Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
Hi, On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:59 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > > The wayback site link is dead. Try this, it seems to work: http://web.archive.org/web/20141006080519/http://www.japheth.de/debxxf.html Although, again, I'm not sure which "debug" you're looking for. (He had another few of his own.) Again, AFAIK, the last Japheth-maintained version (based upon FD Debug) is 1.25, which is already mirrored on iBiblio. > I will try Christopher's suggestion of adding > the filename to the script - but like I said before many,many vintage debug > scripts are written without the filename. It would be a real hassle to have > to debug every debug script to be FreeDOS friendly. You're lucky that debug scripts are plain text! So they are easy to edit. It could be a binary patch, which is much less portable (to say the least)! -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
Shane, THANK YOU! I tried every "redirect" to a filename that was possible with no success. Then when I also tried MS-DOS 7.10 & the error popped I thought it was probably a "vintage" syntax issue but I could not see what was supposed to be happening at that point. After changing the script, this worked at it should. I am just learning about debugging and like you I have no problem with this particular compatibility issue. Thanks Again! On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Shane wrote: > I think I see what's going on. > > The purpose of "echo>> reint.scr/" is to add a blank line to the reint.scr > file. > This works in the MS-DOS COMMAND.COM shell, but not in the FreeDOS > COMMAND.COM shell nor in 4DOS. > > A (somewhat) more standard way to do this would be to instead use "echo.>> > reint.scr" > This works in the MS-DOS COMMAND.COM shell, the FreeDOS COMMAND.COM > shell, and 4DOS. > > Normally I'd want to see FreeDOS be more compatible, but in this case even > Windows 7 (both in .BAT and .CMD files) works with > "echo.>> reint.scr" and gives a similar error when faced with "echo>> > reint.scr/" -- so it looks like in this case even Microsoft gave up on the > nonstandard syntax! I have no complaints about FreeCOM scripts acting like > Windows 7 scripts. > > Yes, you will have to change every instance of that to make it run under > FreeCOM. > You could probably find a way to automate it. > > Once REINT.SCR is made, I'm pretty sure it will run under FreeDOS DEBUG as > well as MS-DOS DEBUG. > > - - Shane > > -- > Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 06:59:18 -0400 > From: donr...@gmail.com > To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug > > > The wayback site link is dead. I will try Christopher's suggestion of > adding the filename to the script - but like I said before many,many > vintage debug scripts are written without the filename. It would be a real > hassle to have to debug every debug script to be FreeDOS friendly. > > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Christopher Evans < > aaxiomfin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can't write to path with out filename specified. > > -- > -Chris Evans > Computer Consultant > Digitalatoll Solutions > (Tawhaki Software) > Cell. : 916-612-6904 > Office: 916-382-9395 > Affordable web hosting, search engine, and secure email provider > http://www.digitalatoll.com/ > http://www.digitalatoll.net/ > http://securemail.digiatoll.net/ > http://www.tawhakisoft.com/ > Domain for sale : http://norcalhost.com/ > > > On May 27, 2015 11:05 AM, "Don Flowers" wrote: > > I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus > 1-2-3 install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the > command that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > > > > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I > thought > > this bug was fixed. > > What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a > script? > > http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug > > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > -- > ___ Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
I think I see what's going on. The purpose of "echo>> reint.scr/" is to add a blank line to the reint.scr file. This works in the MS-DOS COMMAND.COM shell, but not in the FreeDOS COMMAND.COM shell nor in 4DOS. A (somewhat) more standard way to do this would be to instead use "echo.>> reint.scr" This works in the MS-DOS COMMAND.COM shell, the FreeDOS COMMAND.COM shell, and 4DOS. Normally I'd want to see FreeDOS be more compatible, but in this case even Windows 7 (both in .BAT and .CMD files) works with "echo.>> reint.scr" and gives a similar error when faced with "echo>> reint.scr/" -- so it looks like in this case even Microsoft gave up on the nonstandard syntax! I have no complaints about FreeCOM scripts acting like Windows 7 scripts. Yes, you will have to change every instance of that to make it run under FreeCOM. You could probably find a way to automate it. Once REINT.SCR is made, I'm pretty sure it will run under FreeDOS DEBUG as well as MS-DOS DEBUG. - - Shane Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 06:59:18 -0400 From: donr...@gmail.com To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug The wayback site link is dead. I will try Christopher's suggestion of adding the filename to the script - but like I said before many,many vintage debug scripts are written without the filename. It would be a real hassle to have to debug every debug script to be FreeDOS friendly. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Christopher Evans wrote: Can't write to path with out filename specified. -- -Chris Evans Computer Consultant Digitalatoll Solutions (Tawhaki Software) Cell. : 916-612-6904 Office: 916-382-9395 Affordable web hosting, search engine, and secure email provider http://www.digitalatoll.com/ http://www.digitalatoll.net/ http://securemail.digiatoll.net/ http://www.tawhakisoft.com/ Domain for sale : http://norcalhost.com/ On May 27, 2015 11:05 AM, "Don Flowers" wrote: I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus 1-2-3 install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the command that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I thought > this bug was fixed. What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a script? http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
