin will work for disk or iso, however, I have come across usb that
simply will not work for some strange reason. I have to wonder if anybody
has ever had any success simply sys-ing the usb?

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:

> Some Windows users like using utilities like Rufus ( https://rufus.akeo.ie
> ) to create their bootable USB media. But, as a non-Windows user, I don’t
> know much about it.
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

I didn't try the 386 version, perhaps that will be more stable.  Also, if
you type "reset" before exiting, you can avoid "missing dos screen."  (IE -
the crash every time I exited)

Ulrich, my friend, I am not sure why you would want to run DOS in
VIrtualBox on a MacBookPro, but I am glad I could help you.  :-)  Years
ago, several other technicians laughed at me when I bought an old Pentium
for $5 saying"You can't do anything with that!" FreeDos helped me prove
them wrong.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org> wrote:

>
> Am 28.01.2017 um 06:23 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>:
>
> To answer your question for myself, I never have this issue.  No crashes,
> and i  can spend hours working on line.  Further I have done more than my
> share of downloads with sftpd386 as well.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Dan Schmidt wrote:
>
>
> My ssh2dos is very unstable - it usually crashes on exit or after five to
> ten minutes.  Do you have this issue as well?  I am curious if I should try
> a different version of DOS.
>
>
>
> I made the same experience as Karen: I had SSH2D386 running more or less
> the whole morning while logged into the server. I even ran „top“ for over
> an hour to test the program. No crashes, no sudden exits.
>
> Other experiences:
>
> - As I use FreeDOS 1.2 as guest in VirtualBox, I learned that SSH2DOS does
> use the host’s CPU by 100 percent. I limit the CPU execution cap in the
> VirtualBox settings to 40%, but the fan of my MacBookPro is still running
> constantly (but on a lower level than at 100%).
>
> - After logging into the server, I run the command "export LANG=C“ first.
> Otherwise „graphical“ console programs like midnight commander or
> dpkg-reconfigure will show wrong characters in SSH2DOS.
>
> So far so good. Thanks to you everything is working well now.
>
> Ulrich
>
>
> .
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

I am equally as stunned - I will remember this day as the day I tried to
help somebody on the internet and they said "thank you" instead of flaming
or ignoring me.

My ssh2dos is very unstable - it usually crashes on exit or after five to
ten minutes.  Do you have this issue as well?  I am curious if I should try
a different version of DOS.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:04 AM, Ulrich Hansen <my.gr...@mailbox.org>
wrote:

> Wow. I am stunned. This has solved the problem. I have spent more than a
> day searching for such a solution.
>
> I am now able to log into a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with OpenSSH 7.2
> Client is a fresh install of FreeDOS 1.2 where I installed ssh2dos with
> "FDNPKG install ssh2dos"
>
> Thank you very, very much!
>
> Ulrich
>
>
>
> Am 27.01.2017 um 06:39 schrieb Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>:
>
> I forgot - you may need to regenerate your keys with "ssh-keygen -A" after
> modifying the server.
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am unsure what it is that makes ssh2dos so unstable for me - nobody
>> else has this issue?
>>
>> I would like to answer Ulrich on how he can modify his Ubuntu server, but
>> first, a warning: These algorithms were disabled because they are obsolete
>> and insecure.  Using a token based login, such as google-authenticator, may
>> be advisable if your server is public facing.
>>
>> Firstly, add this to your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
>>
>> KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org
>> ,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-
>> hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
>> Ciphers 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes128-ctr,aes256-ctr
>> HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss
>>
>> Then, make use of the -g option - it goes BEFORE your username in
>> ssh2dos.  You should now be able to connect.
>>
>> I do not know why simply adding +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 doesn't work,
>> it seems it should.  Also, I was in a rush - I may be excluding some newer
>> options - report back if you find/add them with success.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> While I appreciate your desire for wisdom, I feel rather sure  my
>>> specific situation will not apply to anyone else here most likely.
>>> I use ssh2d386 to  access at least one commercial shell, but those shell
>>> services are maintained by others.  I am not for example accessing my own
>>> server.
>>> If the servers you desire reaching are run by other people,  give me an
>>> example and I will try.
>>> If my many years of computing has taught me anything is that the word
>>> Personal  is important for a reason.
>>> Kare
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, William Dudley wrote:
>>>
>>> Karen,
>>>>
>>>> If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
>>>> Ubuntu 16.04,
>>>> please share the recipe with us!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill Dudley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen <
>>>> klewel...@shellworld.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
>>>>> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my
>>>>> office,
>>>>> and here at shellworld.
>>>>> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options,
>>>>> the -g
>>>>> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
>>>>> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
>>>>> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
>>>>> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
>>>>> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
>>>>> Kare
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen <
>>>>>> klewel...@shellworld.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
&g

