Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 11-4-2012 21:33, Jack schreef: > Send me a private E-Mail, and if XMGR can be modified so Syslinux and > Isolinux do NOT "confuse" it, I will make such modifications in XMGR! I'll try to figure out what's going on, however have much doubt that I'd be skilled enough to actually find a root cau

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Jack
>>> ... With my own testing I found JEMMEX more compatible than XMGR >>> or HIMEMX + JEMM386 in various cases, but on other systems it is >>> different, as Mike mentioned ... >> >> To WHAT "incompatibilities" are you referring?? > > The A20 stuff that Syslinux/Isolinux (and MEMDISK) mess around wit

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 11-4-2012 21:10, Jack schreef: >> ... With my own testing I found JEMMEX more compatible than XMGR or >> HIMEMX + JEMM386 in various cases, but on other systems it's different, >> as Mike mentioned ... > > To WHAT "incompatibilities" are you referring?? The A20 stuff that Syslinux/Isolinux (and

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Jack
> ... With my own testing I found JEMMEX more compatible than XMGR or > HIMEMX + JEMM386 in various cases, but on other systems it's different, > as Mike mentioned ... To WHAT "incompatibilities" are you referring?? Be advised of the following -- 1) JEMMEX/JEMM386 use "old" memory-test schemes,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 11-4-2012 20:02, Rugxulo schreef: > > The entire idea of opensource was to be able to modify sources to suit a > person's needs. Most people, including me, haven't got enough interest > or experience to be a programmer, but still, a bi

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 11-4-2012 20:02, Rugxulo schreef: > Users will always need sources, esp. if they share, but they don't > necessarily need to unpack them. (Well, anyways, they probably don't > have all compilers anyways.) The entire idea of opensource was to be able to modify sources to suit a person's needs

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > >>> it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM >>> during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: >> >> This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I >> think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-11 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bernd, >> it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM >> during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: > > This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I > think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode modification would be > required to add a "-x source

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 10-4-2012 18:21, Eric Auer schreef: > it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM > during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: This seems to be specific to the old installer (v3.7.8 by Jeremy) I think, as that unpacks entire packages. Sourcecode modification would be required

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Bret Johnson
> Have you tried explicit "I=-" and "X=-" commands with > JEMM386/JEMMEX?? I've tried several different JEMM options -- none of them fixed the problem on that particular computer. I finally just gave up and went to other alternatives. --

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Jack
>> actually I would not even OFFER a boot menu item to skip loading the >> XMS driver at all: You cannot even boot the install CD / USB on old >> pre-XMS PC. > > Probably a bad idea for compatibility reasons, unless you offer multiple > choices for which XMS manager to install. E.g., I have a c

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
the "no-drivers" choice, No. 4, is provided because some programs, such as PLoP, will not load at all unless there are *no drivers* loaded, at least on my system...   PLoP chokes on any drivers in freedos 1.1, saying: "cannot run under windows in a dos box", in effect.   i kid you not.

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Bret Johnson
> actually I would not even OFFER a boot menu item to skip loading the > XMS driver at all: You cannot even boot the install CD / USB on old > pre-XMS PC. Probably a bad idea for compatibility reasons, unless you offer multiple choices for which XMS manager to install. E.g., I have a computer wh

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-10 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Bernd, it seems even on modern hardware unpacking FreeCOM during install may take VERY long, so we need a fix: - it is good to have source and binary in one zip - but you can use info-zip's command line options (-x source/*) to exclude sources from unzip :-) - a default install does not n

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-09 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 8-4-2012 19:44, Michael B. Brutman schreef: > Some of us figured out that on ancient hardware (8088, 80286, etc.) the > decompression process takes a long time. If you are running in a > virtual machine and your underlying hardware/operating system does not > fully support virtualization then y

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-08 Thread Michael B. Brutman
On 4/3/2012 1:18 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install > freedos to and from menu comes up. Another problem, install freezes at > installing command.com. Uge! > Are you installing on old hardware or in a virtual machine? Some of u

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 install errors...

2012-04-03 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Michael Robinson wrote: > > There is a syntax error message that flashes before the where to install > freedos to and from menu comes up.  Another problem, install freezes at > installing command.com.  Uge! I'm pretty sure it was agreed upon that it doesn't te