The wayback site link is dead. I will try Christopher's suggestion of adding the filename to the script - but like I said before many,many vintage debug scripts are written without the filename. It would be a real hassle to have to debug every debug script to be FreeDOS friendly. On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Christopher Evans wrote: > Can't write to path with out filename specified. > > -- > -Chris Evans > Computer Consultant > Digitalatoll Solutions > (Tawhaki Software) > Cell. : 916-612-6904 > Office: 916-382-9395 > Affordable web hosting, search engine, and secure email provider > http://www.digitalatoll.com/ > http://www.digitalatoll.net/ > http://securemail.digiatoll.net/ > http://www.tawhakisoft.com/ > Domain for sale : http://norcalhost.com/ > > > On May 27, 2015 11:05 AM, "Don Flowers" wrote: > >> I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus >> 1-2-3 install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the >> command that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: >>> > >>> > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I >>> thought >>> > this bug was fixed. >>> >>> What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a >>> script? >>> >>> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug >>> >>> >>> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Freedos-user mailing list >>> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
Can't write to path with out filename specified. -- -Chris Evans Computer Consultant Digitalatoll Solutions (Tawhaki Software) Cell. : 916-612-6904 Office: 916-382-9395 Affordable web hosting, search engine, and secure email provider http://www.digitalatoll.com/ http://www.digitalatoll.net/ http://securemail.digiatoll.net/ http://www.tawhakisoft.com/ Domain for sale : http://norcalhost.com/ On May 27, 2015 11:05 AM, "Don Flowers" wrote: > I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus > 1-2-3 install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the > command that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: >> > >> > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I >> thought >> > this bug was fixed. >> >> What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a >> script? >> >> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug >> >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
Hi, On May 27, 2015 3:29 PM, "dmccunney" wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > > It is a redirect to from a: to c:\temp - MS-DOS Debug deals with as intended > > (Many, many SIMTEL debug scripts have similar commands). Japheth was aware > > of the bug and published an updated DEBUG but I cannot find it on his site > > or the link from his site. > > There's a link to what appears to be a Japeth version here: > https://sites.google.com/site/pcdosretro/enhdebug > > Source is included. I have no idea which version Don is referring to. And I have no idea when he was in contact with Japheth. But that is not Japheth's version. The last version modified by Japheth is 1.25 on iBiblio. This other version is a fork by some other dude (Vernon Brooks??), who (for reasons unknown) didn't care to even target FreeDOS and decided to restrict the license further, so it no longer free/libre software (can't redistribute). Saying "source is included" might be true, but it's not "open source" OSI) nor "free software" (FSF). And actually Japheth's trite remark on BTTR about this very thing is the last I ever heard from him. I have no idea what happened, but his website is long gone as well, and he's (AFAIK) not active at all anymore. If you want his other debugger, check the Wayback Archive for his site. Sad but true. :-( -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > It is a redirect to from a: to c:\temp - MS-DOS Debug deals with as intended > (Many, many SIMTEL debug scripts have similar commands). Japheth was aware > of the bug and published an updated DEBUG but I cannot find it on his site > or the link from his site. There's a link to what appears to be a Japeth version here: https://sites.google.com/site/pcdosretro/enhdebug Source is included. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
