Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDNPKG 16 bit port and other package system improvements

2013-12-06 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, sparky4 insano
 wrote:
>
> I really wish there was a 16 bit port of fdnpkg!
> but it is quite difficult to port it over

These are just .ZIPs with a special layout, so it's not like you can't
manually install them. Besides, most DOS programs don't have lots of
dependencies, so it's much less critical.

> I also wish the developers of Free Open Source Software for DOS would at
> least make a FreeDOS package of their stuff and put it in the repository!!

Such as what exactly? If you have a specific request or two, feel free
to ask (but don't get your hopes up, most people are too busy or
indifferent, sadly).

I'm the worst at focusing on a specific task, but admittedly, you
can't do everything at once, you have to narrow your view for a bit,
just to keep things simpler and manageable. So it's unlikely that
"everything" (BASE, NET, UTIL) will all be updated at once. But little
by little 

> Speaking of which i want to update a bunch of the packages in the
> repository!

Talk to Mateusz. Or tell me specifically which ones are outdated and
need replacing, and I'll update them on iBiblio for you / us. Anybody
else wanting to directly help should probably email Jim Hall
privately.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1/repos/

(Just for example, /devel/djgpp-obj.zip is ObjC, but it's GCC 4.7.1,
after their transition to using G++, and honestly I don't think it
works at all. But I chickened out and didn't email Mateusz recently.
Maybe now's a good time to mention it, but I don't really know ObjC,
and the examples I tested were minimal. Andris of DJGPP didn't seem to
know either.)

> also DOSFSCK for DOS port is quite outdated...
>
> Just to let you know...

Dunno, in the few times I used it, it worked okay. What specifically
does it not do? What is latest / better?

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDNPKG 16 bit port and other package system improvements

2013-12-06 Thread Matej Horvat
Hi,

> I really wish there was a 16 bit port of fdnpkg!
> but it is quite difficult to port it over

I have tried porting an older version of FDNPKG to Open Watcom in the  
past. My changes became obsolete once a newer one (0.95, I think) was  
released, so I deleted them. (Modifying the makefile was quite simple, by  
the way.)

The biggest problem, I think, was that FDNPKG assumes 32-bit ints and  
"#define int long" obviously wouldn't work because some #included headers  
(for example Open Watcom's stdio.h) declare variables as "long int", which  
would then become "long long" and mess everything up.

Mateusz also wasn't very enthusiastic about it - he told me that FDNPKG  
relies quite heavily on having a large non-segmented address space  
(probably for ZIP decompression) and that porting it to real mode would  
make the code a mess.

So, to update FreeDOS installations on your pre-80386 machines, you can  
use my own FreeDOS offline updater -  
http://matejhorvat.si/en/freedos/fdoffupd/ - it's a bit of a kludge, but  
it's better than having to download all the updates manually.

Matej Horvat
http://matejhorvat.si/

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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS FDNPKG 16 bit port and other package system improvements

2013-12-06 Thread sparky4 insano
I really wish there was a 16 bit port of fdnpkg!
but it is quite difficult to port it over

I also wish the developers of Free Open Source Software for DOS would at
least make a FreeDOS package of their stuff and put it in the repository!!

Speaking of which i want to update a bunch of the packages in the
repository!

also DOSFSCK for DOS port is quite outdated...

Just to let you know...

with love,
sparky4
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