Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-03 Thread Stef Walter
On 02.10.2013 13:10, Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 1.10.2013 22:08, Rob Crittenden wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-03 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 3.10.2013 09:41, Stef Walter wrote: On 02.10.2013 13:10, Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 1.10.2013 22:08, Rob Crittenden wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-02 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 1.10.2013 22:08, Rob Crittenden wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote:

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-02 Thread Simo Sorce
- Original Message - On 1.10.2013 22:08, Rob Crittenden wrote: Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote:

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-01 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: It reminds me problems with key-rotation for

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-01 Thread Stef Walter
On 01.10.2013 12:32, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: It

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-01 Thread Simo Sorce
- Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: It reminds me

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-01 Thread Stef Walter
On 01.10.2013 21:57, Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM,

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-10-01 Thread Rob Crittenden
Simo Sorce wrote: - Original Message - On 13.9.2013 11:05, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote:

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-13 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 22.8.2013 15:43, Jan Cholasta wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP (https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3259,

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-13 Thread Martin Kosek
On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 22.8.2013 15:43, Jan Cholasta wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-13 Thread Jakub Hrozek
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 10:28:36AM +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 22.8.2013 15:43, Jan Cholasta wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-13 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 13.9.2013 10:53, Martin Kosek wrote: On 09/13/2013 10:51 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 5.9.2013 10:28, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: It reminds me problems with key-rotation for DNSSEC. Could we find common problems and

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-11 Thread Jan Pazdziora
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:10:25AM -0400, Dmitri Pal wrote: Regarding SNI, it apparently is not supported in server-side NSS (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360421) We need to either push for a solution to this or allow to switch to mod_ssl. Jan Pazdziora investigated

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-10 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 9.9.2013 17:54, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 10:40 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote: Jan Cholasta wrote: On 9.9.2013 16:02, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 05:17 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-10 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2013-09-10 at 10:30 +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 9.9.2013 17:54, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 10:40 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote: Jan Cholasta wrote: On 9.9.2013 16:02, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 05:17 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-10 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 09/10/2013 08:49 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: What if there is no IPA CA (CA-less)? Should we assume that the user has their own CA in control and allow only certs signed by that single CA? Regarding SNI, it apparently is not supported in server-side NSS

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Jan Cholasta
Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow granular control over what CA is trusted for what service (e.g. trust CA1 to issue certificates for

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 11:17 +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow granular control over what CA is trusted

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread John Dennis
On 09/09/2013 10:02 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 11:17:02AM +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow granular

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 9.9.2013 15:36, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 11:17 +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow granular

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 9.9.2013 16:05, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:02 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 11:17:02AM +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:05:59AM -0400, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:02 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: I'd expect it to depend heavily on whether or not you're chaining up to an external CA. Personally, I'd very much want to keep a different set of trust anchors for PKINIT in that

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread John Dennis
On 09/09/2013 10:24 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:05:59AM -0400, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:02 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: I'd expect it to depend heavily on whether or not you're chaining up to an external CA. Personally, I'd very much want to keep a different

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 9.9.2013 16:02, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 05:17 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow granular control over

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Rob Crittenden
Jan Cholasta wrote: On 9.9.2013 16:02, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 05:17 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread John Dennis
On 09/09/2013 05:17 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for everything good enough? Using distinctive sets would allow granular control over what CA is trusted for what

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 16:19 +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: On 9.9.2013 15:36, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 11:17 +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one set for

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:32:08AM -0400, John Dennis wrote: Good point. Isn't there an X509 extension (possibly part of PKIX?) which restricts membership in the chain path to a criteria. In other words you can require your sub-CA to be present in the chain. Sorry, but my memory is a bit fuzzy

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 10:40 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote: Jan Cholasta wrote: On 9.9.2013 16:02, John Dennis wrote: On 09/09/2013 05:17 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote: Another question: Should each IPA service (LDAP, HTTP, PKINIT) have its own distinctive set of trusted CAs, or is using one

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Henry B. Hotz
Aren't the implementations of name constrains generally buggy, and therefore not usable in real life? On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai na...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:32:08AM -0400, John Dennis wrote: Good point. Isn't there an X509 extension (possibly part of

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Henry B. Hotz
I would strongly argue for a separate CA list for PKINIT (service or workstation login) vice HTTP (web browsing of semi-unknown sites). The trust models are fundamentally different. In the former case you are saying who is allowed to issue (conceivably fraudulent) client certs that allow

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-09 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 01:07:09PM -0700, Henry B. Hotz wrote: On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai na...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 10:32:08AM -0400, John Dennis wrote: Good point. Isn't there an X509 extension (possibly part of PKIX?) which restricts membership in

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-05 Thread Jan Cholasta
On 3.9.2013 18:16, Dmitri Pal wrote: On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 22.8.2013 15:43, Jan Cholasta wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP (https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3259, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3520).

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-03 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 09/02/2013 04:49 AM, Petr Spacek wrote: On 22.8.2013 15:43, Jan Cholasta wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP (https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3259, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3520). This will be useful for CA

Re: [Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-09-02 Thread Petr Spacek
On 22.8.2013 15:43, Jan Cholasta wrote: Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP (https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3259, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3520). This will be useful for CA certificate renewal

[Freeipa-devel] Multiple CA certificates in LDAP, questions

2013-08-22 Thread Jan Cholasta
Hi, I'm currently investigating support for multiple CA certificates in LDAP (https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3259, https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3520). This will be useful for CA certificate renewal (https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3304,