Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
Quoting Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net: On 2014-07-12 12:03 (GMT-0700) Dave Stevens composed: I need to make a bootable DOS disk and don't see how. I have a computer that needs a BIOS update. Instructions are to make a bootable DOZ diskette, boot from that, run the manufactorer's update program and the BIOS update will be copied into the ROM. But! the smallest boot diskette I can make doesn't have enough room for the update program and the BIOS image. You don't need everything on one floppy. Put the BIOS image on a separate floppy. After booting, switch floppies, then flash. You don't have to use a floppy. All you really need is any boot disk that doesn't load drivers or other fluff into RAM during boot. If you have an extra HD, create a small DOS partition on it, do format C: /S, put the flash program and bios image on it, boot from it without any AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS, then flash. I don't have a spare hard drive to use. I tried rufus and it ALMOST does what I want but seems to be set up to install freedos on a drive. I don't want that. I'd like to make a bootable USB flash drive that boots to an A: prompt with lots of space. Changing diskettes to the one with the flash program and bios image fails for some reason when changing diskettes. Ideas? Dave -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to office -- Aesop -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 19:37:28 +0200, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I don't have a spare hard drive to use. I tried rufus and it ALMOST does what I want but seems to be set up to install freedos on a drive. No, it's not. Did you give it an ISO image? You can just choose Create a bootable disk using FreeDOS and it will only copy the kernel, COMMAND.COM, and KEYB (I think). -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
On 2014-07-16 10:37 (GMT-0700) Dave Stevens composed: Changing diskettes to the one with the flash program and bios image fails for some reason when changing diskettes. Ideas? 1-configure a boot floppy with USB support 2-put the flash program and new BIOS file on a USB stick 3-try flashing immediately after boot by prepending drive letter to flash program That may not work if the flash program isn't smart enough to find the BIOS binary on the non-current drive, in which case: 4-add command.com to the USB stick 5-boot the floppy 6-change to the drive letter allocated to the USB stick 7-flash Another alternative: old floppy drives and dual drive cables are in virtually every small shop that fixes puters. Put a second one on the cable to put the #2 floppy in. That's how PCs were used before HDs for PCs existed. Also, old shops tend to have old small HDs nobody wants they will sell dirt cheap or give away. With a PATA to SATA converter one of those with a small FAT primary partition containing only boot and flash files could be used even for a brand new puter. Similar goes for ZIP drives, where you could put the flash files instead of on a second floppy. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
Hi, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: Quoting Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net: On 2014-07-12 12:03 (GMT-0700) Dave Stevens composed: I need to make a bootable DOS disk and don't see how. I have a computer that needs a BIOS update. But! the smallest boot diskette I can make doesn't have enough room for the update program and the BIOS image. How big exactly is the update program + BIOS image? You said it doesn't fit. Is it some kind of .EXE sfx, already compressed, or what? Naively, I wonder if you tried 7-Zip to compress it. Then, as long as you have about 60 kb free, you can add 7zdecode.exe (or use UHarc or even paq8o8z or such). You don't need everything on one floppy. Put the BIOS image on a separate floppy. After booting, switch floppies, then flash. I don't have a spare hard drive to use. I tried rufus and it ALMOST does what I want but seems to be set up to install freedos on a drive. RUFUS is not very big nor complete, by default, unless you use the full 1.1 .iso. How big is your USB jump drive? I don't want that. I'd like to make a bootable USB flash drive that boots to an A: prompt with lots of space. Probably boots as C:, is that not what you want?? Why? Just adjust your .BATs. Or use SUBST. I'm not understanding the problem here. Changing diskettes to the one with the flash program and bios image fails for some reason when changing diskettes. You probably need to copy /b the shell to a RAM disk, then set COMSPEC=R:\COMMAND.COM or such. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
You can get a 16GB flash drive at MaoMart, I mean Walmart, of course for US$12.97 (at least in Cleveland, OH). -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
USB drive, of course. On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:41 PM, Bill Haught wlhaughtpr...@att.net wrote: You can get a 16GB flash drive at MaoMart, I mean Walmart, of course for US$12.97 (at least in Cleveland, OH). -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Bill Haught wlhaughtpr...@att.net wrote: You can get a 16GB flash drive at MaoMart, I mean Walmart, of course for US$12.97 (at least in Cleveland, OH). I got a 32GB Micro Center branded USB drive at their location in NYC for $15, and a 32GB Micro Center microSD card with full size SD adapter for $13. Brand name stuff, like Samsung and Toshiba, were almost as cheap. I believe Micro Center began and is HQed in Cleveland, so local to you. I'm delighted one opened where I am, as it provides a source for all the fiddly bits I tend to need. Staples, Best Buy, etc. may carry what I want, but it won't be in stock in the stores and must be ordered online. I generally tend to need stuff on short notice, and want to go to a store that day and come home with it. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] newbie help?
