Re: [Freedos-user] Intro

2007-12-17 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Chris,

 I've been following FreeDOS on and off for a while, thinking it would
 be fun to write a version of InterLNK in my non-existent free time.
 Alas, it will have to wait.

Good idea! Original interlnk did the following: A driver on the server
side kept more or less the whole server busy, and transferred raw disk
sectors to/from the client. The client driver behaves as any disk or
ramdisk driver, but communicates with the server instead of using ram
or a local disk for storage. There is also the filemaven freeware file
mgr which has file transfer functionality but which does not create a
DOS drive letter. Instead, you just use the file mgr to transfer the
files :-). Last but not least, a FTP style Samba command line client
exists for DOS. It is a DJGPP DOS port of the Linux smbclient tool.

 My current project is to use FreeDOS to get a minimal Ubuntu
 installation on my ancient ThinkPad 750P: 5GB disk, 36MB RAM

Pretty small RAM-wise :-). But you could run Linux 2.2 based
distros on 12 to 32 MB RAM more or less. Dunno if you have a
chance with a modern but light Xubuntu ;-).

 make a FreeDOS boot floppy with card and socket services and
 a driver for my PCCard SD card reader [and then loadlin/linld]

Sounds okay but you could also boot from a floppy Linux distro
or a DOS network floppy and then download the file via network...
I think SD readers are not really trivial to support, as they
are less standardized than PCMCIA/CF or USB storage...?

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Intro

2007-12-17 Thread Chris Schumann
On Dec 17, 2007 11:05 AM, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris wrote:
  I've been following FreeDOS on and off for a while, thinking it would
  be fun to write a version of InterLNK in my non-existent free time.
  Alas, it will have to wait.

 Good idea! Original interlnk did the following: A driver on the server
 side kept more or less the whole server busy, and transferred raw disk
 sectors to/from the client.

Right. The MS version worked with the hard and floppy drives, and
IBM's version even worked with the CD drive. I think a FreeDOS version
should work with any mounted drive.

  My current project is to use FreeDOS to get a minimal Ubuntu
  installation on my ancient ThinkPad 750P: 5GB disk, 36MB RAM

 Pretty small RAM-wise :-). But you could run Linux 2.2 based
 distros on 12 to 32 MB RAM more or less. Dunno if you have a
 chance with a modern but light Xubuntu ;-).

A minimal Ubuntu install has no GUI. That should be pretty
lightweight. I can add XFCE later, if I can get X to work at all.

  make a FreeDOS boot floppy with card and socket services and
  a driver for my PCCard SD card reader [and then loadlin/linld]

 Sounds okay but you could also boot from a floppy Linux distro
 or a DOS network floppy and then download the file via network...
 I think SD readers are not really trivial to support, as they
 are less standardized than PCMCIA/CF or USB storage...?

With the minimal work I did (basically loading DISKDRV.SYS and seeing
it didn't work automatically), I'm now trying to get a stack of
floppies to work with the 9MB Ubuntu mini ISO, and it crashes at
startup. Not a topic for this list, however.

Chris

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Re: [Freedos-user] Intro

2007-12-17 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Chris,

 Right. The MS version worked with the hard and floppy drives, and
 IBM's version even worked with the CD drive. I think a FreeDOS
 version should work with any mounted drive.

Actually it makes it easy and reasonably fast to transport
sectors via the link, but otoh it limits links to FAT style
drives and forces you to make the drive readonly for soft-
ware on the server while a client is linked... On the other
hand, real network drive interfaces or at least a remote
shsucdx / mscdex are complex, and you may want to implement
an already widespread protocol such as NFS or SMB if you go
the complex route anyway. With nice locking/sharing etc :-).

 A minimal Ubuntu install has no GUI.

Actually Linux 2.2 is very slow with any GUI below 32 MB ;-).
I used fvwm2 on the 12 to 32 MB systems but of course only
with lightweight apps. Today that means Dillo, not Mozilla.

Eric



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