On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:30:54AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
> Matthew Newton wrote:
> >On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 09:52:14PM +0200, Martin Kraus wrote:
> >> well looking at man wpa_supplicant I can see
> >>
> >> EAP-PEAP/TLS
> >
> >I think that should be PEAP/EAP-TLS. Otherwise I'm not sure what
>
Phil Mayers wrote:
> PEAP/MSCHAP is *always* PEAP/EAP-MSCHAPv2 IIRC. Unlike TTLS there's no
> "bare" MSCHAP variant, because there's no spec for how to derive the
> MSCHAP challenge from the TLS master secret.
FWIW: PEAP is TLS + inner EAP. That's why there's no PAP / CHAP /
MS-CHAP inside the
On 22/08/13 10:54, Alan Buxey wrote:
TLS in PEAP. Yes I've seen it. And EAP-MSCHAPV2 in PEAP
PEAP/MSCHAP is *always* PEAP/EAP-MSCHAPv2 IIRC. Unlike TTLS there's no
"bare" MSCHAP variant, because there's no spec for how to derive the
MSCHAP challenge from the TLS master secret.
The EAP meth
TLS in PEAP. Yes I've seen it. And EAP-MSCHAPV2 in PEAP
alan
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Matthew Newton wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 09:52:14PM +0200, Martin Kraus wrote:
>> well looking at man wpa_supplicant I can see
>>
>> EAP-PEAP/TLS
>
>I think that should be PEAP/EAP-TLS. Otherwise I'm not sure what
>it's talking about.
>
Huh, and I thought MS-PEAP specified only soh and msch
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 01:28:08PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 01:17:02PM +0200, Martin Kraus wrote:
> > I managed to get EAP-TTLS/TLS working but EAP-PEAP/TLS fails after the outer
> > TLS tunnel is established:
>
> On the assumption that your certificates are OK...
>
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:45:11PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote:
> If that's all you're doing, forget about PEAP and just go for
> straight EAP-TLS. All PEAP really gives you on top is the SoH
> support, and may cause problems with other non-Windows clients.
> EAP-TLS should work on more devices.
I
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 09:52:14PM +0200, Martin Kraus wrote:
> well looking at man wpa_supplicant I can see
>
> EAP-PEAP/TLS
I think that should be PEAP/EAP-TLS. Otherwise I'm not sure what
it's talking about.
> also from my google searches it might be possible that windows supports
> PEAP/TLS
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 01:13:57PM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote:
> On 21/08/2013 12:17, Martin Kraus wrote:
> >Hi.
> >I managed to get EAP-TTLS/TLS working but EAP-PEAP/TLS fails after the outer
>
> Is this really what you mean? TTLS outer and TLS inner, versus PEAP
> outer and TLS inner?
>
> Because
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 01:17:02PM +0200, Martin Kraus wrote:
> I managed to get EAP-TTLS/TLS working but EAP-PEAP/TLS fails after the outer
> TLS tunnel is established:
On the assumption that your certificates are OK...
Have you updated the fragment_size so that the outer is larger
than the inne
On 21/08/2013 12:17, Martin Kraus wrote:
Hi.
I managed to get EAP-TTLS/TLS working but EAP-PEAP/TLS fails after the outer
Is this really what you mean? TTLS outer and TLS inner, versus PEAP
outer and TLS inner?
Because the latter is unlikely to work; it's not a supported combo per
the PEAP
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On Behalf Of Fajar A. Nugraha
> Sent: November-22-12 4:56 PM
> To: FreeRadius users mailing list
&
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Dominick Rivard wrote:
> I also want to let you know that it has been replaced by libiodbc2-dev but
No, it hasn't.
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/unixodbc-dev
http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/unixodbc-dev
iodbc is another different package.
