Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-14 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:40:50 -0400
Adam Young  wrote:

> FreeIPA is an authentication and authorization framework for large
> scale Linux and Unix deployments.   FreeIPA Integrates servers for
> Kerberos, LDAP, DNS, and X509 Certificates into a secure, reliable,
> and scalable identity management solution.

Ack!

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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread JR Aquino

On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Adam Young wrote:

> On 04/13/2011 09:26 PM, Adam Young wrote:
>> On 04/13/2011 09:15 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:05:02 -0400
>>> Adam Young  wrote:
>>> 
 "FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management
 framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of
 Linux and Unix clients."
 
>>> I'd like to ack, but when I see framework I think of something that
>>> needs further work and integration to be useful.
>>> 
>>> I'll take my crack at it:
>>> "FreeIPA is an integrated identity and computer management solution,
>>> built on open standards, centered on servicing Linux and Unix based
>>> infrastructures"
>> 
>> I like that better.  But "identity and computer management" is awkward.  I 
>> think we should stick with authentication and authorization:
>> 
>> Next hack:
>> 
>> FreeIPA is an open standards based authentication and authorization solution 
>> for large scale Linux and Unix deployments.
> 
> Self NACK.  Next attempt:
> 
> 
> FreeIPA is an authentication and authorization framework for large scale 
> Linux and Unix deployments.   FreeIPA Integrates servers for Kerberos, LDAP, 
> DNS, and X509 Certificates into a secure, reliable, and scalable identity 
> management solution.

I like it! 
ACK



I see a lot of google hits for that pairing.


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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Young

On 04/13/2011 09:26 PM, Adam Young wrote:

On 04/13/2011 09:15 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:05:02 -0400
Adam Young  wrote:


"FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management
framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of
Linux and Unix clients."


I'd like to ack, but when I see framework I think of something that
needs further work and integration to be useful.

I'll take my crack at it:
"FreeIPA is an integrated identity and computer management solution,
built on open standards, centered on servicing Linux and Unix based
infrastructures"


I like that better.  But "identity and computer management" is 
awkward.  I think we should stick with authentication and authorization:


Next hack:

FreeIPA is an open standards based authentication and authorization 
solution for large scale Linux and Unix deployments.


Self NACK.  Next attempt:


FreeIPA is an authentication and authorization framework for large scale 
Linux and Unix deployments.   FreeIPA Integrates servers for Kerberos, 
LDAP, DNS, and X509 Certificates into a secure, reliable, and scalable 
identity management solution.





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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread JR Aquino
On Apr 13, 2011, at 6:15 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:05:02 -0400
> Adam Young  wrote:
> 
>> "FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management 
>> framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of 
>> Linux and Unix clients."
>> 
> 
> I'd like to ack, but when I see framework I think of something that
> needs further work and integration to be useful.

If framework carries with it a stigma, it was not my intention to hint at an 
unfinished project.

My intention was to capture the fact that the FreeIPA system is modular and 
plugin based, such that additional components can be added to the framework.

If there is a better word to describe this trait, I am all for it!

Authorization felt like a good strong word that would reflect the v2 features 
of HBAC/SUDO/DOGTAG.

Something that very clearly separates FreeIPA from 'other' authentication 
solutions such as Standard LDAP, Kerberos, Novell eDirectory, or Symas Unified 
User Management.

> I'll take my crack at it:
> "FreeIPA is an integrated identity and computer management solution,
> built on open standards, centered on servicing Linux and Unix based
> infrastructures"
> 
> Simo.
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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Young

On 04/13/2011 09:15 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:05:02 -0400
Adam Young  wrote:


"FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management
framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of
Linux and Unix clients."


I'd like to ack, but when I see framework I think of something that
needs further work and integration to be useful.

I'll take my crack at it:
"FreeIPA is an integrated identity and computer management solution,
built on open standards, centered on servicing Linux and Unix based
infrastructures"


I like that better.  But "identity and computer management" is awkward.  
I think we should stick with authentication and authorization:


Next hack:

FreeIPA is an open standards based authentication and authorization 
solution for large scale Linux and Unix deployments.



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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:05:02 -0400
Adam Young  wrote:

> "FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management 
> framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of 
> Linux and Unix clients."
> 

I'd like to ack, but when I see framework I think of something that
needs further work and integration to be useful.

