Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Fabrício Ceolin wrote: Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? I use TERMIN.COM on 24/7 POS systems with no recourse to rebooting. Not sure where I found it as it's not part of FREEDOS example from .bat REM LOAD COMMS LH C:\NETWORK\LSL.COM /C=C:\NETWORK\NET.CFG LH %NIC% LH C:\NETWORK\ODIPKT.COM 0 96 REM UNLOAD COMMS TERMIN.COM.com 96 %NIC% /u LSL /u where %NIC% = Netware ODI driver -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi, Thanks everybody. Reboot it's not a option. I'm creating a script for bios update. Part of process is access a TCP/IP net, but I need to free memory to run a update executable. I'll try using a TERMIN.COM and report it! Best regards! On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:47 AM, bwspos bws...@gmail.com wrote: Fabrício Ceolin wrote: Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? I use TERMIN.COM on 24/7 POS systems with no recourse to rebooting. Not sure where I found it as it's not part of FREEDOS example from .bat REM LOAD COMMS LH C:\NETWORK\LSL.COM /C=C:\NETWORK\NET.CFG LH %NIC% LH C:\NETWORK\ODIPKT.COM 0 96 REM UNLOAD COMMS TERMIN.COM.com 96 %NIC% /u LSL /u where %NIC% = Netware ODI driver -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Fabrício Ceolin ulevel.com Diretor Executivo -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Do BIOS update 100 % step by step as the manual says. No experiments wit h DOS versions, TSR's, boot medium (if you shall use legacy floppy then do so). Otherwise you risk the BIOS update to fail as the developers did not thought about your modified use. Ok, well you can experiment if you have the equipment to remove the flash chip and to flash it from outside. -mr Fabrício Ceolin schrieb: Hi, Thanks everybody. Reboot it's not a option. I'm creating a script for bios update. Part of process is access a TCP/IP net, but I need to free memory to run a update executable. I'll try using a TERMIN.COM and report it! Best regards! On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:47 AM, bwspos bws...@gmail.com wrote: Fabrício Ceolin wrote: Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? I use TERMIN.COM on 24/7 POS systems with no recourse to rebooting. Not sure where I found it as it's not part of FREEDOS example from .bat REM LOAD COMMS LH C:\NETWORK\LSL.COM /C=C:\NETWORK\NET.CFG LH %NIC% LH C:\NETWORK\ODIPKT.COM 0 96 REM UNLOAD COMMS TERMIN.COM.com 96 %NIC% /u LSL /u where %NIC% = Netware ODI driver -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Michael Reichenbach michael_reichenb...@freenet.de wrote: Do BIOS update 100 % step by step as the manual says. No experiments wit h DOS versions, TSR's, boot medium (if you shall use legacy floppy then do so). Otherwise you risk the BIOS update to fail as the developers did not thought about your modified use. Ok, well you can experiment if you have the equipment to remove the flash chip and to flash it from outside. I can do experiments! -mr Fabrício Ceolin schrieb: Hi, Thanks everybody. Reboot it's not a option. I'm creating a script for bios update. Part of process is access a TCP/IP net, but I need to free memory to run a update executable. I'll try using a TERMIN.COM and report it! Best regards! On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:47 AM, bwspos bws...@gmail.com wrote: Fabrício Ceolin wrote: Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? I use TERMIN.COM on 24/7 POS systems with no recourse to rebooting. Not sure where I found it as it's not part of FREEDOS example from .bat REM LOAD COMMS LH C:\NETWORK\LSL.COM /C=C:\NETWORK\NET.CFG LH %NIC% LH C:\NETWORK\ODIPKT.COM 0 96 REM UNLOAD COMMS TERMIN.COM.com 96 %NIC% /u LSL /u where %NIC% = Netware ODI driver -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Fabrício Ceolin ulevel.com Diretor Executivo -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi Michael, Do BIOS update 100 % step by step as the manual says. No experiments wit h DOS versions, TSR's, boot medium (if you shall use legacy floppy then do so). Otherwise you risk the BIOS update to fail as the developers did not thought about your modified use. I agree that unloading TSRs can cause risks, but I would not overdo the 100% step by step part. Remember that even big mainboard makers shipped half-broken modifications of FreeDOS with their products and that for example MS DOS simply is no longer legally available for normal post-Win9x home users. Ok, well you can experiment if you have the equipment to remove the flash chip and to flash it from outside. Better BIOSes have various fallback options, such as a second copy of the BIOS or a part which cannot be flashed which is able to load update floppies even after a failed BIOS update. I personally would say that floppy is best (if you still have a drive) followed by harddisk, CD/DVD and then USB. You should avoid loading EMM386 for compatibility reasons but HIMEM should be safe for most BIOS update tools as far as I remember... If your BIOS USB drivers are not stable, it might help to copy all relevant files to RAMDISK before updating the BIOS. You could even BOOT from a RAMDISK, using ISOLINUX / SYSLINUX and MEMDISK. In general, it is bad if you have to load fancy drivers such as USB, NTFS or network, between booting and flashing... It is much better if you can put your BIOS update files directly on the drive where you will boot from, so you need no extra driver. Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). There are any way to unload programs without reboot? The best method is to use programs that provide unloading as option so that they can properly unload themself. If you have to use a program without such an option you may want to try out the TSR Utilities (freeware without source code) which save some important system data before you install the program, then try to unload the program later by restoring this data. This method doesn't work for all programs so you have to be careful with it. I think the TSR Utilities don't work with programs loaded in FDCONFIG.SYS but you could try whether that program can be loaded by DEVLOAD (on Eric's site, or on the FreeDOS software page) instead. Regards, Christian -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] unload previsiously loaded exe and sys on fdconfig.sys
Hi, I want free some freedos memory after using a packet driver and others sys (under fdconfig.sys) and exe (like doskey). I recommend to have 2 different config sys menu items: With and without internet :-). Doskey should not be necessary, FreeCOM and 4DOS have built-in history... There are any way to unload programs without reboot? Some tools which work with snapshot and restore of some system state can do this, and some drivers have a built- in unload option, but it is easier and more stable in the result to just reboot. Booting DOS only takes seconds :-) Eric -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