> then you have
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On Behalf Of Fajar A. Nugraha
Sent: November-13-12 9:58 PM
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
Subject: Re: Debian build the freeradius package with uni
Thanks Matt, Phil,
I'Ve been able to load the default config files. Now I just need to
configure the capabilities I need. :)
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Cheers
Dg
On 21/11/2012 15:57, "Matt Zagrabelny" wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:18 AM, David Gethings
>wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It appears that the Debian pac
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:18 AM, David Gethings wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It appears that the Debian package for freeradius 2.1.10 does not install
> the configuration files. At least that is what is happening on my system. As
> I try to resolve this is it possible to get a copy of the config files fro
That's where I have been looking. ;)
I'Ve been checking the deb lists files to see where all the config files
should go and then searching there. While the directories are created the
files are not. And I am doing this as root. ;)
It is a weird problem. Just want to know if I can get the default
On 21/11/12 15:18, David Gethings wrote:
Hi All,
It appears that the Debian package for freeradius 2.1.10 does not
install the configuration files. At least that is what is happening on
my system. As I try to resolve this is it possible to get a copy of the
config files from some other location?
On 21 Nov 2012, at 15:18, David Gethings wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It appears that the Debian package for freeradius 2.1.10 does not install the
> configuration files. At least that is what is happening on my system. As I
> try to resolve this is it possible to get a copy of the config files from
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Dominick Rivard wrote:
> Here is what I am trying to achieve, we want to install freeradius using a
> Microsoft SQL backend. I read on the internet that we need to achieve this
> goal using the unixodbc driver.
That's not the only way.
unixodbc and iodbc are (mos
Dmitry Korzhevin wrote:
> Can you please advice good howto/guide to configure l2tp with radius
> server?
Read the documentation for the l2tp server to see which attributes it
needs. Then, configure that.
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Adrien Demarez wrote:
Please start a new thread for new topics, rather than using an old thread.
And don't CC me on messages to the list. In case you hadn't noticed,
I *do* read the list. Receiving multiple messages is annoying.
> Here, the "WiMAX-IP-Technology = 0x06" (but it could be any
Dear all,
I have an issue with the new (development/git) version of the TLV parsing
(nested TLVs for WiMAX) : is there a clean way to end a container TLV ?
Here is my issue : I have to insert several WiMAX-Packet-Flow-Descriptor TLVs
(each containing a WiMAX-Packet-Flow-Id and a WiMAX-Service-Pr
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Just noticed:
...
> Add OpenSSL license exception
>
> commit 5ed6809aad46a999db022d9a0be417178b93dff6
> Author: Alan T. DeKok
> Date: Mon Dec 21 10:49:50 2009 +0100
>
> Synced with upstream debian
>
>
>
> Thanks!
More to come. :)
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Just noticed:
commit 48674ba26a39620448723f5852aa30a899d515ac
Author: Alan T. DeKok
Date: Mon Dec 21 12:07:08 2009 +0100
Add OpenSSL license exception
commit 5ed6809aad46a999db022d9a0be417178b93dff6
Author: Alan T. DeKok
Date: Mon Dec 21 10:49:50 2009 +0100
Synced with upstream de
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Alan DeKok posted this very promising report of the re-licensing work he
> had been doing in January:
> http://lists.cistron.nl/pipermail/freeradius-devel/2009-January/012726.html
I've contacted a number of people. No one has objected.
> If I understand Alan's post correctl
Thanks. Got is resolve.
By the way this version of freeradius is 2.1.4 or 2.1.5? A bit confuse here.
From: Marinko Tarlac
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:20:08 PM
Subject: Re: Debian lenny with freeradius 2.1.4/2.1.5 sql
Similar problem here... $INCLUDE sql.conf was commented in modules section
Removing # was the solution. By default, this was ok in older versions .
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:42 AM, piston wrote:
>
> IBM x3550 server install Debian lenny.
>
> Download freeradius from
> ftp://ftp.freeradius.o
Oh,
ok. Tks.
Roberto
Alan DeKok wrote:
rgreiner wrote:
I've just downloaded the new 2.0.3, and when I tried to generate the
debian packages, I got the following error:
Lab:~/freeradius-server-2.0.3# dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc
parsechangelog/debian: error: found start of entry where expected
rgreiner wrote:
> I've just downloaded the new 2.0.3, and when I tried to generate the
> debian packages, I got the following error:
>
> Lab:~/freeradius-server-2.0.3# dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc
> parsechangelog/debian: error: found start of entry where expected more
> change data or trailer, at fil
Zitat von Tas Dionisakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello All,
>
> I just compiled radius and tried to create the deb packages using the
> method mentioned on the freeradius wiki.
>
> When the process finishes the deb packages are version 1.1.3, is there a
> way of correcting this as apt gets confused?