I'll take my crack at it:
"FreeIPA is an integrated identity and computer management solution,
built on open standards, centered on servicing Linux and Unix based
infrastructures"

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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 04/13/2011 05:05 PM, Adam Young wrote:
> On 04/13/2011 04:26 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>> On 04/13/2011 04:23 PM, JR Aquino wrote:
>>> On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>>>
 On 04/13/2011 11:34 AM, Adam Young wrote:
> The FreeIPA.org Landing page needs a better description of the
> project.  Can anyone suggest a One-Three line description that
> orients
> people to FreeIPA, assuming they know little/nothing about the
> project?  Exl;ainig that it integrates Kerbers an LDAp is the second
> step, but it really is an implementation detail.
>
> I typacilly tell people that we do for Linux systems what Active
> Directory does for Windows systems.  This explanation works for
> people
> familiar with AD, and then we can talk about how IPA is built on open
> source code and open standards.
>
>
> The closest we have4 right now is
>
> "FreeIPA is an integrated security information management solution
> ..."  this is a good start, but is a little generic.
>
> I'll throw this out as a strawman:
>
> FreeIPA is a centralized management solution for Users and Computers.
> Built on Open Standards and open source software, IPA allows you to
> securely  establish policy for access to the resources in your
> organization.
>
>
 FreeIPA is a centralized identity management and authentication
 solution
 built on open standards leveraging proven technologies. It is a
 authentication and identity hub with focus towards the needs of the
 Linux/Unix clients.
>>> FreeIPA is a scalable centralized identity management framework.
>>> It is built on open standards that provide authentication and
>>> authorization with a focus towards the needs of the Linux/Unix
>>> clients .
>>>
> I suspect term "Identity management Framework"   might be too general
> to orient people not already thinking "Users and Computers"
>
> The term Scalable is an unnecessary buzzword.  Can we cut it down to
> this?
>
> "FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management
> framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of
> Linux and Unix clients."
>

Works for me.

>
>> Bingo!
>>
>>> ---
>>> Scalable authorization is a big one that has yet to be properly
>>> solved in the Linux Community for a central directory.
>>> It should be captured in our description.
>>>
> I challenge you to come up with a better one.
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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Young

On 04/13/2011 04:26 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:

On 04/13/2011 04:23 PM, JR Aquino wrote:

On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:


On 04/13/2011 11:34 AM, Adam Young wrote:

The FreeIPA.org Landing page needs a better description of the
project.  Can anyone suggest a One-Three line description that orients
people to FreeIPA, assuming they know little/nothing about the
project?  Exl;ainig that it integrates Kerbers an LDAp is the second
step, but it really is an implementation detail.

I typacilly tell people that we do for Linux systems what Active
Directory does for Windows systems.  This explanation works for people
familiar with AD, and then we can talk about how IPA is built on open
source code and open standards.


The closest we have4 right now is

"FreeIPA is an integrated security information management solution
..."  this is a good start, but is a little generic.

I'll throw this out as a strawman:

FreeIPA is a centralized management solution for Users and Computers.
Built on Open Standards and open source software, IPA allows you to
securely  establish policy for access to the resources in your
organization.



FreeIPA is a centralized identity management and authentication solution
built on open standards leveraging proven technologies. It is a
authentication and identity hub with focus towards the needs of the
Linux/Unix clients.

FreeIPA is a scalable centralized identity management framework.
It is built on open standards that provide authentication and authorization 
with a focus towards the needs of the Linux/Unix clients .

I suspect term "Identity management Framework"   might be too general to 
orient people not already thinking "Users and Computers"


The term Scalable is an unnecessary buzzword.  Can we cut it down to this?

"FreeIPA is a centralized authentication and authorization management 
framework, built on open standards, with a focus towards the needs of 
Linux and Unix clients."




Bingo!


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Scalable authorization is a big one that has yet to be properly solved in the 
Linux Community for a central directory.
It should be captured in our description.


I challenge you to come up with a better one.

