Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2013-01-02 Thread Aitor Santamaría
The problem is that there's a limit to what one can ask to a FreeDOS tool: if it breaks MS-DOS compatibility. If DATE/T is taken as an option by MS-DOS COMMAND.COM, so should FreeCOM. You don't know how many batch programs could stop working with that change. Aitor 2012/4/11 Zbigniew > 2012/4/

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:51 PM, BretJ wrote: > >> Some DOS *apps* cared and choked on it, so I wrote Korn shell alias >> wrappers to reset the option delimiter char to / before running them, and >> set it back to - when they exited. > > Like I said, this is why it won't work in the _general_ case

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread BretJ
> Some DOS *apps* cared and choked on it, so I wrote Korn shell alias wrappers to reset the option > delimiter char to / before running them, and set it back to - when they > exited. Like I said, this is why it won't work in the _general_ case. There are situations and programs where it can work

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: >> But no, it would almost never use '/' because that is the Directory >> Separator (or whatever you want to call it). Also, '\' is the quote >> character for the shell, hence "My\ File\ Name.txt". Also, I think >> *nix (or at least Linux) can u

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/11, Bret Johnson : > That was basically my point. *nix has conventions/standards that it uses, > and so does DOS, and they are not the same. Trying to make one "look like" > the other, especially with so much history and "freedom" allowed by DOS, > just won't work. I would to remind here

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Bret Johnson
> But no, it would almost never use '/' because that is the Directory > Separator (or whatever you want to call it). Also, '\' is the quote > character for the shell, hence "My\ File\ Name.txt". Also, I think > *nix (or at least Linux) can use any character for filenames except > NUL, i.e. "..." is

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/11, Bret Johnson : >> My personal vote would be for bringing a little more order, I mean: >> to suppress recognizing such input as option, if slash is directly >> after some string of characters - in such case path recognition >> should be assumed. > > Problem with that is that I've seen pr

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Bret Johnson wrote: >> My personal vote would be for bringing a little more order, I mean: >> to suppress recognizing such input as option, if slash is directly >> after some string of characters - in such case path recognition >> should be assumed. > > Proble

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Bret Johnson
> My personal vote would be for bringing a little more order, I mean: > to suppress recognizing such input as option, if slash is directly > after some string of characters - in such case path recognition > should be assumed. Problem with that is that I've seen programs that _require_ the options

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Mark Brown
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Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/11, Rugxulo : > Good to know, thanks for the feedback, but ... > > a). there is no maintainer for 4DOS It seems, there's no hope for handling that timer-related issues too soon. > b). it doesn't compile (easily), and OpenWatcom isn't supported ...it's even worse. O_O >> 2. Could it be m

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Zbigniew
2012/4/11, Tom Ehlert : >> 2. Could it be made to use slash as separator in pathnames, just like >> 4DOS allows both slash and backslash? Every Linux/BSD user will >> appreciate that. > whats supposed to happen on > >C:>DATE/T > /T is probably an option > >DATE\T > probably some program in

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Zbigniew wrote: > > 1. Its "history" records "empty" lines (e.g. when one hits "Enter") - > I think, there's no need for that. It should record a line only in > case, when after eliminating blank characters (CR, LF, space...) from > both ends, its length stil

Re: [Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Tom Ehlert
Hallo Herr Zbigniew, am 11. April 2012 um 19:19 schrieben Sie: > 1. Its "history" records "empty" lines (e.g. when one hits "Enter") - > I think, there's no need for that. It should record a line only in > case, when after eliminating blank characters (CR, LF, space...) from > both ends, its leng

[Freedos-user] ...and about FreeCon this time

2012-04-11 Thread Zbigniew
1. Its "history" records "empty" lines (e.g. when one hits "Enter") - I think, there's no need for that. It should record a line only in case, when after eliminating blank characters (CR, LF, space...) from both ends, its length still remains > 0. 2. Could it be made to use slash as separator in p