Re: [Freedos-user] x-comment to Michael Devore's message of 18 March

2005-03-19 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

19-Мар-2005 13:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Auer) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

EA> If not, you can at least replace the "mov al,[esi] / cmp al,0ffh /
EA> je va_next / ... / va_next: inc esi / loop back" part by something like:
EA> "mov al,0ffh / repz scasb [esi]

 Don't forget about `cld'.

EA> / jz fail / va_checksubs2: lodsb /

 Don't forget, that all string instructions change (increment) (e)si
after last accessed byte. (Ie., I suggest, here you forget "dec esi").

EA> PPS: Arkady wrote that QEMM has switchable VME support. So it would
EA> be a good idea if some QEMM user could check the performance impact
EA> of switching VME on/off :-)).

 If you specify how (better if there will just one executable/script,
which does all tests and measures without user intervention), I may try
this.

EA> Some sound / mod players are for example quite I/O and IRQ heavy. Hint hint.




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Re: [Freedos-user] x-comment to Michael Devore's message of 18 March

2005-03-19 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi,
Jose Antonio Senna escribió:
MD>GNU-ish type stuff suffers from the "we despise everything related to 
MD>Microsoft" and "Not Invented Here" syndromes, and its relationship with DOS 
MD>is often uneasy.  That said, DJGPP has never given me a problem when 
MD>testing recent EMM386 versions.

I never compiled anything using DJGPP,but I found DJGPP compiled applications,
as Lynx, much less stable with EMM386 than without, to the extent I no longer
use EMM386 while running them.
 

Why not commenting on them, so that we know what the problem is, and 
help us fix EMM386?

Aitor
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Re: [Freedos-user] x-comment to Michael Devore's message of 18 March

2005-03-19 Thread Michael Devore
At 03:41 AM 3/19/2005 -0300, Jose Antonio Senna wrote:
MD>GNU-ish type stuff suffers from the "we despise everything related to
MD>Microsoft" and "Not Invented Here" syndromes, and its relationship with 
DOS
MD>is often uneasy.  That said, DJGPP has never given me a problem when
MD>testing recent EMM386 versions.

 I never compiled anything using DJGPP,but I found DJGPP compiled 
applications,
as Lynx, much less stable with EMM386 than without, to the extent I no longer
use EMM386 while running them.
Many illegal memory accesses in programs which won't fail under HIMEM will 
fail with EMM386 loaded.  EMM386 does not allow memory reads/writes outside 
of the actual PC memory range due to protected mode /V86 throwing an 
exception when they occur.  Even if the memory access would otherwise be 
benign.

So, nonfatal memory bugs in an application can allow it to run fine without 
EMM386, then fail when EMM386 is loaded.

Is that the situation people are seeing here?  No idea.  But it's something 
to generally keep in mind when EMM386 or similar memory managers loaded.  I 
get bug reports that insist EMM386 has a bug because it fails on a program 
which previously ran "okay", when the program itself has the actual error.



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[Freedos-user] x-comment to Michael Devore's message of 18 March

2005-03-18 Thread Jose Antonio Senna

MD>GNU-ish type stuff suffers from the "we despise everything related to 
MD>Microsoft" and "Not Invented Here" syndromes, and its relationship with DOS 
MD>is often uneasy.  That said, DJGPP has never given me a problem when 
MD>testing recent EMM386 versions.

 I never compiled anything using DJGPP,but I found DJGPP compiled applications,
as Lynx, much less stable with EMM386 than without, to the extent I no longer
use EMM386 while running them.
 JAS




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