Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
Thanks for the hint. Storage is cheap these days, I am just expecting that some information will not expire. Aitor On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 22:09, Michael Brutman wrote: > This is an 8 year old email thread and you are expecting working links > from back then? > > Regardless, archive.org is your friend: > https://web.archive.org/web/20130430233113/https://geek.com/chips/nasa-needs-8086-chips-549867/ > > Consider donating to them. > > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 6:52 AM Aitor Santamaría > wrote: > >> The "geek.com" link mentioned looked interesting but is no longer online >> (404), anyone knows where it went? (google is not giving me obvious answers) >> >> Aitor >> >> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 at 10:38, ht-lab wrote: >> >>> On 25/11/2014 00:57, Ralf Quint wrote: >>> > On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: >>> >> Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until >>> >> the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV >>> > Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a >>> > radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google >>> > "APA-101S") >>> > And if you refer with "space telescope" to Hubble, that uses special >>> > radiation hardened version of the Intel 80486... >>> > >>> > Ralf >>> >>> They used a whole range of processors including the 8086, >>> >>> http://www.geek.com/chips/nasa-needs-8086-chips-549867/ >>> >>> Hans >>> www.ht-lab.com >>> >>> >>> > >>> > --- >>> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> > http://www.avast.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- >>> > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >>> > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and >>> Dashboards >>> > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & >>> more >>> > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, >>> FREE >>> > >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> > ___ >>> > Freedos-user mailing list >>> > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >>> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >>> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >>> >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
This is an 8 year old email thread and you are expecting working links from back then? Regardless, archive.org is your friend: https://web.archive.org/web/20130430233113/https://geek.com/chips/nasa-needs-8086-chips-549867/ Consider donating to them. On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 6:52 AM Aitor Santamaría wrote: > The "geek.com" link mentioned looked interesting but is no longer online > (404), anyone knows where it went? (google is not giving me obvious answers) > > Aitor > > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 at 10:38, ht-lab wrote: > >> On 25/11/2014 00:57, Ralf Quint wrote: >> > On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: >> >> Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until >> >> the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV >> > Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a >> > radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google >> > "APA-101S") >> > And if you refer with "space telescope" to Hubble, that uses special >> > radiation hardened version of the Intel 80486... >> > >> > Ralf >> >> They used a whole range of processors including the 8086, >> >> http://www.geek.com/chips/nasa-needs-8086-chips-549867/ >> >> Hans >> www.ht-lab.com >> >> >> > >> > --- >> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> > http://www.avast.com >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >> > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >> > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & >> more >> > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >> > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> > ___ >> > Freedos-user mailing list >> > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server >> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards >> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more >> Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
The "geek.com" link mentioned looked interesting but is no longer online (404), anyone knows where it went? (google is not giving me obvious answers) Aitor On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 at 10:38, ht-lab wrote: > On 25/11/2014 00:57, Ralf Quint wrote: > > On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: > >> Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until > >> the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV > > Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a > > radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google > > "APA-101S") > > And if you refer with "space telescope" to Hubble, that uses special > > radiation hardened version of the Intel 80486... > > > > Ralf > > They used a whole range of processors including the 8086, > > http://www.geek.com/chips/nasa-needs-8086-chips-549867/ > > Hans > www.ht-lab.com > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > > -- > > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > -- > Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server > from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards > with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more > Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751=/4140/ostg.clktrk > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 25/11/2014 00:57, Ralf Quint wrote: On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google APA-101S) And if you refer with space telescope to Hubble, that uses special radiation hardened version of the Intel 80486... Ralf They used a whole range of processors including the 8086, http://www.geek.com/chips/nasa-needs-8086-chips-549867/ Hans www.ht-lab.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 2014-11-23 20:57, Dennis Holierhoek wrote: Hello everybody, I was wondering about two things: For what architectures is FreeDOS designed? For what architectures must programs be designed to run on FreeDOS? Dennis As far as I can tell, QDOS i.e. Quick and Dirty Operating System was a 16-bit operating system from the start. Every MS-DOS compatible system is therefor 100% 16-bit when it comes to the kernel and system functions. DOS runs on architectures that support the real mode. Real mode is the 16-bit mode of Intel 8086 processors and compatibles. Even modern Core i3/i5/i7 CPUs support real mode and can therefor run DOS, if the computer has a BIOS. Modern systems switched from the BIOS to UEFI, which is not supported by DOS. There are certain 32-Bit Extenders for DOS, which allow a program to use protected mode, which is the 32-bit mode that was introduced with the Intel 80386. But the kernel in general doesn't require protected mode i.e. 32-bit at all. To answer your question in short: DOS is designed for 16-bit Intel 8086 compatible systems with a BIOS. It natively runs 16-bit programs. If you want a 8-bit system, you probably need CP/M-80 and a suitable processor, such as the Intel 8080 or the Z80. Cheers! -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