I have tried it with both the Freedos shell and 4DOS with the same result. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > It is a redirect to from a: to c:\temp - MS-DOS Debug deals with as > intended (Many, many SIMTEL debug scripts have similar commands). Japheth > was aware of the bug and published an updated DEBUG but I cannot find it on > his site or the link from his site. > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Well, you say you thought the bug was fixed. I'm not sure what that >> means. Has it been discussed previously? (BTW, sadly, yet again, there >> is no maintainer for this program. Sorry!) >> >> I've only written like two or three debug scripts myself in recent >> years (e.g. FD Touch). It's not something I do a lot, but it "should" >> work (in normal circumstances). >> >> "echo>> reinit.scr/" is very cryptic. I can only guess what you (or >> they) are trying to do here. >> >> Guess #1: "echo" by itself (without a dot at the end) will probably >> say "Echo is ON". I'm not sure that's what you're trying to do. >> >> Guess #2: ">> reinit.scr/" will probably choke on the trailing slash. >> Not sure if that was meant to be a backslash (for subdir) or not. Who >> knows, maybe MS Debug is more forgiving, but I doubt it. >> >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Don Flowers wrote: >> > >> > I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus >> 1-2-3 >> > install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the >> command >> > that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ >> > >> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I >> >> > thought this bug was fixed. >> >> >> >> What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a >> >> script? >> >> >> >> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug >> >> >> >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
It is a redirect to from a: to c:\temp - MS-DOS Debug deals with as intended (Many, many SIMTEL debug scripts have similar commands). Japheth was aware of the bug and published an updated DEBUG but I cannot find it on his site or the link from his site. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > Well, you say you thought the bug was fixed. I'm not sure what that > means. Has it been discussed previously? (BTW, sadly, yet again, there > is no maintainer for this program. Sorry!) > > I've only written like two or three debug scripts myself in recent > years (e.g. FD Touch). It's not something I do a lot, but it "should" > work (in normal circumstances). > > "echo>> reinit.scr/" is very cryptic. I can only guess what you (or > they) are trying to do here. > > Guess #1: "echo" by itself (without a dot at the end) will probably > say "Echo is ON". I'm not sure that's what you're trying to do. > > Guess #2: ">> reinit.scr/" will probably choke on the trailing slash. > Not sure if that was meant to be a backslash (for subdir) or not. Who > knows, maybe MS Debug is more forgiving, but I doubt it. > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > > > > I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus > 1-2-3 > > install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the > command > > that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers > wrote: > >> > > >> > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I > >> > thought this bug was fixed. > >> > >> What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a > >> script? > >> > >> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug > >> > >> > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
It looks like a command.com issue not debug. What shell are you using? On May 27, 2015 2:04 PM, "Don Flowers" wrote: > I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus > 1-2-3 install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the > command that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: >> > >> > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I >> thought >> > this bug was fixed. >> >> What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a >> script? >> >> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug >> >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
Hi, Well, you say you thought the bug was fixed. I'm not sure what that means. Has it been discussed previously? (BTW, sadly, yet again, there is no maintainer for this program. Sorry!) I've only written like two or three debug scripts myself in recent years (e.g. FD Touch). It's not something I do a lot, but it "should" work (in normal circumstances). "echo>> reinit.scr/" is very cryptic. I can only guess what you (or they) are trying to do here. Guess #1: "echo" by itself (without a dot at the end) will probably say "Echo is ON". I'm not sure that's what you're trying to do. Guess #2: ">> reinit.scr/" will probably choke on the trailing slash. Not sure if that was meant to be a backslash (for subdir) or not. Who knows, maybe MS Debug is more forgiving, but I doubt it. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Don Flowers wrote: > > I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus 1-2-3 > install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the command > that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: >> > >> > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I >> > thought this bug was fixed. >> >> What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a >> script? >> >> http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
I'm was using version 1.25 and using a batch file to reinit my Lotus 1-2-3 install disk. I booted into DOS 5.0 and am using it now. This is the command that causes error: echo>> reinit.scr/ On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > > > > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I > thought > > this bug was fixed. > > What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a > script? > > http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug > > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Debug bug
Hi, On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Don Flowers wrote: > > What is wrong with debug? - I keep getting cannot redirect error I thought > this bug was fixed. What do you mean? Which version? What are you trying to do, redirect a script? http://www.freedos.org/software/?prog=debug http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/debug/DEBUG125.zip -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