Scott Hughes wrote:
> rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory radiusd.conf[9]:
> eap: Module instantiation failed
Get a source tarball from www.freeradius.org and manually build
a Debian package as explained in the FAQ.
ht
Hi,
> When I install Freeradius (after installing OpenSSL) I get this message when
> starting Freeradius:
you need to make sure you have openssl-devel package also installed. JUST
having openssl is not enough (that only supplies the user tools and libraries)
alan
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 03:36:52PM -0500, Scott Hughes wrote:
>
> Is there a HOWTO for example on how a person can do what I am trying
> to do?
Have you tried downloading the source and running dpkg-buildpackage?
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George Chelidze wrote:
versions. Can I make some tests to narrow down the problem, or some
other actions.
Best Regards,
George
I suppose you could add some debug code to where you believe the calls
to waitpid should be/are
The way I read it, without threads it should be in
src/main/
Alan DeKok wrote:
George Chelidze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Zombies add up even when I recompile without --without-threads option.
That sounds like a serious problem. Looking at the source, I don't
see why, though.
If I understood things correctly, if I compile radius without threads
George Chelidze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zombies add up even when I recompile without --without-threads option.
That sounds like a serious problem. Looking at the source, I don't
see why, though.
> If I understood things correctly, if I compile radius without threads
> support reap_childr
Rashad Rustamoff wrote:
as soon as I send accounting stop packet to radius, test.pl executes and
becomes a zombie. (I tried bash script, c program with the same result.)
3890 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/local/freeradius/sbin/radiusd
3893 ?Z 0:00 \_ [test.pl]
As far as I know, this
> as soon as I send accounting stop packet to radius, test.pl executes and
> becomes a zombie. (I tried bash script, c program with the same result.)
>
> 3890 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/local/freeradius/sbin/radiusd
> 3893 ?Z 0:00 \_ [test.pl]
>
> As far as I know, this should have
Bjørn Mork wrote:
George Chelidze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
as soon as I send accounting stop packet to radius, test.pl executes and
becomes a zombie. (I tried bash script, c program with the same result.)
3890 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/local/freeradius/sbin/radiusd
3893 ?Z 0:
George Chelidze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> as soon as I send accounting stop packet to radius, test.pl executes and
> becomes a zombie. (I tried bash script, c program with the same result.)
>
> 3890 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/local/freeradius/sbin/radiusd
> 3893 ?Z 0:00 \_ [tes
FreeRadius users mailing list on
August 16, 2005 at 18:18 -0800 wrote:
>
>Thanks Kris!
>
>Everything appeared to compile, install and run without any errors.
>
>If you have any tips or good links for up to date information on how
>to set freeradius up to talk to a Cisco WAP I could use the help.
Cian Phillips wrote:
If you have any tips or good links for up to date information on how
to set freeradius up to talk to a Cisco WAP I could use the help.
I have a howto on LDAP and FreeRADIUS at
http://vuksan.com/linux/dot1x/802-1x-LDAP.html
I have successfully used it for WPA with Links
On Aug 16, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Kris Benson wrote:
FreeRadius users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
August 15, 2005 at 23:40 -0800 wrote:
rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
I have googled this and found some message
FreeRadius users mailing list on
August 15, 2005 at 23:40 -0800 wrote:
>rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open
>shared object file: No such file or directory
>
>I have googled this and found some messages that suggest compiling
>from source and using the --shared-dis
Zitat von Cian Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Greetings.
>
> I'm trying to get a Debian (stable) box set up to authenticate users
> for our Cisco Wireless Control Software via LDAP. I have tried the
> Debian package and can get LDAP running easily. When I try to get the
> eap/tls stuff working it
"Kris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking I'd save you the trouble of wading through all that... but
> since you asked. :-)
Ok...
> modcall: entering group authorize for request 2
> modcall[authorize]: module "preprocess" returns ok for request 2
> modcall[authorize]: module
>>"Kris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I have self-compiled the EAP module on Debian due to the binary
>>> distribution restrictions, and the error I'm getting is:
>>>
>>> module "eap" returns noop for request [number]
>>
>> And what does the *rest* of the debug output say?
