Re: [Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing

2009-04-26 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Blair Campbell schreef:
 the data from XMS... There might be some code which decides about
 whether restore-from-XMS is needed and which is too optimistic. But
 maybe I am totally wrong about that whole swap/overwrite topic...
 

 From what I can tell it always swaps back from XMS and there is no
 other memory block that I am aware of.
   
Would your changes to FreeCOM be worthwile to be published at the same 
time as 2038 (in other words to be included as a new FreeCOM version, 
included with 2038 release) ?.

Bernd

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Re: [Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing

2009-04-25 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Alex,

 On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:20:40 +0100, I waved a wand and this message
 magically appears in front of Eric Auer:
 
 Indeed a very annoying bug in FreeCOM 0.84 but nobody has yet found
 a way to predict WHEN it happens. If you can find a way to make it
 happen at a more specific time than after a while, we could use a
 debugger to find out what exactly happens when things break. Note
 that only running com/exe/... (external commands) breaks, you can
 typically still run internal commands like DIR. Is this the same bug
 that you are experiencing?
 
 Smells like a stack overflow somewhere, methinks, 

Another option might be overwriteable part of FreeCOM overwritten
but FreeCOM failed to notice...? Background: It moves some data to
the end of some memory block and when you run a DOS app which does
not overwrite that block then FreeCOM can avoid having to restore
the data from XMS... There might be some code which decides about
whether restore-from-XMS is needed and which is too optimistic. But
maybe I am totally wrong about that whole swap/overwrite topic...

If the problem can be avoided by not loading EMM386, the cause might
be that EMM386 allows some area to be used by DOS (and freecom) as
UMB while that area has contents changed by BIOS or because of some
hardware activity (sound, network, usb, disk access etc etc)...?

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing

2009-04-25 Thread Blair Campbell
 the data from XMS... There might be some code which decides about
 whether restore-from-XMS is needed and which is too optimistic. But
 maybe I am totally wrong about that whole swap/overwrite topic...

From what I can tell it always swaps back from XMS and there is no
other memory block that I am aware of.


 If the problem can be avoided by not loading EMM386, the cause might
 be that EMM386 allows some area to be used by DOS (and freecom) as
 UMB while that area has contents changed by BIOS or because of some
 hardware activity (sound, network, usb, disk access etc etc)...?

 Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing

2009-04-03 Thread Alex Buell
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:20:40 +0100, I waved a wand and this message
magically appears in front of Eric Auer:

 Indeed a very annoying bug in FreeCOM 0.84 but nobody has yet found
 a way to predict WHEN it happens. If you can find a way to make it
 happen at a more specific time than after a while, we could use a
 debugger to find out what exactly happens when things break. Note
 that only running com/exe/... (external commands) breaks, you can
 typically still run internal commands like DIR. Is this the same bug
 that you are experiencing?

Smells like a stack overflow somewhere, methinks, 
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[Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing

2009-03-08 Thread Shane Baggs

I'm a computer technician, and am interested in FreeDOS because I often perform 
low-level operations on large disks (copying data, fixing file structures.)  So 
far I'm impressed with FreeDOS -- it seems to have all the important features 
of the commercial DOSses, and the fact that it's currently being developed is a 
plus.

Unfortunately, I've got the same problem on two completely different machines, 
and I can't find any reference to it except for a post on alt.os.free-dos last 
year that was never answered.

I'm using the FreeDOS 1.0 distribution CD for developers.

When I push F3 immediately after booting, garbage characters display.

When FreeDOS has been running for a while, the command prompt will return 
without the command executing.  Rebooting will fix this for a while.

I tried eliminating all use of high memory and UMB.  The problem persists.
Not loading a memory manager can make the problem take longer to occur.
I can't isolate the problem to a particular line in FDCONFIG.SYS or FDAUTO.BAT.

I tried using Rugxulo's floppy distribution (disk 1) which is based on a later 
kernel -- no difference.

The first computer is a tower with an Intel SE440BX2 mainboard, P3/550, 256 MB 
RAM, and an 80GB drive with a 40GB FAT32 partition.

The second computer is a Compaq Armada 3500 notebook, P2/366, 128 MB RAM, 6GB 
HDD with FAT32.

Both computers run Windows 98SE just fine.  The disks were originally formatted 
with Windows 98 SE.  They now boot to MetaKern.  The tower passes MEMTEST86.

There's not a lot on the internet about this, but I can't be the only one this 
has happened to!

Any help would be appreciated.

 - - Shane





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Re: [Freedos-user] Command prompt returns without commands executing

2009-03-08 Thread Mateusz Viste
On Sunday 08 March 2009 14:40, Shane Baggs wrote:
 When I push F3 immediately after booting, garbage characters display.
 
 When FreeDOS has been running for a while, the command prompt will return 
 without the command executing.  Rebooting will fix this for a while.

Hi,

I experienced similar troubles in the past. It appeared finally that the EMM 
manager I was using was not-so-compatible with my chipset hardware. Upgrading 
to the latest JEMM386 fixed all my problems. :-)

To upgrade your FreeDOS system easily, you can use FDUPDATE. This program will 
check in what versions your local packages are, and upgrade them using the 
repository at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/fdupdate/
Of course, it requires a network card with a working packet driver.

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