Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Eriksen 
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Willi Wasser  wrote:
> E . . .  first i don't quite understand why you need an NDIS(2) driver 
> _and_ a packet driver?
> A packet driver suitable for your network card allone should already do the 
> job.

Neither do I, but I must admit it's 15-20 year ago I did DOS
networking and frankly I remember very little. I decided to follow the
guide on the mentioned freedos page and thus ended up with both NDIS
and a packet driver. I assume I can lose the protman.* and the
protocol.ini as well as netbind then?

> There are quite a number of TCP/IP stacks for DOS out there, many of them are 
> commecial products.
>
> Rather popular and free, is WATTCP written by Erick Engelke, although it 
> isn't a "stack" in the proper sense. Rather it's a library of TCP/IP routines 
> that is linked directly into the application programs. For the user of such 
> programs this doesn't make much difference.
>
> Basic programs, like PING, TRACEROUTE, an FTP-client etc. come with it. It 
> isn't that difficult to set-up. All you need is a packet driver and a 
> configuration file and there you go.
>
> An alternative might be the set of programs Mike Brutman wrote for his mTCP 
> projects, which is also frtee.

Yes, I think I'll try this one out first. It new and sexy, but agreed
WATTCP is tested and tried. We'll see.

> Last, but not least, you might have a look on some of the networking programs 
> i wrote which you will find here: 
> http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/

I'll have a look for sure. Thank you.

Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Willi Wasser 
E . . .  first i don't quite understand why you need an NDIS(2) driver 
_and_ a packet driver?
A packet driver suitable for your network card allone should already do the job.

There are quite a number of TCP/IP stacks for DOS out there, many of them are 
commecial products.

Rather popular and free, is WATTCP written by Erick Engelke, although it isn't 
a "stack" in the proper sense. Rather it's a library of TCP/IP routines that is 
linked directly into the application programs. For the user of such programs 
this doesn't make much difference.

Basic programs, like PING, TRACEROUTE, an FTP-client etc. come with it. It 
isn't that difficult to set-up. All you need is a packet driver and a 
configuration file and there you go. 

An alternative might be the set of programs Mike Brutman wrote for his mTCP 
projects, which is also frtee.

Last, but not least, you might have a look on some of the networking programs i 
wrote which you will find here: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/
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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Ulrich Hansen 
Am 05.08.2010 21:39, schrieb Mike Eriksen:

> But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
> importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
> and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.

Go to Erick Engelkes website
http://www.erickengelke.com/wattcp/

and download WATTCP.
wat2002b.zip

Binaries are in the folder "apps" as "apps.zip"

Then go to the WATT32 site of Gisle Vanem. Binaries can be found in 
the file
watt32b-2.2-dev.10.zip.

Additional WATT32 programs can be downloaded here:
http://www.filegate.net/utiln/utilnet/wt32apps.zip

If you have installed the full CD distribution of freedos, you already 
may have some wattcp-programs (wget, arachne) installed on your 
system. There should be also a SET statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT that 
points to the configuration file WATTCP.CFG.

Edit this file like described in:


and start networking... ;-)

> I somewhere read
> that the FTP Software Inc suite is freely available, but I can't find
> it.

Not that I heard of. But you may still buy it:


Uli

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Mike Eriksen 
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Robert Riebisch  wrote:
> Mike Eriksen wrote:
>
>> But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this
>> guide: 
>> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation
>> so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think,
>> at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM.
>>
>> But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
>> importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
>> and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.
>
> Did you read the other pages at
> ?
>
> Robert Riebisch

Yes, but apparently I missed mTCP entry thats looks perfect. I'll have
to investigate.

Thanks a lot for the hint.

Mike

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Re: [Freedos-user] Recommondatipn of TCP/IP stack, DHCP client

2010-08-05 Thread Robert Riebisch 
Mike Eriksen wrote:

> But more wants more and now I try to get networked. I followed this
> guide: 
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Networking_FreeDOS_-_NDIS_driver_installation
> so now I have NDIS2 driver and packet driver up and running. I think,
> at least there is no error message and the driver takes up RAM.
> 
> But now I need a TCP/IP stack and some basic network programs, most
> importantly a dhcp client but also ping, ftp, telnet... I've googled
> and searching the FD pages but haven't really found what I look for.

Did you read the other pages at
?

Robert Riebisch
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