Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Karen Lewellen]

Oh one more point.
that is not a reliable Ethernet card...I do not live in  England lol!


On Tue, 7 Oct 2014, Ulrich wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
> I see the 600x has no network connectivity. So first of all you would need a 
> PCMCIA network card.
>
> A wifi card is not really an option. As you see here:
>
> http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/WiFi
>
> 802.11b is the only mode you could possibly get DOS drivers for. If you find 
> such a PCMCIA card at all, I am not sure you find a wifi access point that 
> still offers this connection.
>
> So I'd stick to Michaels and Matejs suggestion and get an Ethernet card and 
> connect this to a second mobile device.
>
> A good and reliable PCMCIA Ethernet card was this one:
> 
> It even comes with a DOS packet driver.
>
> To get it to work you need to configure PCMCIA. It is most likely your 
> Thinkpad came with drivers for that. If not, send a note.
>
> So: There is a very good chance you can get a PCMCIA Ethernet Card up and 
> running in FreeDOS.
>
> Now how to make a connection to the internet?
>
> It seems to me, this little gadget, a Huawei E5151, might be what you want. 
> (As I don't know where you live: This is the version for Europe and T-Mobile 
> USA).
> 
>
> It connects to 3G/4G and you can use the Ethernet/LAN port to plug in the 
> Thinkpad/PCMCIA card's network cable. (Caution: Other devices also have such 
> a port, but sometimes only for WAN, so you can not use the port to plug in 
> your laptop.)
>
> It is battery powered, so you don't even need a cable long enough for that 
> :-).
>
> What doesn't work: As far as I understood the E5151 can not access another 
> WiFi access point and connect you to it through ethernet. For this you would 
> need a different device.
>
> Hope this helps a bit... :-)
>
> Ulrich
>
>
>
> Am 06.10.2014 um 18:55 schrieb Michael Brutman :
>
>> That approach is "faking it" but it works and it sidesteps the questions 
>> about wireless drivers, encryption, etc.
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2014 9:52 AM, "Matej Horvat"  wrote:
>> This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS:
>>
>> http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html
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Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi,
A current list of pcmcia cards was the thrust of my question.  Thanks for 
illustrating that the list remains the same.
It will be far far easier for me to find the access point supporting such 
a wireless connection then it will be to find a second mobile device etc.
My provider here still offers it, so basically it is sitting on my desk.
granted finding the basic Ethernet card will be simple too, if I never 
need to put this machine on the Internet outside of my house,  which is 
possible, it is worth considering.
far far more practical then the mobile device idea.
Thanks to all for their ideas, will likely get both an Ethernet card and 
make an effort at the wireless one just for kicks.
the mobile idea is out though.
  No need for further discussion.
Kare


On Tue, 7 Oct 2014, Ulrich wrote:

> Hi Karen,
>
> I see the 600x has no network connectivity. So first of all you would need a 
> PCMCIA network card.
>
> A wifi card is not really an option. As you see here:
>
> http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/WiFi
>
> 802.11b is the only mode you could possibly get DOS drivers for. If you find 
> such a PCMCIA card at all, I am not sure you find a wifi access point that 
> still offers this connection.
>
> So I'd stick to Michaels and Matejs suggestion and get an Ethernet card and 
> connect this to a second mobile device.
>
> A good and reliable PCMCIA Ethernet card was this one:
> 
> It even comes with a DOS packet driver.
>
> To get it to work you need to configure PCMCIA. It is most likely your 
> Thinkpad came with drivers for that. If not, send a note.
>
> So: There is a very good chance you can get a PCMCIA Ethernet Card up and 
> running in FreeDOS.
>
> Now how to make a connection to the internet?
>
> It seems to me, this little gadget, a Huawei E5151, might be what you want. 
> (As I don't know where you live: This is the version for Europe and T-Mobile 
> USA).
> 
>
> It connects to 3G/4G and you can use the Ethernet/LAN port to plug in the 
> Thinkpad/PCMCIA card's network cable. (Caution: Other devices also have such 
> a port, but sometimes only for WAN, so you can not use the port to plug in 
> your laptop.)
>
> It is battery powered, so you don't even need a cable long enough for that 
> :-).
>
> What doesn't work: As far as I understood the E5151 can not access another 
> WiFi access point and connect you to it through ethernet. For this you would 
> need a different device.
>
> Hope this helps a bit... :-)
>
> Ulrich
>
>
>
> Am 06.10.2014 um 18:55 schrieb Michael Brutman :
>
>> That approach is "faking it" but it works and it sidesteps the questions 
>> about wireless drivers, encryption, etc.
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2014 9:52 AM, "Matej Horvat"  wrote:
>> This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS:
>>
>> http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Ulrich]

Hi Karen,

I see the 600x has no network connectivity. So first of all you would need a 
PCMCIA network card.