Hi, I need to make a bootable DOS disk and don't see how. I have a computer that needs a BIOS update. Instructions are to make a bootable DOZ diskette, boot from that, run the manufactorer's update program and the BIOS update will be copied into the ROM. But! the smallest boot diskette I can make doesn't have enough room for the update program and the BIOS image. I think it might be possible to make a bootable Freedos CDROM but haven't seen instructions on how to do that. Can anyone refer me to a description of how todo that? Or a bootable USB disk would have lots of room too, I'm happy to have advice. Dave -- We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to office -- Aesop -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
On 2014-07-12 12:03 (GMT-0700) Dave Stevens composed: I need to make a bootable DOS disk and don't see how. I have a computer that needs a BIOS update. Instructions are to make a bootable DOZ diskette, boot from that, run the manufactorer's update program and the BIOS update will be copied into the ROM. But! the smallest boot diskette I can make doesn't have enough room for the update program and the BIOS image. You don't need everything on one floppy. Put the BIOS image on a separate floppy. After booting, switch floppies, then flash. You don't have to use a floppy. All you really need is any boot disk that doesn't load drivers or other fluff into RAM during boot. If you have an extra HD, create a small DOS partition on it, do format C: /S, put the flash program and bios image on it, boot from it without any AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS, then flash. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I need to make a bootable DOS disk and don't see how. I have a computer that needs a BIOS update. Instructions are to make a bootable DOZ diskette, boot from that, run the manufactorer's update program and the BIOS update will be copied into the ROM. But! the smallest boot diskette I can make doesn't have enough room for the update program and the BIOS image. Will your computer boot from USB? (This is normally a BIOS option, where you would select the USB device as the first thing to try to boot from.) If so, you might be able to create a bootable USB with DOS and your BIOS image, then boot from it. __ Dennis -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
Quoting dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: I need to make a bootable DOS disk and don't see how. I have a computer that needs a BIOS update. Instructions are to make a bootable DOZ diskette, boot from that, run the manufactorer's update program and the BIOS update will be copied into the ROM. But! the smallest boot diskette I can make doesn't have enough room for the update program and the BIOS image. Will your computer boot from USB? (This is normally a BIOS option, where you would select the USB device as the first thing to try to boot from.) If so, you might be able to create a bootable USB with DOS and your BIOS image, then boot from it. yes it will and that would be my preferred option but I don't know how to make a bootable DOS usb drive. Dave __ Dennis -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to office -- Aesop -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:26:52 +0200, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: Quoting dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com: Will your computer boot from USB? (This is normally a BIOS option, where you would select the USB device as the first thing to try to boot from.) If so, you might be able to create a bootable USB with DOS and your BIOS image, then boot from it. yes it will and that would be my preferred option but I don't know how to make a bootable DOS usb drive. If you are on Windows, the easiest way is to use Rufus: http://rufus.akeo.ie/ -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help?
Quoting Matej Horvat matej.hor...@guest.arnes.si: On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:26:52 +0200, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote: Quoting dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com: Will your computer boot from USB? (This is normally a BIOS option, where you would select the USB device as the first thing to try to boot from.) If so, you might be able to create a bootable USB with DOS and your BIOS image, then boot from it. yes it will and that would be my preferred option but I don't know how to make a bootable DOS usb drive. If you are on Windows, the easiest way is to use Rufus: http://rufus.akeo.ie/ Thanks! Looks like exactly what I need. I'll let you know how it works out. Dave -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- We hang petty thieves and appoint great ones to office -- Aesop -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help: your time please :(
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 11:19 +0200, Andre Tertling wrote: Gildor Inglorion wrote: i am using linux and i downloaded the .img bootdisk image from the download page. I don't know what to do with such file. I mounted it on a dir, then i mcpied its contents to a disk, but the disk couldn't boot The .img file represents a 1:1 image of the boot disk. You will have to write it directly to a floppy, I am no linux guru, but I guess dd is a decent tool to achieve this. You will want to read the man pages for dd before trying anything :) There is also a dd varient for use in a dos box in Win32 I recently tested it in XP home edition. Its command line is significantly different so do the homework. CWSIV --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help: your time please :(
In Linux, you can insert a blank floppy in the first drive and issue the command: dd if=???.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=2880 from the comman line, where ???.img is replaced by the name of the img file you are using. Ken Martwick On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 09:59:26AM +0100, Gildor Inglorion wrote: i know that you talk mostly on hihg-level themes concerning freedos programming and such, and i think that newbie questions can easily be overlooked, but please, offer me some time because i need your help i am using linux and i downloaded the .img bootdisk image from the download page. I don't know what to do with such file. I mounted it on a dir, then i mcpied its contents to a disk, but the disk couldn't boot i guess mounting and copying is not the proper way... what is it then? thanks for your time __ ?? Yahoo!; ?? ?? ?? (spam); ?? Yahoo! Mail ??? ?? ? ??? ??? ? http://mail.yahoo.gr --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Θέμα: Re: [Freedos-user] newbie help: yo ur time please :(
Very kind of you, and Eric :) In Linux, you can insert a blank floppy in the first drive and issue the command: dd if=???.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=2880 from the comman line, where ???.img is replaced by the name of the img file you are using. Ken Martwick On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 09:59:26AM +0100, Gildor Inglorion wrote: i know that you talk mostly on hihg-level themes concerning freedos programming and such, and i think that newbie questions can easily be overlooked, but please, offer me some time because i need your help i am using linux and i downloaded the .img bootdisk image from the download page. I don't know what to do with such file. I mounted it on a dir, then i mcpied its contents to a disk, but the disk couldn't boot i guess mounting and copying is not the proper way... what is it then? thanks for your time __ ?? Yahoo!; ?? ?? ?? (spam); ?? Yahoo! Mail ??? ?? ? ??? ??? ? http://mail.yahoo.gr --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Χρησιμοποιείτε Yahoo!; Βαρεθήκατε τα ενοχλητικά μηνύματα (spam); Το Yahoo! Mail διαθέτει την καλύτερη δυνατή προστασία κατά των ενοχλητικών μηνυμάτων http://login.yahoo.com/config/mail?.intl=gr --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42 plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