Em 24-11-2014 22:38, Ralf Quint escreveu: In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. But in neither case, you are going to be running FreeDOS (or any DOS) in those modes... I remeber that there is a very good CP/M simulator for DOS, I used it a lot when migranting from CP/M to PC-DOS... that would allow to run very old 8 bit programs... Alain -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
Em 24-11-2014 22:38, Ralf Quint escreveu: In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. But in neither case, you are going to be running FreeDOS (or any DOS) in those modes... I remeber that there is a very good CP/M simulator for DOS, I used it a lot when migranting from CP/M to PC-DOS... that would allow to run very old 8 bit programs... BTW, it did't use the V20 chip, I used it before the V20 existed and much later on a 386. So it would run really fas on a modern computer Alain -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 11/25/2014 4:20 AM, Alain Mouette wrote: Em 24-11-2014 22:38, Ralf Quint escreveu: In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. But in neither case, you are going to be running FreeDOS (or any DOS) in those modes... I remeber that there is a very good CP/M simulator for DOS, I used it a lot when migranting from CP/M to PC-DOS... that would allow to run very old 8 bit programs... And I am sure, that CP/M emulator (I guess you refer to either 22NICE or MYZ80) qualifies as a 16 bit program... ;-) Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
2 bit programs would have 4 instructions and 4 operands... the basic calculator? -- -Chris Evans Computer Consultant, Systems Administrator, Programmer, PC technician Digitalatoll Solutions Group (Tawhaki Software) - IT hosting, Data recovery, PC repair, Programming and Cloud Services http://www.tawhakisoft.com/ 916-382-9395 http://www.digitalatoll.com/ http://www.digitalatoll.com/ On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com wrote: And what does that binary do? Verzonden vanaf mijn Sony Xperia™-smartphone Zbigniew schreef 2014-11-23 21:16 GMT+01:00, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? Trust me: even 2-bit binaries like this: 00101010101011101010101011. -- Z. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:16:19 -0500, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com wrote: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On Mon, 2014-11-24 at 04:26 -0500, TJ Edmister wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:16:19 -0500, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com wrote: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 11/24/2014 1:26 AM, TJ Edmister wrote: On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:16:19 -0500, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com wrote: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. But in neither case, you are going to be running FreeDOS (or any DOS) in those modes... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google APA-101S) And if you refer with space telescope to Hubble, that uses special radiation hardened version of the Intel 80486... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 11/24/2014 7:57 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google APA-101S) I had thought the space shuttle ran on a hardened version of a 386? And if you refer with space telescope to Hubble, that uses special radiation hardened version of the Intel 80486... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On 11/24/2014 5:13 PM, David Kerber wrote: On 11/24/2014 7:57 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: On 11/24/2014 11:08 AM, Carl Spitzer wrote: Isn't the Z80 what the Space Shuttle and space Telescope used until the last decade. I seem to remember my old RS-4P was a Z80 chip. CWSIV Nope, the Space Shuttle's main computer was from IBM, based on a radiation-hardened version of a 32bit System/360 type CPU (just Google APA-101S) I had thought the space shuttle ran on a hardened version of a 386? The in later years used glass cockpit panels were 80386 based, but not the actual main computer(s) (there are 5 of them for redundancy). The original APA-101B even used wired core memory (a whole 1MB of it) while the later upgraded APA-101S used radiation hardened silicon based memory JFGI... Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
Hello everybody, I was wondering about two things:For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?For what architectures must programs be designed to run on FreeDOS? Dennis-- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
FreeDOS itself and all the programs for it is 16-bit. FreeDOS is designed to run on Intel 386-compatible CPUs and above, but I think it can run on 286 and some even below that. Sent using CloudMagic On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello everybody,I was wondering about two things:For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?For what architectures must programs be designed to run on FreeDOS?Dennis -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:06:27 -0500 From: davenportcor...@gmail.com To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net CC: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed? FreeDOS itself and all the programs for it is 16-bit. FreeDOS is designed to run on Intel 386-compatible CPUs and above, but I think it can run on 286 and some even below that. Sent using CloudMagic On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, I was wondering about two things:For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?For what architectures must programs be designed to run on FreeDOS? Dennis -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
2014-11-23 21:16 GMT+01:00, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? Trust me: even 2-bit binaries like this: 00101010101011101010101011. -- Z. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On 11/23/2014 12:16 PM, Dennis Holierhoek wrote: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? Seriously? :-\ Or are you just trolling? Ralf --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
And what does that binary do? Verzonden vanaf mijn Sony Xperia™-smartphone Zbigniew schreef 2014-11-23 21:16 GMT+01:00, Dennis Holierhoek dennis...@hotmail.com: But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? Trust me: even 2-bit binaries like this: 00101010101011101010101011. -- Z. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
I am not trolling, just wondering Verzonden vanaf mijn Sony Xperia™-smartphone Ralf Quint schreef -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