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

I forgot - you may need to regenerate your keys with "ssh-keygen -A" after
modifying the server.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Dan Schmidt <helpdesk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am unsure what it is that makes ssh2dos so unstable for me - nobody else
> has this issue?
>
> I would like to answer Ulrich on how he can modify his Ubuntu server, but
> first, a warning: These algorithms were disabled because they are obsolete
> and insecure.  Using a token based login, such as google-authenticator, may
> be advisable if your server is public facing.
>
> Firstly, add this to your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config:
>
> KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org,
> ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,
> diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
> Ciphers 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes128-ctr,aes256-ctr
> HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss
>
> Then, make use of the -g option - it goes BEFORE your username in
> ssh2dos.  You should now be able to connect.
>
> I do not know why simply adding +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 doesn't work,
> it seems it should.  Also, I was in a rush - I may be excluding some newer
> options - report back if you find/add them with success.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>> While I appreciate your desire for wisdom, I feel rather sure  my
>> specific situation will not apply to anyone else here most likely.
>> I use ssh2d386 to  access at least one commercial shell, but those shell
>> services are maintained by others.  I am not for example accessing my own
>> server.
>> If the servers you desire reaching are run by other people,  give me an
>> example and I will try.
>> If my many years of computing has taught me anything is that the word
>> Personal  is important for a reason.
>> Kare
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, William Dudley wrote:
>>
>> Karen,
>>>
>>> If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
>>> Ubuntu 16.04,
>>> please share the recipe with us!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill Dudley
>>>
>>>
>>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen <
>>> klewel...@shellworld.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
>>>> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my
>>>> office,
>>>> and here at shellworld.
>>>> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options, the
>>>> -g
>>>> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
>>>> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
>>>> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
>>>> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
>>>> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
>>>> Kare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
>>>>> >:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
>>>>>> package ssh2021b,  perhaps I can help you troubleshoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Karen!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using the exact same program and version.
>>>>>
>>>>> for the record, I am not using freedos, but  the ms dos 7.10 package
>>>>>
>>>>>> mentioned on this list.
>>>>>> Still every day several times a day I connect  to two different
>>>>>> servers
>>>>>> using  this package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I guess your servers still run OpenSSH in versions earlier than 6.9.
>>>>>
>>>>> may I ask again what your issue is presently?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I have given up on it. I spent another day trying to get it to
>>>>> work, but without success.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that I can’t connect to an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with
>>>>> OpenSSH 7.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> SSH2D386 gives the message:
>

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

I am unsure what it is that makes ssh2dos so unstable for me - nobody else
has this issue?

I would like to answer Ulrich on how he can modify his Ubuntu server, but
first, a warning: These algorithms were disabled because they are obsolete
and insecure.  Using a token based login, such as google-authenticator, may
be advisable if your server is public facing.

Firstly, add this to your server's /etc/ssh/sshd_config:

KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group1-sha1,curve25519-sha...@libssh.org
,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
Ciphers 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,aes128-ctr,aes256-ctr
HostKeyAlgorithms +ssh-dss

Then, make use of the -g option - it goes BEFORE your username in ssh2dos.
You should now be able to connect.

I do not know why simply adding +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 doesn't work,
it seems it should.  Also, I was in a rush - I may be excluding some newer
options - report back if you find/add them with success.