>>
>Hi Alan,
>
>"Kris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have self-compiled the EAP module on Debian due to the binary
>> distribution restrictions, and the error I'm getting is:
>>
>> module "eap" returns noop for request [number]
>
> And what does the *rest* of the debug output say?
>
Hi Alan,
I was thi
"Kris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have self-compiled the EAP module on Debian due to the binary
> distribution restrictions, and the error I'm getting is:
>
> module "eap" returns noop for request [number]
And what does the *rest* of the debug output say?
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On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 03:21:17PM +0200, Michael Langer wrote:
> HI,
> you have done it at weekend? Today i try apt-upgrade and nothing has
> changed.
> The current Version is 1.0.2 in sarge, isn't it?
Sorry, I didn't do the update until Monday, and my sponsor picked a
problem with it, so I've ju
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hampson) wrote:
> If you're working from the version in the Debian archive, I'll make an
> upload of 1.0.3 to address this by the weekend. If you're working from
> the release on the website, you'll have to grab the release_1_0 tree
> from CVS once I fix this.
Could you a
Michael Langer wrote:
> i read some HowTo's for installing FreeRadius/PEAP and they have used the
> CA.all script to create the certificats. But i can't find this script after
> installing FreeRadius deb version 1.0.2 on my PC. I have to install other
> packets ? Openssl is already installed. (Aft
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 03:09:20PM +0200, Michael Langer wrote:
> Hi @all,
> i read some HowTo's for installing FreeRadius/PEAP and they have used the
> CA.all script to create the certificats. But i can't find this script after
> installing FreeRadius deb version 1.0.2 on my PC. I have to install
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:30:03AM +0100, pascal wrote:
> Hi,
> rlm_eap: Loaded and initialized type md5
> rlm_eap: Loaded and initialized type leap
> gtc: challenge = "Password: "
> gtc: auth_type = "PAP"
> rlm_eap: Loaded and initialized type gtc
> rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 06:47:38AM +0100, Sven Juergensen wrote:
> the start/stop script of the debian freeradius package is faulty
> as well. let me know if you need a modified script and i'll mail it
> to you.
Alternatively, file a bug report and then everyone can benefit from
a fix to whatever'
Hi Lincoln,
How did you solve this problem?
rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
radiusd.conf[9]: eap: Module instantiation failed.
It seems I have the same problem.
There was a buglisting for this problem, but I don't know
the start/stop script of the debian freeradius package is faulty
as well. let me know if you need a modified script and i'll mail it
to you.
cheers,
sven
Lincoln Smith wrote:
Err as usual found the solution shortly after posting...
Lincoln Smith wrote:
Hi there
Module: Loaded eap
rlm_eap: Failed to
Err as usual found the solution shortly after posting...
Lincoln Smith wrote:
Hi there
Module: Loaded eap
rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
radiusd.conf[9]: eap: Module instantiation failed.
Is it the case that PEAP/TLS
Paul Hampson wrote:
Check you've got libssl-dev installed. It is quite
possibly silently not building rlm_eap_tls due to
lack of OpenSSL or wrongly-version openSSL, the same
thing that'd cause rlm_x99_token to not build.
that did it, thanks a bunch paul and alan.
all the best and merry xmas,
sven
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Sven Juergensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #0 0x400600df in lt_dlsym (handle=0x8152ac8, symbol=0xbfffe8f0 "rlm_eap_tls")
> at ltdl.c:3330
> 3330 lensym = LT_STRLEN (symbol) + LT_STRLEN (handle->loader->sym_prefix)
> (gdb) bt
It's another libtool stupidity. Delete the previous insta
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 03:47:31AM +0100, Sven Juergensen wrote:
> and again,
> http://bugs.freeradius.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98
> configuring with --disable-shared && make halts
> at the message of my first email, something with
> the rlm_x99_token.
> some strace output:
>
> [..]
[..]
> /usr/loca
and again,
http://bugs.freeradius.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98
configuring with --disable-shared && make halts
at the message of my first email, something with
the rlm_x99_token.
some strace output:
[..]
write(1, " gtc: challenge = \"Password: \"\n", 31 gtc: challenge = "Password: "
) = 31
time(NULL)
thanks alan,
here goes the backtrace then:
clt173:/install/freeradius-1.0.1# gdb /usr/local/sbin/radiusd core
GNU gdb 6.1-debian
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies o
Sven Juergensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> after some research i found out that someone fixed this with the
>
> --without-rlm_x99_token
That should be fixed, but the maintainer of the module hasn't been
actively involved in the project for a while.