A wifi card is not really an option. As you see here:

http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/WiFi 

802.11b is the only mode you could possibly get DOS drivers for. If you find 
such a PCMCIA card at all, I am not sure you find a wifi access point that 
still offers this connection.

So I'd stick to Michaels and Matejs suggestion and get an Ethernet card and 
connect this to a second mobile device.

A good and reliable PCMCIA Ethernet card was this one:

It even comes with a DOS packet driver.

To get it to work you need to configure PCMCIA. It is most likely your Thinkpad 
came with drivers for that. If not, send a note.

So: There is a very good chance you can get a PCMCIA Ethernet Card up and 
running in FreeDOS.

Now how to make a connection to the internet?

It seems to me, this little gadget, a Huawei E5151, might be what you want. (As 
I don't know where you live: This is the version for Europe and T-Mobile USA).


It connects to 3G/4G and you can use the Ethernet/LAN port to plug in the 
Thinkpad/PCMCIA card's network cable. (Caution: Other devices also have such a 
port, but sometimes only for WAN, so you can not use the port to plug in your 
laptop.)

It is battery powered, so you don't even need a cable long enough for that :-).

What doesn't work: As far as I understood the E5151 can not access another WiFi 
access point and connect you to it through ethernet. For this you would need a 
different device.

Hope this helps a bit... :-)

Ulrich



Am 06.10.2014 um 18:55 schrieb Michael Brutman :

> That approach is "faking it" but it works and it sidesteps the questions 
> about wireless drivers, encryption, etc.
> 
> On Oct 6, 2014 9:52 AM, "Matej Horvat"  wrote:
> This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS:
> 
> http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html
> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Michael Brutman]

That approach is "faking it" but it works and it sidesteps the questions
about wireless drivers, encryption, etc.
On Oct 6, 2014 9:52 AM, "Matej Horvat"  wrote:

> This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS:
>
> http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Karen Lewellen]

fair point.
it is an IBM thinkpad 600x which is a p3.  presently it has ms dos 7.10.
As for what most people do...in my dictionary there is no such thing as 
most people, smiles.
I would likely get more than one card, wired connecting via Ethernet and 
wireless.  However I intend this machine for road working and have yet to 
find a cable long enough for that sort of thing smiles.
Kare


On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Louis Santillan wrote:

> There are few WiFi DOS drivers and probably none of the 2G, 3G, or LTE
> variety.  If you're talking about literal modem card (RJ11), then
> there are quite a few cards and drivers but few dial-up networks.  Few
> people have kept the info current.  Most people these days keep their
> DOS machines connected via ethernet.  And without knowing what machine
> you're aiming to have this hardware installed on, it's hard to help
> you.  Is it PCMCIA (which version?), USB (not likely to work in DOS),
> something else?  You need to google for it and/or give more info.
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Karen Lewellen  
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> since my first post got shifted to a different issue for another person. I
>> am sending it again.
>> There was some information on this, a list of modem cards that worked in
>> freedos.  I am wondering if this  information has been updated, or if it
>> remains current?  See below.
>> Karen
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>
>>> In freedos I mean?
>>> Has been a while since I asked.  still I am considering a freedos
>>> experiment for a  laptop.  I want to know if the tools needed and that work
>>> have been investigated of late?
>>> laptop only, I have no intention of changing my desktop to freedos.
>>> Kare
>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Matej Horvat]

This might be a good solution for wireless networking in DOS:

http://brutman.com/Wireless_for_Classics/Wireless_for_Classics.html

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Re: [Freedos-user] resending my question is using freedos to network with a laptop.

[Louis Santillan]

There are few WiFi DOS drivers and probably none of the 2G, 3G, or LTE
variety.  If you're talking about literal modem card (RJ11), then
there are quite a few cards and drivers but few dial-up networks.  Few
people have kept the info current.  Most people these days keep their
DOS machines connected via ethernet.  And without knowing what machine
you're aiming to have this hardware installed on, it's hard to help
you.  Is it PCMCIA (which version?), USB (not likely to work in DOS),
something else?  You need to google for it and/or give more info.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> Hi,
> since my first post got shifted to a different issue for another person. I
> am sending it again.
> There was some information on this, a list of modem cards that worked in
> freedos.  I am wondering if this  information has been updated, or if it
> remains current?  See below.
> Karen
>
>
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
>> In freedos I mean?
>> Has been a while since I asked.  still I am considering a freedos
>> experiment for a  laptop.  I want to know if the tools needed and that work
>> have been investigated of late?
>> laptop only, I have no intention of changing my desktop to freedos.
>> Kare
>>
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