-Dan

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> While I appreciate your desire for wisdom, I feel rather sure  my specific
> situation will not apply to anyone else here most likely.
> I use ssh2d386 to  access at least one commercial shell, but those shell
> services are maintained by others.  I am not for example accessing my own
> server.
> If the servers you desire reaching are run by other people,  give me an
> example and I will try.
> If my many years of computing has taught me anything is that the word
> Personal  is important for a reason.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2017, William Dudley wrote:
>
> Karen,
>>
>> If you know how to get ssh2d386 to connect to a modern openssh, as on
>> Ubuntu 16.04,
>> please share the recipe with us!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Dudley
>>
>>
>> This email is free of malware because I run Linux.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Karen Lewellen > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, if you have given up no point in my sharing.
>>> We use the same edition of Ubuntu, both with dreamhost who has my office,
>>> and here at shellworld.
>>> While the latter requires me to make use of a few ssh2021b options, the
>>> -g
>>> option  for example, I encounter no issues.
>>> I am going to guess that  things like machine speed, mine is a p3 with
>>> allot of memory, impacts your situation.
>>> nor, I would hope, your  location in the world.
>>> Sorry I did not notice your post before you abandoned  the effort.
>>> Kare
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2017, Ulrich Hansen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2017 um 18:19 schrieb Karen Lewellen :

>
> As I am presently writing this e-mail using ssh2d386 from the ssh2dos
> package ssh2021b,  perhaps I can help you troubleshoot.
>
>
 Hi Karen!

 I am using the exact same program and version.

 for the record, I am not using freedos, but  the ms dos 7.10 package

> mentioned on this list.
> Still every day several times a day I connect  to two different servers
> using  this package.
>
>
 I guess your servers still run OpenSSH in versions earlier than 6.9.

 may I ask again what your issue is presently?

>
>
 Actually I have given up on it. I spent another day trying to get it to
 work, but without success.

 The problem is that I can’t connect to an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server with
 OpenSSH 7.2.

 SSH2D386 gives the message:

 Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
 DH key exchange failed

 The server logs:
 Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: kex protocol
 error: type 30 seq 1 [preauth]
 Jan 27 00:02:22 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[2651]: error: Received
 disconnect from 192.168.1.110 port 645:3: Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GRO

 As I wrote I already had problems connecting to a Debian 8 server with
 OpenSSH 6.7.
 But there I could fix it with these lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the
 server.

 Ciphers aes128-cbc
 KexAlgorithms diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1
 MACs hmac-sha1
 HostKeyAlgorithms ssh-css

 But in OpenSSH 7.2 this didn’t work.

 What else did I try?

 I tried to set MTU=576 in C:\FDOS\WATTCP.CFG.

 I tried to recompile OpenSSH.
 The first time with adding this line in in compat.c:
 { "SSHDOS*",SSH_OLD_DHGEX },
 The second time with this one:
 { "SSHDOS*",SSH_BUG_NOREKEY|SSH_BUG_FIRSTKEX },

 Both were not able to let SSH2D386 connect. It worked great with other
 SSH clients.

 The idea was that SSH2DOS uses code from PuTTY and there were already
 several exceptions in combat.c for old PuTTY versions. The reason seems
 to
 be that OpenSSH implemented RFC4419 and old PuTTY versions and SSH2DOS

Re: [Freedos-user] SSH2DOS - no connection with recent servers

[Dan Schmidt]

They deprecated that cipher - you can make it work, but it is vulnerable.
Also, ssh2dos is very unstable in my experience.  I wish somebody would
write a decent ssh for dos.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Ulrich Hansen  wrote:

