Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
Yes, do! I'd be curious to see it. I realize this is many weeks late, but I finally have the new version of PRTSCR ready to go. The documentation was in far worse shape than I remembered, so that's what took most of my time. It's available from my web site: http://bretjohnson.us -- uberSVN's rich system and user administration capabilities and model configuration take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. Learn more about uberSVN and get a free download at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
I meant that support for controlling PRTSCR in this way could be a part of the PRTSCR program, without requiring the detour via SCANCODE. I can see where that might be desirable is some circumstances, though I purposely decided to go with a more modular design. Having separate programs is actually more flexible, even though it may be a little more cumbersome to implement. In terms of timing, I still need a few more days before I can upload it. I'm making some last minute additions to the program, and still need to update the documentation, before it's ready for publication. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
But isn't it the advantage of a free operating system that there are several alternative approaches available (often more or less different) and the user has the freedom to pick the one that fits best his special requirements? But before someone can make a choice one has to know that there is one. Indeed. Another interesting thing, though, is that in combination with my SCANCODE utility, it is actually possible to automate PRTSCR. SCANCODE is able to simulate keystrokes (including the PrintScreen key) into almost any other program, including PRTSCR. SCANCODE can be programmed to do this based on various input parameters, such as absolute or relative timing, some type of message appearing on or disappearing from the screen, or other criteria. SCANCODE is actually an _extremely_ powerful tool that can automate all sorts of keyboard-related tasks, though it can take some effort to program it to do what you want. Depending on what you're actually trying to accomplish, though, your program may be a better choice than even the combination of PRTSCR and SCANCODE. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
Indeed. Another interesting thing, though, is that in combination with my SCANCODE utility, it is actually possible to automate PRTSCR. Points for creativity, but you have to admit that actual support for command-line (or environment variable, script) driven operation of PRTSCR would be simpler, and would suffice in at least most cases. Regards, Christian -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
Points for creativity, but you have to admit that actual support for command-line (or environment variable, script) driven operation of PRTSCR would be simpler, and would suffice in at least most cases. I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. I think you can usually do what you're talking about with simple output redirection, so I have a feeling I'm missing something. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
I meant that support for controlling PRTSCR in this way could be a part of the PRTSCR program, without requiring the detour via SCANCODE. Regards, Christian -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Bret Johnson bretj...@juno.com wrote: You can look at my PRTSCR utility which works with the PrintScreen key, available on my web site: http://bretjohnson.us Oops! There is indeed a PRTSCR utility there, but it is an older, simpler version that doesn't have all of the features I mentioned. The version with all of the new features is still in beta on my computer. I will try to clean it up and get it onto the web site in the next few days. Yes, do! I'd be curious to see it. -jh -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:43:00 Eric Auer wrote: For those who read mails but do not follow all URLs, and to already give some feedback and plug ads for similar tools, DOSUTILS contains: First of all thank you for your feed back. Though i think some additional comments could be useful :-) ASKECHO - prompt for user input Note that FreeCOM command.com has a special SET for this. That's true, however DOSUTILS can be used with ANY kind of DOS even with such less advanced versions like MS-DOS 6.22 which lack this feature :-) RPN - perform integer calculations If you need floating point: The 1024 byte(!) calc387.com will be fun for you. For example Rugxulo's Ruffidea distro contains a copy of the tool :-) True, RPN can't do floating point. And even though it can be used interactively, its main purpose is to do (more or less) simple calculations in batch procedures, like numeric loop counters, comparison of two numbers and the like. And i can hardly imagine that some will seriously attempt to implement a fast fourier transform as a batch procedure :-) so the lack of floating point may not hurt too much. PIPESET - store the output of other programs in environment variables In a limited way, yet another exotic SET feature of the FreeCOM command.com can help you to do similar things. Can you pipe into FreeCOM's SET command? And PIPESET can do even more, it can cut a specific item out of the data stream (e.g. the size of a specific file from the output of the DIR command) SELECT - user menu and directory browser Dosemu long ago came with a directory browser called LCD which is about 15kB and has no features apart from letting you go to a dir using the cursor keys when you call it... I admit i do not know LCD, i had WINDOWS standard file dialoge in mind when developing this utility. So if you need a comfortable way to interactively specify a file from within a batch procedure then SELECT may become your friend. FORM - a very versatile dialogue utility for batch procedures FAM - automated text modification Similar to SED? FAM is _very_ remotely similar to AWK (but it is a single command line tool, while AWK is actually a script prcessor which can also be used on the command line. In addition AWK is strongly based on regular expressions while FAM uses a totally different principle, actually it was a spin-off from PIPSET. FORM is a totally different beast. It is a comfortable user interface for batch procedures. It displays a form, whichs layout can be very flexibly configured and returns the user's input in one ore more environent variables. One possible application could be the user dialogue for a configuration procedure but it is not limited to that purpose. SCRDUMP - a utility to dump parts of the screen to a file With a hotkey as TSR, I assume? Nope. Again this utility is most useful within batch files (e.g. autoexec.bat). Typically it is called twice, once before and a second time right after the command whichs output is to be copied to a file INVOKE - invoke program and report the error code it returned (test and debugging aid) You can use %ERRORLEVEL% in FreeCOM command.com for that, Right, but again, not all incarnations of DOS properly support %ERRORLEVEL%. Furthemore, the latest version allows as a side effect to re-direct stderr, which is otherwise not so easily done. I know, that not everyone is a fan of written documentation, but in this case i strongly recommend to read the files DOSUTILS.TXT and FORM.TXT they tell much more details than could be mentioned here. ___ Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