> it compiles but gives me a segfault onc
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i want to use securid with freeradius on my debian.
> I have choosen and installed the pam_securid.so Module from RSA und set
> up pam and freeradius.
PAM may have memory leaks. If at all possible, I would suggest
using a command-line tool from SecurID to do the aut
On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 01:31:06PM +1000, Tech wrote:
> Does anybody have a modified .rules file for building a 1.0.1 .deb with
> Postgres support? Thanks in advance.
You'll find one in the freeradius 1.0.1 release on the FreeRADIUS
website.
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:30:10AM -0700, Aime wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> Now i progressed a little bit compiling freeradius on
> Woody.
>
> The problem I am having now is about mysql .
> What library must be in place .
libmysqlclient-dev I think... The one below looks
right,.. What's
Thanks for the suggestion.
Now i progressed a little bit compiling freeradius on
Woody.
The problem I am having now is about mysql .
What library must be in place .
This is what i have :
pebble:~# dpkg -l | grep mysql
ii libdbd-mysql-p 1.2216-2 mySQL database
interface for Perl
ii libmy
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Aime wrote:
> OK. I did what you suggested but now I have problem
> with OpenSSL. It cannot find Openssl. But it is ther ,
> I know.
> I just compiled Openssl on the machine.
Do you also have the OpenSSL package? I'd suggest not
building a local copy, but
OK. I did what you suggested but now I have problem
with OpenSSL. It cannot find Openssl. But it is ther ,
I know.
I just compiled Openssl on the machine.
How can I use dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b -rfakeroot
but forcing configure to use parameter
--with-openssl-includes=/usr/local/openssl/includ
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 05:40:02AM -0700, Aime wrote:
> Hello Marcus,
>
> Please can you layout here the steps you did to get
> freeradius compiled on Woody.
>
> I tried what you said in your mail (by commenting
> dh_installpam --name=radiusd ), but still get
> dependency problems about libsasl
Hello Marcus,
Please can you layout here the steps you did to get
freeradius compiled on Woody.
I tried what you said in your mail (by commenting
dh_installpam --name=radiusd ), but still get
dependency problems about libsasl2-dev and debhelper.
Did you do :
./configure
make
make install
OR
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 10:29:28PM -0700, Petersen, Kirsten - NET wrote:
> Are there any plans to have a debian package for version 1.0.0 soon?
There's an unofficial one someone built, the URL was on the mailing list
earlier, and the official (DFSG-free) one is currently with my sponsor.
However,
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 09:32:06AM +0200, Markus Krause wrote:
> i commented out the line and removed the dependency entry for debhelper in
> debian/control, now i got the following error after running
> "dpkg-buildpackage":
> -8<-
> [snip]
[snip]
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz
> which lib
i commented out the line and removed the dependency entry for debhelper in
debian/control, now i got the following error after running
"dpkg-buildpackage":
-8<-
[snip]
Making dynamic in rlm_sql_mysql...
make[11]: Entering directory
`/root/src/freeradius-1.0.0/src/modules/rlm_sql/drivers/rlm
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 09:24:58AM +0200, Michael Markstaller wrote:
> I have some freeradius (0.9.3 to 1.0.0-pre3) using MySQL running fine
> on woody (but without running ldap & eap, AFAIK there're unmet dependencies).
> just build the package from the source (one line needs to be commented out,
, 2004 4:03 PM
To: Aime
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: debian packages for download
no unfortunately not, on woody there are too many "old" version of programs and
libs lying aroung (i.e. libc6, debconf, ...). i was not able to make the
necessary updates/upgrades without changing an awfu
no unfortunately not, on woody there are too many "old" version of programs and
libs lying aroung (i.e. libc6, debconf, ...). i was not able to make the
necessary updates/upgrades without changing an awful lot of packages (ok, i
stopped after about ten required packages because the only accessable
On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Graeme Hinchliffe wrote:
> As the subject suggests. Anyone done a backport of this yet to woody?
I haven't yet. There were some people doing 0.9 backports, dunno if
they'll pick up the prereleases though. I don't intend to do a backport
until we rel
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