> Update:
>
> The solution I found last night seems to work only for older OpenSSH
> servers.
>
> For Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with OpenSSH 7.2.) I also had to add:
>
> HostKeyAlgorithms ssh-dss
>
> to /etc/ssh/sshd_config because ssh-dss seems to have been deactivated by
> default since OpenSSH 6.9.
>
> But in the end SSH2DOS was still not able to connect to OpenSSH 7.2.
>
> Perhaps someone has an idea?
>
> At the moment SSH2DOS can only be used to connect to older servers,
> running f.i. Debian Wheezy (OpenSSH 6.0) or Jessie (OpenSSH 6.7).
>
> So soon there will be no functioning SSH client anymore for FreeDOS. :-(
>
> Here are the messages:
>
> SSH2DOS error message is:
>
> C:\> ssh2d386 username 192.168.1.131
> SSH2DOS v0.2.1. 386+ version
> Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
> DH key exchange failed
> Remote host closed connection
> Socket write error. File: transprt.c, line:698
> Connection closed by peer
>
> On the server, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with OpenSSH 7.2.), /var/log/auth.log
> says:
>
> Jan 23 09:55:09 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[4661]: error: kex protocol error:
> type 30 seq 1 [preauth]
> Jan 23 09:55:09 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[4661]: error: Received disconnect
> from 192.168.1.110 port 564:3: Expected KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP [preauth]
> Jan 23 09:55:09 ubuntu-VirtualBox sshd[4661]: Disconnected from
> 192.168.1.110 port 564 [preauth]
>
>
> C:\> ssh2d386 -d username 192.168.1.131
>
> wrote the following output in C:\SSH2DOS\DEBUG.PKT:
>
> ---
>
> RECEIVED packet:
> 14 BE 6D 01 48 D3 E5 EB 2A C1 81 DE E7 31 AB DB
> B2 00 00 00 22 64 69 66 66 69 65 2D 68 65 6C 6C
> 6D 61 6E 2D 67 72 6F 75 70 2D 65 78 63 68 61 6E
> 67 65 2D 73 68 61 31 00 00 00 07 73 73 68 2D 64
> 73 73 00 00 00 0A 61 65 73 31 32 38 2D 63 62 63
> 00 00 00 0A 61 65 73 31 32 38 2D 63 62 63 00 00
> 00 D5 75 6D 61 63 2D 36 34 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70
> 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 75 6D 61 63 2D 31
> 32 38 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63
> 6F 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 32 2D 32 35 36
> 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D
> 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 32 2D 35 31 32 2D 65
> 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 68
> 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 31 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65
> 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 75 6D 61 63 2D 36 34
> 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 75 6D 61
> 63 2D 31 32 38 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F
> 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 32 2D 32 35 36 2C
> 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 32 2D 35 31 32 2C 68 6D
> 61 63 2D 73 68 61 31 00 00 00 D5 75 6D 61 63 2D
> 36 34 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63
> 6F 6D 2C 75 6D 61 63 2D 31 32 38 2D 65 74 6D 40
> 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63
> 2D 73 68 61 32 2D 32 35 36 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70
> 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73
> 68 61 32 2D 35 31 32 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E
> 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61
> 31 2D 65 74 6D 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F
> 6D 2C 75 6D 61 63 2D 36 34 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73
> 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 75 6D 61 63 2D 31 32 38 40 6F
> 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D
> 73 68 61 32 2D 32 35 36 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68
> 61 32 2D 35 31 32 2C 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 31
> 00 00 00 15 6E 6F 6E 65 2C 7A 6C 69 62 40 6F 70
> 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63 6F 6D 00 00 00 15 6E 6F 6E
> 65 2C 7A 6C 69 62 40 6F 70 65 6E 73 73 68 2E 63
> 6F 6D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> ..m.H...*1..
> "diffie-hell
> man-group-exchan
> ge-sha1ssh-d
> ssaes128-cbc
> aes128-cbc..
> ..umac-64-etm@op
> enssh.com,umac-1
> 28-etm@openssh.c
> om,hmac-sha2-256
> -e...@openssh.com
> ,hmac-sha2-512-e
> t...@openssh.com,h
> mac-sha1-etm@ope
> nssh.com,umac-64
> @openssh.com,uma
> c-...@openssh.co
> m,hmac-sha2-256,
> hmac-sha2-512,hm
> ac-sha1umac-
> 64-etm@openssh.c
> om,umac-128-etm@
> openssh.com,hmac
> -sha2-256-etm@op
> enssh.com,hmac-s
> ha2-512-etm@open
> ssh.com,hmac-sha
> 1-...@openssh.co
> m,umac-64@openss
> h.com,umac-128@o
> penssh.com,hmac-
> sha2-256,hmac-sh
> a2-512,hmac-sha1
> none,zlib@op
> enssh.comnon
> e,zlib@openssh.c
> om.
>
> SENT packet:
> 14 25 81 88 A7 CD 90 15 0E 5E 3B 7C B4 0B 1E 9D
> CA 00 00 00 22 64 69 66 66 69 65 2D 68 65 6C 6C
> 6D 61 6E 2D 67 72 6F 75 70 2D 65 78 63 68 61 6E
> 67 65 2D 73 68 61 31 00 00 00 07 73 73 68 2D 64
> 73 73 00 00 00 0A 61 65 73 31 32 38 2D 63 62 63
> 00 00 00 0A 61 65 73 31 32 38 2D 63 62 63 00 00
> 00 09 68 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 31 00 00 00 09 68
> 6D 61 63 2D 73 68 61 31 00 00 00 09 6E 6F 6E 65
> 2C 7A 6C 69 62 00 00 00 09 6E 6F 6E 65 2C 7A 6C
> 69 62 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> .%...^;|
> "diffie-hell
> man-group-exchan
> ge-sha1ssh-d
> ssaes128-cbc
> aes128-cbc..
> ..hmac-sha1h
> mac-sha1none
> ,zlibnone,zl
> ib.
>
> 

