Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-10-26 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 26-10-2010 17:30, Willi Wasser schreef:
> A new version of the network monitoring program LANSTAT (aka "little sister") 
> is available and can be downloaded from here: 
> http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/. It now also provides for 
> logging, offers a considerably greater flexibility in the display layout and 
> provides many minor improvements in various details.
>
> But not only the program was improved, the documentation file as well. It is 
> now actually larger then the program itself, offering to those, who are not 
> afraid of reading a more elaborate text, some (hopefully) useful ideas about 
> the program's flexibility, the many ways to configure it and the various 
> purposes it can be used for.
>
> In addition the DOSUTILS packages (available from the same site) got a new 
> member: PRINTF an improved echo utility.

Thanks for letting know there's an update. Those dos utils require a bit 
of studying to see how to apply them best if I ever get back to 
batchcode writing :)

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[Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-10-26 Thread Willi Wasser
A new version of the network monitoring program LANSTAT (aka "little sister") 
is available and can be downloaded from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/. It now also provides for 
logging, offers a considerably greater flexibility in the display layout and 
provides many minor improvements in various details.

But not only the program was improved, the documentation file as well. It is 
now actually larger then the program itself, offering to those, who are not 
afraid of reading a more elaborate text, some (hopefully) useful ideas about 
the program's flexibility, the many ways to configure it and the various 
purposes it can be used for.

In addition the DOSUTILS packages (available from the same site) got a new 
member: PRINTF an improved echo utility.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-10 Thread Willi Wasser
> You are getting closer, but you have still not really explained what it 
> actually does. 
> What does "monitor" mean? 
> What protocols does it support? 
> What network stacks? 
> What network services? 
> What kind of monitoring? 
> What kind of display? 
> What information is displayed? 
> Does it update continuously? 
> What statistics are gathered? 
> How are they output, to where?

Well, reading (e.g. the documentation) is often helpful :-)

Strictly spoken, LANSTAT doesn't touch the LAN at all. Rather it invokes other 
programs using them as "test agents", reads their output, classifies it as 
either "good" or "bad" and displays the collected results in a clearly arranged 
tabular manner on the screen. A typical example of such a "test agent" is the 
program "ping" and nearly any TCP/IP stack comes with such a utility. But any 
other program, which satifies certain requirements (which in-turn are further 
described in the documentation) can be used as well. The precize syntax for 
calling it and classifying its output is defined in a configuration file making 
LANSTAT very flexible. Therefore it is justified to say that the program can be 
used with virtually any network stack and any network protocol and many 
services.

And yes, the information is updated continuously, no statistics are gathered, 
though i am thinking about adding a logging feature and the information is 
primarily output to the local screen, but optionally a html file can be 
generated, which in-turn can be made (globally) available by some kind of 
(external) HTTP server or directly via the LAN itself.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-08 Thread japhethx gmail
> I don't really use DOS any more, so I'm afraid I am unlikely to use
> your tool; I am just trying to clarify what you are being asked for,
> as you seem not to be getting it.

He's getting it pretty good IMO.

Additionally, there is this info:

 > Reading the file LANSTAT.TXT, which is included in the archive, might 
answer > certain questions.

I did download the tool and it's not very difficult to understand what it 
does. There's absolutely no need to copy the tool's documentation to the 
FreeDOS mailing list.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-08 Thread Liam Proven
On 7 September 2010 21:23, Willi Wasser  wrote:
>> to me it's still unclear what it is supposed to do and whether it
>> works in (Free-)DOS at all, considering the shots you posted ;-(
>
> The program's purpose is to supervise a local area network (aka LAN). On a 
> single stand-alone computer without any network connection, it is indeed of 
> very little use. The program can constantly monitor the availability of 
> certain hosts (e.g. by pinging them) or certain services (by using other 
> "agents" like e.g. LPQ).

You are getting closer, but you have still not really explained what
it actually does. What does "monitor" mean? What protocols does it
support? What network stacks? What network services? What kind of
monitoring? What kind of display? What information is displayed? Does
it update continuously? What statistics are gathered? How are they
output, to where?

I don't really use DOS any more, so I'm afraid I am unlikely to use
your tool; I am just trying to clarify what you are being asked for,
as you seem not to be getting it.




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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-07 Thread Willi Wasser
> to me it's still unclear what it is supposed to do and whether it
> works in (Free-)DOS at all, considering the shots you posted ;-(

The program's purpose is to supervise a local area network (aka LAN). On a 
single stand-alone computer without any network connection, it is indeed of 
very little use. The program can constantly monitor the availability of certain 
hosts (e.g. by pinging them) or certain services (by using other "agents" like 
e.g. LPQ). For larger operating systems, like WINDOWS or UNIX, such programs 
exist (e.g. "big brother" or "big sister" and others) but for DOS there seem to 
be not so very many ones. 

This one i developed under MS-DOS 6.22 but there are no Microsoft specific 
items involved, therefore i would expect it to run under any kind of DOS system 
(MS-/DR-/Free- what-so-ever). Well, it requires at least version number 3.1. I 
personly tried it (besides under "true" MS-DOS 6.22) in the "DOS-window" of 
Windows3.11, Windows98 and WindowsME, as well as under the "Command" window of 
WindowsNT.

The first of the two screen-shots shows the program running in the "DOS-window" 
of Windows98, just because this was for me the easiest way to generate such a 
screen shot. Under "true" DOS it looks very much the same, just in full screen. 
The second screen-shot shows an example of the html file which the program can 
optionally create as well.

BTW: Reading the file LANSTAT.TXT, which is included in the archive, might 
answer certain questions. Another option would be to just try it. It comes with 
a dummy configuration file, invoking a "fake" ping program, so this demo is 
ready to run, even on a computer without network connection. Of course this is 
not really useful, but it gives a first impression of its operation.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-06 Thread Michael B. Brutman
dos386 wrote:
> to me it's still unclear what it is supposed to do and whether it
> works in (Free-)DOS at all, considering the shots you posted ;-

It is a LAN status monitor.  It monitors the status of your LAN. ;-0



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Re: [Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-06 Thread dos386
> Sorry folks, no exciting pictures of my little sister here ;-)

to me it's still unclear what it is supposed to do and whether it
works in (Free-)DOS at all, considering the shots you posted ;-(

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[Freedos-user] Little Sister

2010-09-06 Thread Willi Wasser
Sorry folks, no exciting pictures of my little sister here ;-), i just want to 
direct your attention to my latest project: LANSTAT a LAN STATus monitor. 
Though it cannot compete with projects like "Big Brother" or "Big Sister", my 
"Little Sister" has got some interesting features too. It runs under (MS-)DOS 
(but can be used under Windows as well), is rather compact in size, yet very 
flexibly configurable. Therefore it can be used with virtually any networking 
software available for DOS and can do even more that just ping a number of 
hosts.

Please feel free to download the package from here: 
http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ and try it yourself.
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