Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, Alternatively the 'smart server-end' could just send an Access-Accept :) ah..but then things get logged and you have a session...and most likely then a local address at the visited site and you'll then have to use a VPN etc. with the nefarious way, all traffic is transmitted via the home

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
# # Make Reply-Message RFC3748 2.6.5 compliant # * # # Make Reply-Message RFC3579 2.6.5 compliant # Odd that the mime encoded GPG sig validates ok, but the in-line one doesn't... I wonder what's going on there. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread Alan DeKok
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote: This isn't actually mandated anywhere though is it? This is just random vendor specific behaviour ? IIRC, there's a suggestion to do this, but the actual cut-off number is vendor-specific. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, IIRC, there's a suggestion to do this, but the actual cut-off number is vendor-specific. ..and i guess this cutoff is reported as an EAP failure and therefore kit configured to block/deny access will mean the eg the 3rd tunnel creation will be the last for some time alan - List

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 8/6/09 11:27, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, IIRC, there's a suggestion to do this, but the actual cut-off number is vendor-specific. ..and i guess this cutoff is reported as an EAP failure and therefore kit configured to block/deny access will mean the eg the 3rd tunnel creation

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread Alan DeKok
a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: could reply messages be used with some smart server-end code to provide a data communication channel? ie user A has code that attempts to use EAP with special username coding...the remote server is designed to throw responses in EAP messages...which the modified

Re: Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread David Mitton
A couple comments on this thread... The problem with including Reply message text in EAP is that the Reply attribute comes in the Accept or Reject message, which will be carrying the EAP Success or Fail. EAP Success/Faillike a Reject doesn't carry attributes, so a Reply would have to be turned

Re: Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
hi, ome useful information...however, people will be far more likely to read your email if you send it as plain text rather than HTML. alan - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 8/6/09 13:26, David Mitton wrote: A couple comments on this thread... The problem with including Reply message text in EAP is that the Reply attribute comes in the Accept or Reject message, which will be carrying the EAP Success or Fail. EAP Success/Fail like a Reject doesn't carry

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-08 Thread Alexander Clouter
Arran Cudbard-Bell a.cudbard-b...@sussex.ac.uk wrote: On 8/6/09 13:26, David Mitton wrote: A couple comments on this thread... The problem with including Reply message text in EAP is that the Reply attribute comes in the Accept or Reject message, which will be carrying the EAP Success or

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, on the client can then extract? this could tunnel traffic through an 802.1X restricted network? in fact, is the inner EAP traffic limited at all? once the authentication outer layer is started i should be able to just keep throwing data back/forward through that tube? Wait are you

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread Alexander Clouter
Arran Cudbard-Bell a.cudbard-b...@sussex.ac.uk wrote: Alexander Clouter wrote: a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: No one in London wants to go to Sussex though and from my logs it does not look like anyway from Sussex wants to go to London either ;) If someone gives me something better to use

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
Hi, on the client can then extract? this could tunnel traffic through an 802.1X restricted network? in fact, is the inner EAP traffic limited at all? once the authentication outer layer is started i should be able to just keep throwing data back/forward through that tube? Wait are

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
Alexander Clouter wrote: Arran Cudbard-Bell a.cudbard-b...@sussex.ac.uk wrote: Alexander Clouter wrote: a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: No one in London wants to go to Sussex though and from my logs it does not look like anyway from Sussex wants to go to London either ;) If

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread Alexander Clouter
Arran Cudbard-Bell a.cudbard-b...@sussex.ac.uk wrote: ... hmm that's pretty standard behaviour. We don't require FQUNs either. Though I have no idea why you still insist on using user files for policies. There's this new fangled policy language you know :P We *demand* it as otherwise

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread Alan DeKok
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote: There's no reason why you couldn't tunnel IPv4 so long as the packets had a valid EAP header prepended to them. Send your EAP start, send the identity response... then you can pretty much do whatever you like, so long as it has a valid EAP header and the end server is

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-07 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
Alan DeKok wrote: Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote: There's no reason why you couldn't tunnel IPv4 so long as the packets had a valid EAP header prepended to them. Send your EAP start, send the identity response... then you can pretty much do whatever you like, so long as it has a valid EAP

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-06 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, No one in London wants to go to Sussex though and from my logs it does not look like anyway from Sussex wants to go to London either ;) If someone gives me something better to use in my RADIUS packets then I'm game. Meanwhile I keep meaning to glue 'exec' and 'fortune' together and

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-06 Thread Alexander Clouter
a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: No one in London wants to go to Sussex though and from my logs it does not look like anyway from Sussex wants to go to London either ;) If someone gives me something better to use in my RADIUS packets then I'm game. Meanwhile I keep meaning to glue 'exec'

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-06 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, No one in London wants to go to Sussex though and from my logs it does not look like anyway from Sussex wants to go to London either ;) If someone gives me something better to use in my RADIUS packets then I'm

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-06 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Clouter wrote: a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: No one in London wants to go to Sussex though and from my logs it does not look like anyway from Sussex wants to go to London either ;) If someone gives me something better to use in my

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
Hi Sergio, Is possible that Reply-message can be seen from laptops running the supplicant? Not with EAP no. You can use EAP-Notification packets, but very few supplicants display the contents to the user, and the server doesn't support their generation. Arran -- Arran Cudbard-Bell

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, Hi Sergio, Is possible that Reply-message can be seen from laptops running the supplicant? Not with EAP no. You can use EAP-Notification packets, but very few supplicants display the contents to the user, and the server doesn't support their generation. which is why rather useful

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Sergio Belkin
2009/6/5 a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk: Hi, Hi Sergio, Is possible that Reply-message can be seen from laptops running the supplicant? Not with EAP no. You can use EAP-Notification packets, but very few supplicants display the contents to the user, and the server doesn't support their

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, Does file attrs.access_reject has to with you are talking about? in a way - that file lists the attributes that are allowed to pass after an access reject - you still have to set eg the Reply-Message *or some other VSA* to let the remote site know alan - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe?

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 5/6/09 15:21, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, Hi Sergio, Is possible that Reply-message can be seen from laptops running the supplicant? Not with EAP no. You can use EAP-Notification packets, but very few supplicants display the contents to the user, and the server doesn't support

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Sergio Belkin
2009/6/5 a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk: Hi, Does file attrs.access_reject has to with you are talking about? in a way - that file lists the attributes that are allowed to pass after an access reject - you still have to set eg the Reply-Message *or some other VSA* to let the remote site know

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 5/6/09 16:18, Sergio Belkin wrote: 2009/6/5a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk: Hi, Does file attrs.access_reject has to with you are talking about? in a way - that file lists the attributes that are allowed to pass after an access reject - you still have to set eg the Reply-Message *or some other

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, No they can't. Reply-Messages are prohibited in packets containing EAP-Message attributes. really? well...I guess if you believe in RFC 3579 and hope that everyone read section 2.2 of that - invalid packet discussion then you'd hope so... however, I see tonnes of packets proxied through

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
On 5/6/09 19:10, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, No they can't. Reply-Messages are prohibited in packets containing EAP-Message attributes. really? well...I guess if you believe in RFC 3579 and hope that everyone read section 2.2 of that - invalid packet discussion then you'd hope so...

Re: Reply-message and supplicant

2009-06-05 Thread Alexander Clouter
Arran Cudbard-Bell a.cudbard-b...@sussex.ac.uk wrote: On 5/6/09 19:10, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: Hi, No they can't. Reply-Messages are prohibited in packets containing EAP-Message attributes. really? well...I guess if you believe in RFC 3579 and hope that everyone read section 2.2 of