[Freedos-user] Lynx DOS

[Dan Schmidt]

FYI - I have found this new compile of Lynx to be very stable/compatible.
If you have an old computer and want to put it to good use, FreeDOS with
lynx is an excellent option.  It's a very fast way to read weather/news
without ads.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/JJ43_KFuYbA
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Re: [Freedos-user] HTTPS and DOS browsers

[Dan Schmidt]

> Under plain DOS ? On what kind of machine ?

Sry, didn't see your response.  FreeDos, Pentium, but I'm guessing it may
run on less.  Get a nic card, an Ethernet to Wireless bridge, and you are
good to go.  And a lot of time, especially for Lynx.  Links is slightly
unstable, but easy to setup and better web page compatibility.  Lynx is
notably faster, has better shorcuts (numbered links) and runs rock solid.
 (Plus, access to the Gophernet) A great solution for reading news.  Can
provide hints on setup if needed.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Jose Antonio Senna <
jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br> wrote:

>  On 26 july, Thomas Mueller said:
>
> > ...(I) also have run Links with graphics
> > in DOS, but that was years back.
>
>   Do you remember on what machine you did this ?
>
> > I used Doug Kaufman's DOS port of Lynx for
> > online commerce but not banking, and not recently.
>
>I, too, used this port of Lynx as my main browser,
>   inclusive for e-commerce, until 2014.  During past
>   year access problems did increase a lot.
>
>  Dan Schmidt said:
>
> >  I use two that do SSL/TLS quite adequately:
> >  Links2
> >  http://links.twibright.com/download.php
> >  lynx also does ssl, but this version takes some work to get going:
> >  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/flY264GkHV8
>
>  Under plain DOS ? On what kind of machine ?
>
> Thank you for your attention
>   JAS
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] HTTPS and DOS browsers

[Dan Schmidt]

>You talk as if you know for sure there is one.
>Is this the case ?

I use two that do SSL/TLS quite adequately:

Links2
http://links.twibright.com/download.php

lynx also does ssl, but this version takes some work to get going:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.msdos.djgpp/flY264GkHV8

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:33 PM, dmccunney 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Thomas Mueller 
> wrote:
>
> > I use mostly Mozilla Firefox or Seamonkey.  There are other graphical
> browsers, such as Qupzilla, Midori and Netsurf, but I am not aware of any
> attempt to port any of these browsers to DOS.
>
> I use Firefox as my production browser, and have SeaMonkey about as
> well.  I also have current Qupzilla and Midori, and looked at Netsurf.
>
> I don't believe it's *possible* to port any of them to DOS.  They are
> too big, require too much RAM, and require underlying OS features DOS
> simply doesn't have and will never get.
>
> Want to browse the web with support for current standards?  Use a
> browser under Windows or a flavor of *nix.  (I'm in Firefox under
> Ubuntu Linux at the moment, using the same profile I use under
> Windows, and behaviour and performance are almost identical.)
>
> > Tom
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