Re: [Freedos-user] Installing 1.0 packages using 1.1 installer

2011-08-08 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 8-8-2011 10:57, JPT schreef:
>
> I used the one from the 1.1 install CD.
>
>
> btw, I tried to get the most recent packages for download but...
>
> The freedos page only offers links to the developer's sites?
> So do they provide freedos compatible packages?
> ?!?!

the 1.1 install CD has both installers. The new one doesn't suit my 
automation purposes entirely yet as it doesn't switch to the target 
installation directory after finishing. While it's unable to do that, I 
can't determine what that directory is, and thus won't be able to let 
the post-install configuration script run to create autoexec.bat and 
config.sys files, install bootsector, etc.

When booting the CD, get to a command prompt, and type D:\SETUP.BAT TEST
(you might need to adjust the D:\ part if your CD drive has a different 
driveletter) and you should see the new installer in action.

The old one is present also on CD but its required parameters, as well 
as configuration files' location and contents, are a bit cryptic.
("install.exe /src x:\somedir /dst c:\somedir /df 
x:\blabla\install.min"). I'm thinking of renaming it to OLDINST.EXE and 
see what effect that has on this installer.

I'm also considering adding the new INSTALL program to a standard 
FreeDOS installation so programs can be easier installed (though FDPKG 
and FDUPD should be responsible for that).

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing 1.0 packages using 1.1 installer

2011-08-08 Thread Jim Hall
> btw, I tried to get the most recent packages for download but...
>
> The freedos page only offers links to the developer's sites?
> So do they provide freedos compatible packages?
> ?!?!


Not everyone does, unfortunately.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing 1.0 packages using 1.1 installer

2011-08-08 Thread JPT
Hi,


Am 07.08.2011 02:01, schrieb Jim Hall:
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, JPT  wrote:

[...]
>> Answering the questions "install all" and "install source" seems to be
>> odd. First tried N, N which resulted in an empty install. (still wrong
>> location). Then I tried Y,N which was printed as Y,Y on screen.
>> Maybe the installer was confused, because I pressed Z instead.
> 
> I think I can explain the first part. The current Install is
> hard-coded with the source directories to check. (BASE, DEVEL, ..) If
> you don't have these directories, or don't have any packages in those
> directories, there is nothing to install.
> 
> Probably should add an error if the install list is empty ... :-)
> 
> The second one seems like a bug, but one I thought I fixed. Did you
> use the latest version of Install?

I used the one from the 1.1 install CD.


btw, I tried to get the most recent packages for download but...

The freedos page only offers links to the developer's sites?
So do they provide freedos compatible packages?
?!?!

JPT




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Re: [Freedos-user] Installing 1.0 packages using 1.1 installer

2011-08-06 Thread Jim Hall
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, JPT  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> read this as a user experience report.
> Maybe you can add a few messages here and there to make more clear what
> is going on.
>
>
> Let me ask a single question, before we start:
> the Installer just takes any packages found, so for newer versions I
> just have to download them and put them so they are found by the
> installer? In this case, I am happy for now ;)

Correct, this is the behaviour. The special case is when you ask to
NOT install source code. In that case, Install will still unzip all
the files, but for each zip file will skip any SOURCE directory
contained therein.


> after having all files in place (on disk), I started the installer.
> It asks were to install to.
> I wrote c:\test since I am not sure, if it wants to know the DOS
> location. any suggestion would be nice.
> ** was a good idea, now I can compare the DOS and TEST dirs.
>  yes, it would have overwritten more recent software
>
> In the first time, I called the install.exe from the wrong location.
> I did not get any error message, it just did not install anything in no
> time *g*

Yeah, that's a bug. The functionality was stubbed in - I intend to
replace it with a more robust source checking. Actually, I'm
considering having it prompt for the install drive, and assume \FDOS.
That makes it easier on the user, but harder for expert users to
customize where the files get installed. As a "power user" option, I'm
thinking about allowing a command line option to specify the
destination - if present, it would not prompt for the install
destination.


> Answering the questions "install all" and "install source" seems to be
> odd. First tried N, N which resulted in an empty install. (still wrong
> location). Then I tried Y,N which was printed as Y,Y on screen.
> Maybe the installer was confused, because I pressed Z instead.

I think I can explain the first part. The current Install is
hard-coded with the source directories to check. (BASE, DEVEL, ..) If
you don't have these directories, or don't have any packages in those
directories, there is nothing to install.

Probably should add an error if the install list is empty ... :-)

The second one seems like a bug, but one I thought I fixed. Did you
use the latest version of Install?



-jh

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