Hi! RPN - perform integer calculations If you need floating point: The 1024 byte(!) calc387.com will be fun for you. For example Rugxulo's Ruffidea distro contains a copy of the tool :-) True, RPN can't do floating point. And even though it can be used interactively, its main purpose is to do (more or less) simple calculations in batch procedures, like numeric loop counters, comparison of two numbers and the like. I have some add/sub tool, possibly in the same download as calc387 (which is not by me) which outputs the result as errorlevel which in turn can be useful for things like the loop counter you mention. As my page is still (since ages...) down, use the cosmodata mirror. http://ericauer.cosmodata.virtuaserver.com.br/soft/specials/factorial-calc387-add.zip As said, one of the good things about calc387 is the tiny size. PIPESET - store the output of other programs in environment variables In a limited way, yet another exotic SET feature of the FreeCOM command.com can help you to do similar things. Can you pipe into FreeCOM's SET command? And PIPESET can do even more, it can cut a specific item out of the data stream Yes you can but no SET can only take the first or last line of the output and put that in an env variable of your choice afair. So PIPESET can do a lot more than the built-in FreeCOM tricks. I admit i do not know LCD, i had WINDOWS standard file dialoge in mind when developing this utility. So if you need a comfortable way to interactively specify a file from within a batch procedure then SELECT may become your friend. Sounds very friendly :-) SCRDUMP - a utility to dump parts of the screen to a file With a hotkey as TSR, I assume? Nope. Again this utility is most useful within batch files (e.g. autoexec.bat). Typically it is called twice, once before and a second time right after the command whichs output is to be copied to a file A hotkey / TSR print screen to file tool would be nice, though. Maybe somebody on this list can recommend a nice tool for this? Furthemore, the latest version [of INVOKE] allows as a side effect to re-direct stderr, which is otherwise not so easily done. Which can indeed be quite useful :-) Regards, Eric -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
SCRDUMP - a utility to dump parts of the screen to a file With a hotkey as TSR, I assume? Nope. Again this utility is most useful within batch files (e.g. autoexec.bat). Typically it is called twice, once before and a second time right after the command whichs output is to be copied to a file A hotkey / TSR print screen to file tool would be nice, though. Maybe somebody on this list can recommend a nice tool for this? You can look at my PRTSCR utility which works with the PrintScreen key, available on my web site: http://bretjohnson.us It has quite a few options to let you filter the output to some degree (like skipping menu lines at the top or bottom of the screen, or skipping blank lines in the middle of the screen). It also lets you redirect the PrintScreen output to a device (like NUL or LPT3), instead of to a file. If you do multiple PrintScreens, it keeps appending the output to the same file instead of creating a separate file each time. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
You can look at my PRTSCR utility which works with the PrintScreen key, available on my web site: http://bretjohnson.us Oops! There is indeed a PRTSCR utility there, but it is an older, simpler version that doesn't have all of the features I mentioned. The version with all of the new features is still in beta on my computer. I will try to clean it up and get it onto the web site in the next few days. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New release of DOSUTILS package
Hi! For those who read mails but do not follow all URLs, and to already give some feedback and plug ads for similar tools, DOSUTILS contains: ASKECHO - prompt for user input Note that FreeCOM command.com has a special SET for this. TIMESTMP - write date/time in a very flexibly configurable format Sounds useful, also combined with PIPESET :-) RPN - perform integer calculations If you need floating point: The 1024 byte(!) calc387.com will be fun for you. For example Rugxulo's Ruffidea distro contains a copy of the tool :-) PIPESET - store the output of other programs in environment variables In a limited way, yet another exotic SET feature of the FreeCOM command.com can help you to do similar things. TEE - split data stream Useful for example to send program output BOTH to a log file and to the screen. An inversely related tool can be MORESYS where you can say program more$ instead of eg program | more or program | tee log.txt | more as in the more$ device acting like a console (no waiting) while pipelines in DOS wait until all output is complete. TR - translate characters TR tools can be useful for things like upper/lower casing text, changing line break style or breaking ROT13 code ;-) SELECT - user menu and directory browser Dosemu long ago came with a directory browser called LCD which is about 15kB and has no features apart from letting you go to a dir using the cursor keys when you call it... FORM - a very versatile dialogue utility for batch procedures FAM - automated text modification Similar to SED? PRINTF - an improved echo command Writers of fancy batch scripts will enjoy this. SCRDUMP - a utility to dump parts of the screen to a file With a hotkey as TSR, I assume? DUMPENV - show environment and parent's environment (test and debugging aid) CGENERR - return with defined error code (test and debugging aid) GENERR - return with defined error code (test and debugging aid) INVOKE - invoke program and report the error code it returned (test and debugging aid) You can use %ERRORLEVEL% in FreeCOM command.com for that, for example: C:\mode /foobar Unknown device or syntax error! 'MODE /?' shows help. C:\echo %ERRORLEVEL% 1 Regards, Eric PS: The page also features ETHTOOLS, where you can send and capture ethernet data and make stats, LANSTAT for networking, NTOOL which is yet another incarnation of the very useful NETCAT network cat, RMENU which is vaguely similar to a DOS TELNET server... and many screenshots of tools by Willi Wasser / JHoffmann :-) On 12.06.2011 22:09, Willi Wasser wrote: I just want to announce a new release of my DOSUTILS package. Besides some minor improvements to already existing utilities it features two aditional programs. One of them is a rather versatile forms program intended as user interface for batch procedures (e.g. configuration scripts) but it can also be used as (pseudo-)graphical front-end for traditional command-line controlled DOS commands. Please feel free to download and explore the package which can be downloaded from here: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ and of course i would appreciate many feed-backs. -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