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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 04/13/2011 04:23 PM, JR Aquino wrote:
> On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>
>> On 04/13/2011 11:34 AM, Adam Young wrote:
>>> The FreeIPA.org Landing page needs a better description of the
>>> project.  Can anyone suggest a One-Three line description that orients
>>> people to FreeIPA, assuming they know little/nothing about the
>>> project?  Exl;ainig that it integrates Kerbers an LDAp is the second
>>> step, but it really is an implementation detail.
>>>
>>> I typacilly tell people that we do for Linux systems what Active
>>> Directory does for Windows systems.  This explanation works for people
>>> familiar with AD, and then we can talk about how IPA is built on open
>>> source code and open standards.
>>>
>>>
>>> The closest we have4 right now is
>>>
>>> "FreeIPA is an integrated security information management solution
>>> ..."  this is a good start, but is a little generic.
>>>
>>> I'll throw this out as a strawman:
>>>
>>> FreeIPA is a centralized management solution for Users and Computers. 
>>> Built on Open Standards and open source software, IPA allows you to
>>> securely  establish policy for access to the resources in your
>>> organization.
>>>
>>>
>> FreeIPA is a centralized identity management and authentication solution
>> built on open standards leveraging proven technologies. It is a
>> authentication and identity hub with focus towards the needs of the
>> Linux/Unix clients.
> FreeIPA is a scalable centralized identity management framework.
> It is built on open standards that provide authentication and authorization 
> with a focus towards the needs of the Linux/Unix clients .
>

Bingo!

> ---
> Scalable authorization is a big one that has yet to be properly solved in the 
> Linux Community for a central directory.
> It should be captured in our description. 
>
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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread JR Aquino
On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:

> On 04/13/2011 11:34 AM, Adam Young wrote:
>> The FreeIPA.org Landing page needs a better description of the
>> project.  Can anyone suggest a One-Three line description that orients
>> people to FreeIPA, assuming they know little/nothing about the
>> project?  Exl;ainig that it integrates Kerbers an LDAp is the second
>> step, but it really is an implementation detail.
>> 
>> I typacilly tell people that we do for Linux systems what Active
>> Directory does for Windows systems.  This explanation works for people
>> familiar with AD, and then we can talk about how IPA is built on open
>> source code and open standards.
>> 
>> 
>> The closest we have4 right now is
>> 
>> "FreeIPA is an integrated security information management solution
>> ..."  this is a good start, but is a little generic.
>> 
>> I'll throw this out as a strawman:
>> 
>> FreeIPA is a centralized management solution for Users and Computers. 
>> Built on Open Standards and open source software, IPA allows you to
>> securely  establish policy for access to the resources in your
>> organization.
>> 
>> 
> 
> FreeIPA is a centralized identity management and authentication solution
> built on open standards leveraging proven technologies. It is a
> authentication and identity hub with focus towards the needs of the
> Linux/Unix clients.

FreeIPA is a scalable centralized identity management framework.
It is built on open standards that provide authentication and authorization 
with a focus towards the needs of the Linux/Unix clients .


---
Scalable authorization is a big one that has yet to be properly solved in the 
Linux Community for a central directory.
It should be captured in our description. 

> 
>> 
>> I challenge you to come up with a better one.
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> 
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Re: [Freeipa-devel] About FreeIPA Blurb

2011-04-13 Thread Dmitri Pal
On 04/13/2011 11:34 AM, Adam Young wrote:
> The FreeIPA.org Landing page needs a better description of the
> project.  Can anyone suggest a One-Three line description that orients
> people to FreeIPA, assuming they know little/nothing about the
> project?  Exl;ainig that it integrates Kerbers an LDAp is the second
> step, but it really is an implementation detail.
>
> I typacilly tell people that we do for Linux systems what Active
> Directory does for Windows systems.  This explanation works for people
> familiar with AD, and then we can talk about how IPA is built on open
> source code and open standards.
>
>
> The closest we have4 right now is
>
> "FreeIPA is an integrated security information management solution
> ..."  this is a good start, but is a little generic.
>
> I'll throw this out as a strawman:
>
> FreeIPA is a centralized management solution for Users and Computers. 
> Built on Open Standards and open source software, IPA allows you to
> securely  establish policy for access to the resources in your
> organization.
>
>

FreeIPA is a centralized identity management and authentication solution
built on open standards leveraging proven technologies. It is a
authentication and identity hub with focus towards the needs of the
Linux/Unix clients.

>
> I challenge you to come up with a better one.
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